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  • Yes, it's 2020 and there's no place for that shit anymore

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  • Sort of -- only get rid of the really bad stuff, leave everything else

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Thread: Direction of the forum -- how should I handle free speech in the 2020s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    lol, tilting your face off that I'm not getting banned, I already agreed to stop using the n-word for you pussies, try to convince Druff to ban me more fag
    I must have missed where you gave up the n-word, I apologize if that's indeed true, but its the fact that the overwhelming bulk of your posts are just calling people slurs without making any point at all, that's kinda why you are board cancer, and repellent to most semi-normal people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    lol, tilting your face off that I'm not getting banned, I already agreed to stop using the n-word for you pussies, try to convince Druff to ban me more fag
    I must have missed where you gave up the n-word, I apologize if that's indeed true, but its the fact that the overwhelming bulk of your posts are just calling people slurs without making any point at all, that's kinda why you are board cancer, and repellent to most semi-normal people.
    sorry you don't like my posts, but there is an ignore function for pussies like you, cry yourself to sleep tonight over a message board, jeez you guys are getting old

     
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    again this just goes to show it was never about the n-word, it was neve about racism, you guys just don't like me and want me gone, pure fascism plain and simple.

    Sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    cry yourself to sleep tonight over a message board, jeez you guys are getting old







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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    cry yourself to sleep tonight over a message board, jeez you guys are getting old






    cry more fag

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post

    I may be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that if you take care of the first part, the trolling/shitposting complaints, you will drastically reduce the 2nd type of complaint, the fighting, n-bomb cesspool part. They are not entirely separate complaints, just different sides of the same coin for the most part.
    The problem is that "taking care" of trolling/shitposting isn't easy, unless I want to remake the forum to being much more restrictive.

    That's not to say I can't clamp down somewhat on the worst offenders, but I'm really more of a believer in setting realistic rules and expectations for everyone, rather than subjectively defining trolling/shitposting on the fly.

    When people ask me at the 2021 WSOP, "Why are you allowing the n-bomb to be freely posted on your site?", the answer of, "Well, I banned dwai for trolling and shitposting, so that's progress, right?" won't exactly cut it.
    'this might be the lunesta talking but i'm legit bothered bu the fact that you deleted my substantive debate points in the coronavirus thread when you never delete anything here

    i think my posts, fps_russia's and limitles's posts were the only ones you've ever deleted

    i'm in a super-elite class of poster there

     
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    that is actually humiliating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    When people ask me at the 2021 WSOP, "Why are you allowing the n-bomb to be freely posted on your site?", the answer of, "Well, I banned dwai for trolling and shitposting, so that's progress, right?" won't exactly cut it.
    We've seen you ban certain links and words before, to other forums most memorably, so why not start with, in one quick script, asterisking out the words that most people would consider the worst? You don't have to ban anyone to do that.

    Everyone still knows what's being posted, you get the credit for disallowing it, people who are put off by it get the same effect as a bleeping in a movie on tv, and there's no situation where any exchange of ideas is harmed in the least. Start with that band-aid, then see if anything else even needs to be done.

    Nobody's gonna try and challenge your free speech card over shit like that. Every community has minimum community standards, this place should have those, too.
    Last edited by Crowe Diddly; 08-16-2020 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    The problem is that "taking care" of trolling/shitposting isn't easy, unless I want to remake the forum to being much more restrictive.

    That's not to say I can't clamp down somewhat on the worst offenders, but I'm really more of a believer in setting realistic rules and expectations for everyone, rather than subjectively defining trolling/shitposting on the fly.

    When people ask me at the 2021 WSOP, "Why are you allowing the n-bomb to be freely posted on your site?", the answer of, "Well, I banned dwai for trolling and shitposting, so that's progress, right?" won't exactly cut it.
    'this might be the lunesta talking but i'm legit bothered bu the fact that you deleted my substantive debate points in the coronavirus thread when you never delete anything here

    i think my posts, fps_russia's and limitles's posts were the only ones you've ever deleted

    i'm in a super-elite class of poster there
    get used to it. if you've ever jay walked don't think that's coming off your record

    limitles' life matters

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    lol @ SrslySirius, what a total stooge, marry the first woman to fuck him kinda guy. he's been exposed in this thread for being the whiney faggot that he is and I'm not getting banned, boy must really be upset.

    Sad!


    lol and now his bot is gonna post, great forum Druff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The problem is that "taking care" of trolling/shitposting isn't easy, unless I want to remake the forum to being much more restrictive.

    That's not to say I can't clamp down somewhat on the worst offenders, but I'm really more of a believer in setting realistic rules and expectations for everyone, rather than subjectively defining trolling/shitposting on the fly.

    When people ask me at the 2021 WSOP, "Why are you allowing the n-bomb to be freely posted on your site?", the answer of, "Well, I banned dwai for trolling and shitposting, so that's progress, right?" won't exactly cut it.

    Do a search for the n-word by post, and skip the first bunch of results from this thread. In recent times, the guy throwing the n-word out there is dwai, followed by people quoting dwai, people responding to dwai, and people quoting rep that dwai gave.

    The rule is easy. It's your forum. Make it simple. You've already made it clear all decisions here are yours, so make that the literal rule. If you deem a poster to be a shitposter who only disrupts things or throws around racist terms to be extra shocking, you will get rid of them, or restrict them in some way.

    You;re already the entire judge/jury of this place. You can do whatever you want. Err on the lenient side, even, but start with the clear-cut racist shitposting.
    “It’s your forum you’re the judge and jury you can do whatever you want...BUT DO WHAT I SAY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post


    Do a search for the n-word by post, and skip the first bunch of results from this thread. In recent times, the guy throwing the n-word out there is dwai, followed by people quoting dwai, people responding to dwai, and people quoting rep that dwai gave.

    The rule is easy. It's your forum. Make it simple. You've already made it clear all decisions here are yours, so make that the literal rule. If you deem a poster to be a shitposter who only disrupts things or throws around racist terms to be extra shocking, you will get rid of them, or restrict them in some way.

    You;re already the entire judge/jury of this place. You can do whatever you want. Err on the lenient side, even, but start with the clear-cut racist shitposting.
    “It’s your forum you’re the judge and jury you can do whatever you want...BUT DO WHAT I SAY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!”
    Pretty sure druff knows I wasn't commanding him to do anything, because I'm not a moron. I was just advocating for what I think he should do. That's what this thread is for. He asks in the thread title "how should I handle free speech in the 2020s?" I give an answer. Druff doesn't ask for advice on how to run his forum very often, so when he does, might as well give him honest answers.

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    I am fine with any advice being given to me in this thread.

    I may not take some (or any) of it, but I am interested in hearing from everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post

    “It’s your forum you’re the judge and jury you can do whatever you want...BUT DO WHAT I SAY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!”
    Pretty sure druff knows I wasn't commanding him to do anything, because I'm not a moron. I was just advocating for what I think he should do. That's what this thread is for. He asks in the thread title "how should I handle free speech in the 2020s?" I give an answer. Druff doesn't ask for advice on how to run his forum very often, so when he does, might as well give him honest answers.
    Just poking fun at your attempts of persuasion. You’ve been pushing pretty hard and repeating yourself a lot about what you want to see happen.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
    Just poking fun at your attempts of persuasion. You’ve been pushing pretty hard and repeating yourself a lot about what you want to see happen.
    Yeah, I can see that, but then again, subtlety doesn't usually work here. And I'm buzzed and stoned. Good time to log off tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    The problem is that "taking care" of trolling/shitposting isn't easy, unless I want to remake the forum to being much more restrictive.

    That's not to say I can't clamp down somewhat on the worst offenders, but I'm really more of a believer in setting realistic rules and expectations for everyone, rather than subjectively defining trolling/shitposting on the fly.

    When people ask me at the 2021 WSOP, "Why are you allowing the n-bomb to be freely posted on your site?", the answer of, "Well, I banned dwai for trolling and shitposting, so that's progress, right?" won't exactly cut it.
    'this might be the lunesta talking but i'm legit bothered bu the fact that you deleted my substantive debate points in the coronavirus thread when you never delete anything here

    i think my posts, fps_russia's and limitles's posts were the only ones you've ever deleted

    i'm in a super-elite class of poster there
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    that is actually humiliating
    To be fair you should have been post restricted for thinking season 8 of GOT was good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post

    I may be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that if you take care of the first part, the trolling/shitposting complaints, you will drastically reduce the 2nd type of complaint, the fighting, n-bomb cesspool part. They are not entirely separate complaints, just different sides of the same coin for the most part.
    The problem is that "taking care" of trolling/shitposting isn't easy, unless I want to remake the forum to being much more restrictive.

    That's not to say I can't clamp down somewhat on the worst offenders, but I'm really more of a believer in setting realistic rules and expectations for everyone, rather than subjectively defining trolling/shitposting on the fly.

    When people ask me at the 2021 WSOP, "Why are you allowing the n-bomb to be freely posted on your site?", the answer of, "Well, I banned dwai for trolling and shitposting, so that's progress, right?" won't exactly cut it.
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    Buckle up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
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    There’s a special place in hell waiting for cunts like Srslysirius, What the fuck does this guy bring to this site?
    I have contributed more to this site than 95% of users, in the form of donations, radio, and god knows how many hours in photoshop and premiere.

    Not sure why you're so enraged that I participated less after being harassed and my job/family being threatened. You miss me?

    Tight life though, keep up the great work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I haven't folded to anyone. I haven't even made any decisions yet.

    BTW, if I were to fold to them, you would be banned, which I'm not planning to do.
    well shit, so no changes then
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    'this might be the lunesta talking but i'm legit bothered bu the fact that you deleted my substantive debate points in the coronavirus thread when you never delete anything here

    i think my posts, fps_russia's and limitles's posts were the only ones you've ever deleted

    i'm in a super-elite class of poster there
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    that is actually humiliating
    To be fair you should have been post restricted for thinking season 8 of GOT was good

    to be fair, the finale totally ruined it for me and i now hated that season

     
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