Scammed by TheTemplar thread

[jsearles22]

By the way, jsearles, you have an erroneous view that vegas1369 and I are good friends.

This is completely false.

I was so unhappy with him last year that he actually thought he would be insta-banned if he registered on PFA.

While I have gotten past those issues, it's not like we have since become best buddies, and we never talk aside from when he contacted me last night to see if I would escrow this bet and finally put an end to this annoying situation.

Finally, note that I could have shipped your entire $75 to vegas1369 from The Templar fund, and most of the users here would have applauded me for it. If I was a vegas1369 asskisser, that's definitely what I would have done, but the decision I made (giving you the money from the part I was holding, and leaving the donated money up to the people who donated it, one of whom hates vegas1369), was much more in your favor than his. I have taken a lot of shit for that, so clearly I don't have any bias against you.

I just came off of a monthlong ban here. The reason you banned me that day was because I attacked you personally. Now, a mere few days after my ban has been lifted Im expected to ship you $500 to escrow a bet? A bet that the other party has refused to escrow for months? REMOVE YOURSELF AND LOOK AT IT FROM MY SIDE. Does that all not sound crazy?

[LLL]

Anyone who doesn't trust Druff to escrow a bet shouldn't want to be a member here.

And regardless of the outcome, Druff just ban this clown once it is all said and done. You have been much more patient than most would be with him.

[Dan Druff]

By the way, jsearles, you have an erroneous view that vegas1369 and I are good friends.

This is completely false.

I was so unhappy with him last year that he actually thought he would be insta-banned if he registered on PFA.

While I have gotten past those issues, it's not like we have since become best buddies, and we never talk aside from when he contacted me last night to see if I would escrow this bet and finally put an end to this annoying situation.

Finally, note that I could have shipped your entire $75 to vegas1369 from The Templar fund, and most of the users here would have applauded me for it. If I was a vegas1369 asskisser, that's definitely what I would have done, but the decision I made (giving you the money from the part I was holding, and leaving the donated money up to the people who donated it, one of whom hates vegas1369), was much more in your favor than his. I have taken a lot of shit for that, so clearly I don't have any bias against you.

I just came off of a monthlong ban here. The reason you banned me that day was because I attacked you personally. Now, a mere few days after my ban has been lifted Im expected to ship you $500 to escrow a bet? A bet that the other party has refused to escrow for months? REMOVE YOURSELF AND LOOK AT IT FROM MY SIDE. Does that all not sound crazy?

Get real. Look at this site, people attack me personally all the time, and almost no one gets banned here.

I banned you for dominating the forum with terribleness. I have done the same to limitles in the past, and he rarely attacks me.

Again, if I was anti-jsearles, I would leave you banned, and again most of the userbase would applaud me. Instead, I have a lot of people bitching at me for unbanning you, with some threatening to leave the forum because of it.

Finally, whether I like someone or hate them, I will always keep my word to them.

Even if I was holding money for MWH, I would be honest with his money.

I have spent 8 years building a reputation as a guy you can trust, and as someone who calls out shady people/companies in poker. I would not want to throw that away for the sake of grabbing your $500 for vegas1369.

If I were to break the terms of the escrow here, nobody would ever trust me again.

[Sloppy Joe]

Perhaps fat Searles could provide a list of alternatives for people to hold his $500 if he is indeed serious about settling this.

Of course, 100% of the board knows that this will never take place so just give it a fucking rest.

[jsearles22]

I just came off of a monthlong ban here. The reason you banned me that day was because I attacked you personally. Now, a mere few days after my ban has been lifted Im expected to ship you $500 to escrow a bet? A bet that the other party has refused to escrow for months? REMOVE YOURSELF AND LOOK AT IT FROM MY SIDE. Does that all not sound crazy?

Get real. Look at this site, people attack me personally all the time, and almost no one gets banned here.

I banned you for dominating the forum with terribleness. I have done the same to limitles in the past, and he rarely attacks me.

Again, if I was anti-jsearles, I would leave you banned, and again most of the userbase would applaud me. Instead, I have a lot of people bitching at me for unbanning you, with some threatening to leave the forum because of it.

Finally, whether I like someone or hate them, I will always keep my word to them.

Even if I was holding money for MWH, I would be honest with his money.

I have spent 8 years building a reputation as a guy you can trust, and as someone who calls out shady people/companies in poker. I would not want to throw that away for the sake of grabbing your $500 for vegas1369.

If I were to break the terms of the escrow here, nobody would ever trust me again.

The mere fact that we are even having this conversation means that I should not agree to you being the escrow holder. Maybe its a bad read, but I have to follow my gut on this one. Whats done is done and Todd will not be the escrow holder.

Now that thats solved, lets move on and actually try to settle this. Any suggestions for suitable escrow holders that we both could agree on?

[jsearles22]

Perhaps fat Searles could provide a list of alternatives for people to hold his $500 if he is indeed serious about settling this.

Of course, 100% of the board knows that this will never take place so just give it a fucking rest.

Im trying to think of suitable alternatives.Tony Bags maybe? Escrow.com?

[Wiganer]

Perhaps fat Searles could provide a list of alternatives for people to hold his $500 if he is indeed serious about settling this.

Of course, 100% of the board knows that this will never take place so just give it a fucking rest.

Im trying to think of suitable alternatives.Tony Bags maybe? Escrow.com?

So, you say Druff isn't acceptable, yet after months to think about it you hadn't got a sensible alternative already identified?

Of course not you fetid welshing mong.

[jsearles22]

Im trying to think of suitable alternatives.Tony Bags maybe? Escrow.com?

So, you say Druff isn't acceptable, yet after months to think about it you hadn't got a sensible alternative already identified?

Of course not you fetid welshing mong.

Vegas had been refusing this whole time (which LOL he is getting a pass for). I hadnt really pondered it because I didnt think it was a possibility honestly.

[Jasep]

Druff is probably the most suitable escrow imaginable....

If I made a massive bet off of this board that required escrow I would still look to him as an escrow for me...

With that said... Suitable escrows that are not to close to the situation:

Tony Bagodonuts
JFerg
Steve-O
PLOL
JimmyG
Pikachar


^All people I have had positive transactions with and would give 5 star reports too and I would never require escrow if doing business with them, I have no idea if any of them have interest but I am sure the two of you can agree on one of those guys (These are not a vouches, the only personal vouche I will make is for PLOL and Pikachar)

I can probably add a half dozen more names to this list if need be.

[BUBBLES]

Druff
Chinamaniac
Tonybags
Jasep
Drexel
Plol
Surely you could accept one of these people to hold the money.

[jsearles22]

Druff
Chinamaniac
Tonybags
Jasep
Drexel
Plol
Surely you could accept one of these people to hold the money.

Druff- discussed already
Jasep, China, Drexel- Vegas business partners
PLOL- im unfamiliar with him other then knowing he ate a shoe?
Tony- im open to this idea being discussed

[Jasep]

Druff
Chinamaniac
Tonybags
Jasep
Drexel
Plol
Surely you could accept one of these people to hold the money.

Druff- discussed already
Jasep, China, Drexel- Vegas business partners
PLOL- im unfamiliar with him other then knowing he ate a shoe?
Tony- im open to this idea being discussed

Just because you have no integrity does not mean that none of us do.... The names that are bolded are all professional gamblers, not one of us would ever risk our reputation over holding funding for a 500.00 bet.

With that said, I already gave you a suitable list.

[BUBBLES]

What about cmoney?

[Pooh]

Druff, please get rid of this asshole once and for all.

[tommyt]

i smell a big fat

[NaturalBornHustler]

This faggot clearly does not have $50 to his name much less $500, perma ban his ass already.

This shit is old.

[jsearles22]

This faggot clearly does not have $50 to his name much less $500, perma ban his ass already.

This shit is old.

I agree. This is clearly why Vegas has been refusing to escrow. The bar tips ain't rolling in like they used to.

[vegas1369]

Christ all mighty, already the bullshit starts. Just another stall tactic in a long line of stall tactics, angle shots and bullshit. There is no one more worthy of escrowing to than Druff. All the bullshit excuses this guy comes up with to not escrow to him are absolutely ludicrous. Already this is exactly what I was afraid of. Now not only will we have to discuss in length who we trust to judge this shit, but now who to escrow to, too. For me its either druff or nobody, I am not going to waste my time anymore discussing this crap. He has said numerous times he would escrow to druff. Now that I am willing to do so he finds more excuses as to why he can't. I'm sure now everyone sees this for the bullshit it is. I am still willing to escrow to druff to settle this. There is absolutely no legit reason to suggest anyone else other than to stall this shit further.

[Pooh]

I'll go ahead and escrow this guys.

[Crowe Diddly]

Druff
Chinamaniac
Tonybags
Jasep
Drexel
Plol
Surely you could accept one of these people to hold the money.

Druff- discussed already
Jasep, China, Drexel- Vegas business partners
PLOL- im unfamiliar with him other then knowing he ate a shoe?
Tony- im open to this idea being discussed

If Jasep's handling of the Templar shit doesn't convince you that he's about as above-board as can be with money, I'm not sure you'll be able to find anyone in the community to trust.