jsearles and Chinamaniac debate about the value of his WSOP pieces

[RealTalk]

Yes, I ruled against you, but I'm also willing to possibly lighten your burden (although it would probably come with non-monetary stipulations agreed to by Vegas). In all honesty that is probably the best you could ever hope for here.

Your options seem to be:

1) Have someone mediate an agreement between you and Vegas
2) Have your name and reputation smeared and "Santorumed" by Google
3) Pay the full amount

or 4) have a fair and impartial arbitor rule in my favor

! Will you agree to have Steve o locate that arbitrator with the promise of not.swaying his opinion in advance and then comply with whatever the ruling would be?

obv only jsearles would be qualified to choose a fair and impartial arbitrator

[jsearles22]

But Steve-O, what if one of the people knows (or should know) that the other's interpretation is different than theirs, does not attempt to clarify, and intends to use this 'ambiguity' to his advantage? Is there an impasse then? Do you subscribe to jsearles22's justification that "Vegas offered a stupid bet, and I accepted"?

No, because the clear consensus is that the bet was intended as Vegas interpreted it; Searles is in the minority (of one???) on that point. I don't think anyoned could argue that Searles version is the correct one. That said, the fact that Vegas was willing to settle for $450 after learning of Searles interpretation shows that the technicality is there --but it's still a technicality and not enough to cancel the bet in my opinion.

Since Searles wants the bet cancelled, and will never allow me to arbitrate, I was leaning towards him owing $250 (the original bet amount for 15 posts) and possibly some posting restrictions like creating threads or responding to threads involving China, Vegas, et al. And possibly an admonission that he lost the bet (if this was important to Vegas)

I dont want the bet canceled, I never said I wanted the bet canceled.

[Steve-O]

Yes, I ruled against you, but I'm also willing to possibly lighten your burden (although it would probably come with non-monetary stipulations agreed to by Vegas). In all honesty that is probably the best you could ever hope for here.

Your options seem to be:

1) Have someone mediate an agreement between you and Vegas
2) Have your name and reputation smeared and "Santorumed" by Google
3) Pay the full amount

or 4) have a fair and impartial arbitor rule in my favor

! Will you agree to have Steve o locate that arbitrator with the promise of not.swaying his opinion in advance and then comply with whatever the ruling would be?

I could do this as well. I would be happy to find someone who knows nothing of you two or the bet, send them all pertinent posts in this thread and let them decide.

[Steve-O]

No, because the clear consensus is that the bet was intended as Vegas interpreted it; Searles is in the minority (of one???) on that point. I don't think anyoned could argue that Searles version is the correct one. That said, the fact that Vegas was willing to settle for $450 after learning of Searles interpretation shows that the technicality is there --but it's still a technicality and not enough to cancel the bet in my opinion.

Since Searles wants the bet cancelled, and will never allow me to arbitrate, I was leaning towards him owing $250 (the original bet amount for 15 posts) and possibly some posting restrictions like creating threads or responding to threads involving China, Vegas, et al. And possibly an admonission that he lost the bet (if this was important to Vegas)

I dont want the bet canceled, I never said I wanted the bet canceled.

Vegas would never owe you money from your interpretation of the bet... you do realize you are the only person in this thread who has that interpretation, and I'd bet only a few even see it as the most miniscule of technicalites

[I V]

Both Vegas and Searles need to escrow the $500 prior to any arbitration. It would really be a shame if one of the two was freerolling the other.

[FPS_Russia]

Pretty crazy how Vegas picked up on Searles using then instead of than 100% of the time, wtf.

Even crazier is how he got Searles to accept a $500 bet knowing damn well he hasn't written than since kindergarten.

Really?

Should of escrow'd the $500 first but it was a time sensitive hustle.

How crazy would it be if Vegas actually counted and bookmarked the errors before even offering the bet, then acting like he's slaving around the clock to find them, bonafide hustler imo.

[RealTalk]

Both Vegas and Searles need to escrow the $500 prior to any arbitration. It would really be a shame if one of the two was freerolling the other.

[lewfather]

you see a mark you take him down, do you tell the fish at your table he shouldnt be playing ace rag like that?

[Crowe Diddly]

This reminds me of the conversation we all had as a little kid.

A: "I'll bet you 50 dollhairs that you are wrong."
B: "Okay, I proved that I am right, now pay up."
A: "LOL! I said doll hairs!!"

I believe PLOL brought us this nugget:

nice. reminded me of this radio prank, some of you may remember, since a lot of you are in the 'AAF area, and I think this made the Herald, at least:

[vegas1369]

Clearly we have different interpretations of the bet, I would not have agreed to either version of the alternate phrases that you provided. I merely agreed because I read the phrase and snap interpreted that we were betting he could find posts with BOTH words used incorrectly.

I also will not agree to you being the arbitor after you have already ruled against me!

Yes, I ruled against you, but I'm also willing to possibly lighten your burden (although it would probably come with non-monetary stipulations agreed to by Vegas). In all honesty that is probably the best you could ever hope for here.

Your options seem to be:

1) Have someone mediate an agreement between you and Vegas
2) Have your name and reputation smeared and "Santorumed" by Google
3) Pay the full amount

or 4) have a fair and impartial arbitor rule in my favor

LO Fucking L!!! Aside from someone with downs syndrome, no sane person would rule in your favor here, scammer. Pay up.

[TheTemplar]

I believe PLOL brought us this nugget:

nice. reminded me of this radio prank, some of you may remember, since a lot of you are in the 'AAF area, and I think this made the Herald, at least:

Jesus Christ. "I got this old beat up truck, I ma gonna get a new one."

[vegas1369]

That said, the fact that Vegas was willing to settle for $450 after learning of Searles interpretation shows that the technicality is there --but it's still a technicality and not enough to cancel the bet in my opinion.

I only offered to knock the $50 off because I was tired of having to read through all of his posts. It was worth $50 for me not to do that. In no way was this discount because of his angle shot.

[Steve-O]

That said, the fact that Vegas was willing to settle for $450 after learning of Searles interpretation shows that the technicality is there --but it's still a technicality and not enough to cancel the bet in my opinion.

I only offered to knock the $50 off because I was tired of having to read through all of his posts. It was worth $50 for me not to do that. In no way was this discount because of his angle shot.

That's your interpretation of the reasoning behind your decision

[jsearles22]

you see a mark you take him down, do you tell the fish at your table he shouldnt be playing ace rag like that?

Finally someone's sides with me. I saw Vegas slip up and I pounced. Don't playa hate, congratulate.

[FPS_Russia]

As Jsearles attorney I declare the bet void since there's no way for Jsearles to know with certainty that Vegas didn't count the grammar errors in question ahead of offering the bet. It would be a very easy thing to do and the unusually large bet size is very suspicious. Also there is no way for Jsearles to know with if Vegas would of paid up had he lost.

Bet void, escrow in the future.

[RealTalk]

you see a mark you take him down, do you tell the fish at your table he shouldnt be playing ace rag like that?

Finally someone's sides with me. I saw Vegas slip up and I pounced. Don't playa hate, congratulate.

you cant be this stupid...just not possible

[Steve-O]

you see a mark you take him down, do you tell the fish at your table he shouldnt be playing ace rag like that?

Finally someone's sides with me. I saw Vegas slip up and I pounced. Don't playa hate, congratulate.

You do realize that if your claim is the statement is ambiguous than that cuts both ways right? Even if you're right that there are multiple interpretations, you're wrong in that Vegas would owe you money for the very same reason...

The absolute best you could ever hope for is the bet is cancelled, you would never be entitled money

[lewfather]

[ ] siding with jsearles

[jsearles22]

Finally someone's sides with me. I saw Vegas slip up and I pounced. Don't playa hate, congratulate.

You do realize that if your claim is the statement is ambiguous than that cuts both ways right? Even if you're right that there are multiple interpretations, you're wrong in that Vegas would owe you money for the very same reason...

The absolute best you could ever hope for is the best is cancelled, you would never be entitled money

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said the offer was ambiguous. I think the offer made was very clear and concise:

How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly?

[RealTalk]

Pretty crazy how Vegas picked up on Searles using then instead of than 100% of the time, wtf.

Even crazier is how he got Searles to accept a $500 bet knowing damn well he hasn't written than since kindergarten.

Really?

Should of escrow'd the $500 first but it was a time sensitive hustle.

How crazy would it be if Vegas actually counted and bookmarked the errors before even offering the bet, then acting like he's slaving around the clock to find them, bonafide hustler imo.

you see a mark you take him down, do you tell the fish at your table he shouldnt be playing ace rag like that?

Finally someone's sides with me. I saw Vegas slip up and I pounced. Don't playa hate, congratulate.

[ ] siding with jsearles

just so you can piece this together you fucking mongoloid...

yeah your interpretation of things is pretty rock solid...