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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    While Bolton is a Republican and has a good reputation, you do have to take some of this stuff with a grain of salt.
    Jesus.

    Fucking.

    Christ.

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    I do mostly agree with Druff. When Bolton decided to write this book he intended for it to be released prior to this coming election.

    Obviously he has an axe to grind. Probably deserved too.

    I think it will be very damaging.

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    honestly ive looked at all the theories and none of them properly explain to me why he would write a book he knew perfectly well he would go broke because of and yet somehow refuse to testify during the impeachment trial.


    like he could have hit the lecture circuit after either one of those and ended up with a haliburton no-show board seat and been worth low 9 figures by now, so its not a financial thing.


    and the legal costs of fighting for its release is absolutely going to be ruinous in the short term so wtf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    honestly ive looked at all the theories and none of them properly explain to me why he would write a book he knew perfectly well he would go broke because of and yet somehow refuse to testify during the impeachment trial.


    like he could have hit the lecture circuit after either one of those and ended up with a haliburton no-show board seat and been worth low 9 figures by now, so its not a financial thing.


    and the legal costs of fighting for its release is absolutely going to be ruinous in the short term so wtf.
    Didn’t he say he would testify but the senate republicans didn’t want him to? Maybe I’m misremembering.

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    i forget the nuances but if he wanted to he could have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    I do mostly agree with Druff. When Bolton decided to write this book he intended for it to be released prior to this coming election.

    Obviously he has an axe to grind. Probably deserved too.

    I think it will be very damaging.
    Doesn’t mean the shit isn’t true.

    And Bolton surely thinks Trump is unfit so of course he would want to hurt his chances at reelection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    I do mostly agree with Druff. When Bolton decided to write this book he intended for it to be released prior to this coming election.

    Obviously he has an axe to grind. Probably deserved too.

    I think it will be very damaging.

    it will peel away a lot of the functional centerists / right wingers, without question.

    not to mention, a bunch of bush administration and trump ex-administration officials literally just started a pro-biden superpac.

    pretty sure 'not trump' is the huge equity play for this election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    why are you deleting my posts but you let sonatine do it?

    tight site
    Because I already asked for you to stop trolling this thread.

    I let one TDS GIF post stand, deleted the other 6 posts of that, and deleted the gay porn story. I have deleted sonatine's at times in the past, too, when I felt they were interrupting a thread where there was going to be discussion.

    In general, I don't want to see spamming in any thread where people are going to seriously discuss something.

     
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    actually on ONE occasion you took down an extremely trill chicago trap house song in the chicago street warfare thread but i got over it.
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    I had to remove dwai from this thread.

    Whether you agree or disagree with my forum moderation decisions, it's not your place to decide to overrule what I do. If I delete something and ask you not to post it again, don't post it again.

    This is the second time in this thread when you've continued to spam when I deleted your previous spam and asked you to stop.

    Clearly I'm not doing it for any kind of political bias reason, because I'm usually on your side and almost always disagree with the political stuff sonatine posts.

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    So far there is absolutely nothing in this revealing tell all that is even remotely surprising.

    What a fail

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    interesting legal nuance.

    the briefings filed today assert that it contains classified material, threatens sigint sources etc.

    so a lot of people are saying 'ohhhh it must be all true'.

    as it happens its not that black and white.

    if a lie could be traced to a single source, the knowledge of the lie essentially implies the compromise of the single source.

    so lets say i, an NSA employee, tapped the indian embassy in china, and heard an employee there bragging that he shat in the streets of the forbidden city. and i ran it down and he wasnt even in the country at the time he claimed to drop trou and shit on the hallowed stones of china's forbidden city main thoroughfare, per his claim.

    i cant release that information, even tho its a lie, because to do so would reveal that i had tapped the embassy, and to reveal that information would be a national security concern.

    hence; classified.

    that said i havent read a single thing so far that strikes me as false in any and i mean any way, beyond bolton's breathless overestimation of his accomplishments. whats more he kept copious notes.

    still tho, interesting quirk and likely going to be grossly misdiagnosed by the press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    interesting legal nuance.

    the briefings filed today assert that it contains classified material, threatens sigint sources etc.

    so a lot of people are saying 'ohhhh it must be all true'.

    as it happens its not that black and white.

    if a lie could be traced to a single source, the knowledge of the lie essentially implies the compromise of the single source.

    so lets say i, an NSA employee, tapped the indian embassy in china, and heard an employee there bragging that he shat in the streets of the forbidden city. and i ran it down and he wasnt even in the country at the time he claimed to drop trou and shit on the hallowed stones of china's forbidden city main thoroughfare, per his claim.

    i cant release that information, even tho its a lie, because to do so would reveal that i had tapped the embassy, and to reveal that information would be a national security concern.

    hence; classified.

    that said i havent read a single thing so far that strikes me as false in any and i mean any way, beyond bolton's breathless overestimation of his accomplishments. whats more he kept copious notes.

    still tho, interesting quirk and likely going to be grossly misdiagnosed by the press.
    Well the fact of the matter re Southeast Asia is lack of bowel control. You can just go there for yourself and smell it.

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    im sorry thats classified
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I had to remove dwai from this thread.

    Whether you agree or disagree with my forum moderation decisions, it's not your place to decide to overrule what I do. If I delete something and ask you not to post it again, don't post it again.

    This is the second time in this thread when you've continued to spam when I deleted your previous spam and asked you to stop.

    Clearly I'm not doing it for any kind of political bias reason, because I'm usually on your side and almost always disagree with the political stuff sonatine posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    im sorry thats classified
    Not really I have been in numerous bovine induced traffic jams and all agree it stinks to high holy hell.

    Katmandu my ass, it reeks in general.

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    Do it live! I’ll have the cheesecake!

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    APPLE BLACKBERRY CRUMBLE

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