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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Also remember Micon wasn't running the show behind the scenes. He was a glorified affiliate.

    I'm leaning towards probation and no jail.
    If he had no guilt, after 4 months since the raid, this would have been solved already. In fact he would probably be back in Vegas. Nobody bolts to a 3rd world country unless they have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Also remember Micon wasn't running the show behind the scenes. He was a glorified affiliate.

    I'm leaning towards probation and no jail.
    If he had no guilt, after 4 months since the raid, this would have been solved already. In fact he would probably be back in Vegas. Nobody bolts to a 3rd world country unless they have to.

    Welllllll... gaming kicked in his door and pointed guns in his face. The dude wasnt facing charges when he fled, he was just done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post

    If he had no guilt, after 4 months since the raid, this would have been solved already. In fact he would probably be back in Vegas. Nobody bolts to a 3rd world country unless they have to.

    Welllllll... gaming kicked in his door and pointed guns in his face. The dude wasnt facing charges when he fled, he was just done.
    If he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...

    Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    If he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...
    You really think NVGC kicked down his door without a warrant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    Welllllll... gaming kicked in his door and pointed guns in his face. The dude wasnt facing charges when he fled, he was just done.
    If he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...

    Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.
    Well Micon did want to start SwC 2.0 where he was running the show, so this kickstarted it into high gear.

    Upon moving to Antigua he has since realized that SwC 2.0 is a joke and his one outter failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    Welllllll... gaming kicked in his door and pointed guns in his face. The dude wasnt facing charges when he fled, he was just done.
    If he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...

    Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.

    Im just saying, youre making this sound very black and white. I think we are dealing with nuances, not guilty/innocent.

    He 100% confirmed had existing plans to head to Aruba (that got sidelined by the BTC implosion).

    He is 100% confirmed not innocent of some charges (but was not a kingpin or site owner, he was a marketing tool).

    So really, crystal balling this means you have to measure his place on the spectrum of guilt/culpability against the overarching concerns of Gaming. If they had nailed that gook in the hotel room, Id say Micon better keep some coins for the pay phone and a toothbrush up his ass.
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post

    If he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...

    Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.

    Im just saying, youre making this sound very black and white. I think we are dealing with nuances, not guilty/innocent.

    He 100% confirmed had existing plans to head to Aruba (that got sidelined by the BTC implosion).

    He is 100% confirmed not innocent of some charges (but was not a kingpin or site owner, he was a marketing tool).

    So really, crystal balling this means you have to measure his place on the spectrum of guilt/culpability against the overarching concerns of Gaming. If they had nailed that gook in the hotel room, Id say Micon better keep some coins for the pay phone and a toothbrush up his ass.
    His guilt at the end of the day is walking into Nevada casinos with SWC ads operating a site with no license, what happens is really beyond his control at this point. He is a pawn to the system at this point. If I were betting, I am saying its a year at an honor ranch or house arrest and a fine, and public NV apology and abstinence from gambling while in NV for a period of time.

    I think we can agree, you want to walk into Northern Syria with a Cross and a Bible you are on your own. If you operate a gaming enterprise in Nevada, directly or otherwise, you are on your own.

    Oh well, who cares.

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    Like I said, its not like youre wrong. Very curious to see which way this breaks, naturally.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Like I said, its not like youre wrong. Very curious to see which way this breaks, naturally.
    Agreed. I think he gets some detention, but mild, everyone wins in that scenario and it goes away. State gets some form of jail, Micon gets away from a prison climate he obviously fears.

    I would guess wealth preservation comes into play, i.e. make a deal to stop legal costs from spiraling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    And those are totally valid points. Id not be terribly surprised if Im wrong.

    But when I look at the situation beyond the egos of the Gaming lawyers, I see a bunch of people who should be legit concerned if they keep their jobs. The state needs money and they are fucking up, boldly.
    I hear ya...just like with anything (FIFA, government shit)...follow the money...

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    I'll just leave this right here:

    http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...owtopic=147530

    This "DealerNate" sounds like a really nice and selfless guy.

     
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    its kind of intense to see an entire community come together and put micon on blast as if with one single voice.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    its kind of intense to see an entire community come together and put micon on blast as if with one single voice.
    Quote Originally Posted by KarinaJett View Post
    He's been a little punk kid for the past ten years and the last 3 or 4 years that he's got involved with bitcoin he's just become this arrogant SOB and like I said he deserves everything that is coming to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I'll just leave this right here:

    http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...owtopic=147530

    This "DealerNate" sounds like a really nice and selfless guy.

    Stunned that FCP is still around. I havent seen it mentioned or linked in probably 6 or 7 years. I thought it folded when DN's poker skin folded.

    Is it still DN's site?

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    That "two queens" Full Contact Poker logo was one of my favorite graphics of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Have to wonder if Micon has his lawyers negotiating during WSOP.

    Let's say he somehow is negotiating just house arrest. Can he argue poker is his "livelihood" and still have a crack at the main event?
    Given the choice between hustling Micon out of $100k in legal fees or watching him set it on fire, pretty sure the lawyers will be keeping him away from the tables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Have to wonder if Micon has his lawyers negotiating during WSOP.
    My guess is NO.

    I do not think that Micon has an open ended relationship with Chesnoff & Schonfeld. I am speculating that Micon asked Chesnoff to review his case and his options and to try to negotiate a plea. It appears the results have not been especially compelling for the Chairman. The scope of Micon's relationship with his firm was fixed.

    My hunch is that Micon has logged off from Chesnoff & Schonfeld. He probably feels he doesn't HAVE to do anything for now. He will wait for the turn card, survey the table and then react.

    If you think he has allowed the meter to keep spinning this past month on legal fees then you have a different take on Micon's wealth than I do - and you are wrong. Lol.

    So while Micon may seem fit to just wait and react, unexpectedly I think the catalyst for the next move will be domestic. His wife will tire of living in a third world country or she will experience the type of mood swing all us husbands have experienced where she decides she is just pissed off. She won't even be able to pinpoint her anger. We have all gone through this shit but usually we are on more solid footing than Bryan is right now.

    Somehow Martha's hormones will prompt the next move Micon makes. One of the insights I have learned over the years is that wives are all driven by the whole "nesting" instinct. You give them whatever the fuck they want for the house or where they want to live. This vagabond existence (the simple uncertainty) is gonna cause her to snap eventually.

    I have dismissed the whole "isolated in a third world country" component and realized nothing is preventing Micon's friends and family from visiting him in Antigua. Micon plays the role of host and offers his guests cheap rum & coconuts and spins great stories. Micon is still center stage appearing to live an intriguing life. What a stud, huh?

    Also, nothin is preventing his wife and child from visiting the US. You might have seen her shopping at the Venetian last week.

    It's bad television but for now we are on summer hiatus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Have to wonder if Micon has his lawyers negotiating during WSOP.
    My guess is NO.

    I do not think that Micon has an open ended relationship with Chesnoff & Schonfeld. I am speculating that Micon asked Chesnoff to review his case and his options and to try to negotiate a plea. It appears the results have not been especially compelling for the Chairman. The scope of Micon's relationship with his firm was fixed.

    My hunch is that Micon has logged off from Chesnoff & Schonfeld. He probably feels he doesn't HAVE to do anything for now. He will wait for the turn card, survey the table and then react.

    If you think he has allowed the meter to keep spinning this past month on legal fees then you have a different take on Micon's wealth than I do - and you are wrong. Lol.

    So while Micon may seem fit to just wait and react, unexpectedly I think the catalyst for the next move will be domestic. His wife will tire of living in a third world country or she will experience the type of mood swing all us husbands have experienced where she decides she is just pissed off. She won't even be able to pinpoint her anger. We have all gone through this shit but usually we are on more solid footing than Bryan is right now.

    Somehow Martha's hormones will prompt the next move Micon makes. One of the insights I have learned over the years is that wives are all driven by the whole "nesting" instinct. You give them whatever the fuck they want for the house or where they want to live. This vagabond existence (the simple uncertainty) is gonna cause her to snap eventually.

    I have dismissed the whole "isolated in a third world country" component and realized nothing is preventing Micon's friends and family from visiting him in Antigua. Micon plays the role of host and offers his guests cheap rum & coconuts and spins great stories. Micon is still center stage appearing to live an intriguing life. What a stud, huh?

    Also, nothin is preventing his wife and child from visiting the US. You might have seen her shopping at the Venetian last week.

    It's bad television but for now we are on summer hiatus.
    I disagree. I think that Micon is still with Chesnoff/Schonfeld, partially because he will not post on social media except for the occasional update about gofundme (and even that has stopped).

    I also don't think Chesnoff takes cheap consultation cases (beyond maybe a first phone call). I believe they require you lay down a hefty retainer and then that's the minimum you've bought with them.

    They are probably negotiating on his behalf, though it's possible that things have stalled if the Nevada AG refuses to negotiate while Micon is hiding out.

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    he hasnt been posting on REDDIT either.


    Not posting is HIGHLY unusual for him. Attorney talked some sense into him.



    or, he dead

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