*** Official NFL/ NCAA Betting Discussion Thread

[chinamaniac]

As far as the pushing the lineman thing it came out today that the rule was originally drafted as can't be done from the second level meaning you can't line up behind a guy and straight push him with a head start but they changed it to you can't push at all on defense. Which is fucked up because how many times a game do you see offensive players , lineman especially pushing piles of people to move their RB forward. This is just another bullshit rule to "help protect the shield". In other words they put this in to say they are doing all they can.

That said the rule was clear as day and reported one of the refs warned them a couple of times that they know they do it and they would call it so this falls on the players and the coaches of the patriots. Also the jets picked up on this on film and reported it to the league and the officials which was smart to do.

I don't even know why they tried pushing the guy to block the FG. Folk probably misses a 56 yarder outdoors with a little win 9 times out of 10.

[chinamaniac]

BRUTTTTTTTTAL week for me in the NFl as I went 1-13 but not my worst day record wise ever. I have had 2 sundays go 0-10 + at some points over the past 15 or so years. Fortunately college football was good this week to almost offset everything

For the week

Flat Plays 5-12 ats -8.2 units

Action Point Wagers 4-7 +17.2 Points

Totals for the season

36-40 on straight Plays -7.9 Units
30-20 on action point plays +193.8 points

Total Record
66-60 52.38 %



Fwiw RAS is 49-40 + 6.0 units 55 % and 5-2 on second half plays and each game has beat the closing line by 2 points. Expect more of the same for college hoops as they are the best college sports handicappers in the business.

Will post some plays later

[chinamaniac]

Boise +7.5 Even
UCF -22.5 (action points)
Rutgers -7 (action points)
Rutgers -7
Maryland +14.5
N Ill -30 (action points)
A&M -18 (action points)
Auburn -24 (action points)
Bama -28 (action points)
Washington -24 (action points)
Kansas State -10.5 (action points)
Oregon State +5
Baylor -35 (action points)
Baylor -35
Ohio State -14.5 (action points)

San Fran -16.5 (action points)
Det -3 -115
KC -7 -115 (action points)
KC -7 -115
New Orleans -12 (action points)
Cincy -6.5
Denver -13 (action points)
Over 37 Denver / Wash
Seattle -11 (action points)
Seattle -11

Every Broncos game has gone over this year. Also here is an interesting writeup for the BCS and potential matchups with spreads


The Las Vegas Hotel & Casino SuperBook has updated its odds to win the BCS Championship and its lines for Games of the Year. Alabama and Oregon are 3/2 (Bet $100 to win $150) co-favorites while Florida State (3/1) Ohio State (7/1) and Baylor (7/1) are next in line.

LVH has also posted numbers on upcoming regular-season matchups for each of the five teams mentioned above.

Let’s start with Alabama. The Crimson Tide has just two real challenges remaining on its regular-season slate. LVH has ‘Bama favored by 11 vs. LSU in Tuscaloosa on Nov. 9. Nick Saban’s team must close the regular season on The Plains against Auburn. The Tide is currently a 13-point road ‘chalk’ at AU.

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Oregon has three huge games looming after Saturday’s showdown vs. UCLA in Eugene. LVH has the Ducks favored by 10½ for a Thursday game (11/7) at Stanford. They will be looking to avenge last year’s 17-14 home loss to the Cardinal in overtime.

Oregon is a 22½-point road ‘chalk’ for a Nov. 23 trip to Arizona. Also, the Ducks are 27-point home favorites vs. Oregon St. in their Civil War regular-season finale.

Florida State is favored by 14 vs. Miami on Nov. 2. The Hurricanes are still unbeaten but they suffered a costly injury in Thursday’s non-covering win at North Carolina. Their best WR Phillip Dorsett is out for the next six weeks and won’t be available in Tallahassee.

FSU will close its regular season at The Swamp against a sliding Florida squad that’s dealing with injuries galore. LVH has the Seminoles installed as 13½-point favorites.

After hosting Penn State this weekend, Ohio State should cruise through its next three foes before closing the year at The Big House. The Buckeyes are 4½-point favorites at Michigan.

As for Baylor, it is going to go through a big step up in competition beginning on Nov. 7. That’s when the Bears will take on Oklahoma in Waco on Thursday night. They are currently favored by 10 over the Sooners at LVH.

Art Briles’s team is an 11-point ‘chalk’ for a Nov. 30 game at TCU. Then in its regular-season finale, Baylor is favored by 18 vs. Texas.

Jay Kornegay of LVH has also provided VegasInsider.com with lines for potential matchups in the BCS Championship Game. The book has Alabama listed as a three-point favorite vs. Oregon. The Tide is favored by 6½ for a potential showdown vs. FSU in Pasadena. Also, Saban’s bunch is a 13½-point favorite vs. Ohio State.

Due to its style of play and the fact that Alabama’s defense is the only one considered stout enough to slow its offense, Oregon has the same number as ‘Bama when matched against FSU and a more expensive number if it faces the Buckeyes.Kornegay and LVH have the Ducks favored by 6½ vs. the ‘Noles and 17 versus the Buckeyes.

The line for FSU-Ohio St. is Jimbo Fisher’s team laying 10 points. Urban Meyer won his first five games against FSU during his time at Florida, but he lost in Tallahassee in his final game in that rivalry.

Below are the latest LVH Future Odds to win this year's BCS Championship (1/6/14) from Pasadena, CA.

Alabama 3/2
Oregon 3/2
Florida State 3/1
Ohio State 7/1
Baylor 7/1
Stanford 30/1
Missouri 30/1
Auburn 60/1
Clemson 200/1
LSU 300/1
Fresno State 300/1

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-.../story/1461252

[ShadyJ]

NYG -3.5
under 48.5

Great finish to another good week.

[ShadyJ]

Guys im going to try and get this play for us on Saturday. imo its as close to a lock as you can get besides the wormhole. There biggest play ive ever seen is a 600, and this is a 650. Heres their link and they are 100% legit.

http://www.executivesportsline.com/EX.600.10.21.13.htm

[ShadyJ]

Tb +7

[Charham]

Guys im going to try and get this play for us on Saturday. imo its as close to a lock as you can get besides the wormhole. There biggest play ive ever seen is a 600, and this is a 650. Heres their link and they are 100% legit.

http://www.executivesportsline.com/EX.600.10.21.13.htm

cool thanks. when these services converge or go big like this it is always interesting. i think last week you noted a service convergence, worked out.

[BeerAndPoker]

6pt Teaser (-110):

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +7 (-105) +13
Under 40 Carolina Panthers vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (46)

[simpdog]

6pt Teaser (-110):

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +7 (-105) +13
Under 40 Carolina Panthers vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (46)

Sigh I liked the teaser the other way

Carolina -1 and over 34.

[BCR]

NCAA 46-35-1 nfl 33-40


I'd fade anything I'm betting atm, as I'm burning money the past few weeks

Miami-1/Sd-1 l
Miami -1/Atlanta pk l
Miami -1/Detroit +3.5 l
cleveland/gb under 45.5 w
Miami -1/Balt +8.5 l
SD -1/ Atlanta pk w
Sd-1/ Detroit + 3.5 w
SD-1/Denver -.5 l
Miami -1/Denver -.5l

all teasers except the under obv

den -6.5 l

NCAA 46-35-1 nfl 33-40


I think this is going to be a profitable day. I really like a lot of these games. This is the heaviest I have bet so far this year. If I'm seeing these wrong, it's going to sting a bit. No particular order, just by start time.

central florida -24
georgia tech -10.5
navy +4.5
navy +170 ml
buffalo -2
texas tech +6
utah+4.5
utah+170 ml
nevada-6.5
arizona -13
ohio sate -16
stanford/oregon over 57

[ShadyJ]

Early service play
Iowa-4

[Serial Fail]

Houston/Rutgers OVER 61
Oklahoma State -14
Nebraska ML
Louisville -20
Clemson -17
Texas Tech +7
Utah +5
Baylor/Kansas OVER 66
Arizona -13

[Bootsy Collins]

USC -5
Stanford - 4 1/2
Missouri -3

[ShadyJ]

Guys im going to try and get this play for us on Saturday. imo its as close to a lock as you can get besides the wormhole. There biggest play ive ever seen is a 600, and this is a 650. Heres their link and they are 100% legit.

http://www.executivesportsline.com/EX.600.10.21.13.htm

Oklahoma -6.5

Huge play obv

[ShadyJ]

Guys im going to try and get this play for us on Saturday. imo its as close to a lock as you can get besides the wormhole. There biggest play ive ever seen is a 600, and this is a 650. Heres their link and they are 100% legit.

http://www.executivesportsline.com/EX.600.10.21.13.htm

Oklahoma -6.5

Huge play obv

Just as huge Tulsa-3

[JimmyG_415]

Guys im going to try and get this play for us on Saturday. imo its as close to a lock as you can get besides the wormhole. There biggest play ive ever seen is a 600, and this is a 650. Heres their link and they are 100% legit.

http://www.executivesportsline.com/EX.600.10.21.13.htm

Oklahoma -6.5

Huge play obv

@Gilmo574 just posted this, too.

Oklahoma has only lost 4 straight ATS once L16 years / Oklahoma is 8-0 SU/6-1-1 ATS when avoiding 4 straight ATS losses L16 years

[BeerAndPoker]

Oklahoma -6.5

Huge play obv

Just as huge Tulsa-3

Some books have shut off action at the moment for this game at least it's like that on Bovada right now.

[ShadyJ]

Early service play
Iowa-4

Lucky as fuck but ill take it

[ShadyJ]

Just as huge Tulsa-3

Some books have shut off action at the moment for this game at least it's like that on Bovada right now.

I know not sure whats going on I wanted to parlay them both huge

[ShadyJ]

Oklahoma -6.5

Huge play obv

@Gilmo574 just posted this, too.

Oklahoma has only lost 4 straight ATS once L16 years / Oklahoma is 8-0 SU/6-1-1 ATS when avoiding 4 straight ATS losses L16 years

These kind of trends are meaningless imo. I guarantee you if you look hard enough you can find great trends for every team in every game.