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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasep View Post
    That really sucks, cause now I just see a thread title that I was accused of being a scammer and none of the statements that were given to clear my name
    Just changed the thread title to make it more clear.

    I'm really sorry about this whole thing. I wish there was a way to get it back, but it's just gone forever.
    Have you tried The WayBack Machine?

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    It might be in 4bets favor that the thread was deleted.

    Really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixToedPete View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Just changed the thread title to make it more clear.

    I'm really sorry about this whole thing. I wish there was a way to get it back, but it's just gone forever.
    Have you tried The WayBack Machine?
    The Wayback Machine hasn't found PokerFraudAlert yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    It might be in 4bets favor that the thread was deleted.

    Really.
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    Lol at the amount of effort that druff's friends have to exert trying to do an internet podcast without offending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SixToedPete View Post

    Have you tried The WayBack Machine?
    The Wayback Machine hasn't found PokerFraudAlert yet.
    IC. Have you tried a Google cached search?

    Just search:

    cache:URL

    Should be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post

    Real joke, Druff you dont want to say what you think about this, You think its right that he dodges me, phone dead, lol, You think its right that the package ended a week ago and he still dont pay? Oh ya I forget to let everyone know the 140 is much less then invested this is just a refund of tourys not played
    I already posted what I thought about this, but it got deleted along with the rest of the original thread.

    I think that you freaked out way too early over this. Jasep has a good reputation and this debt only dates back a week. Obviously you should have given him more time before accusing him of being a "filthy scammer", and I think that's the consensus around here.

    I think that the text ignoring thing is just an unfortunate coincidence (that his phone had issues right when this occurred), and while I can understand you being suspicious and annoyed, you should have given it more time, including sending him messages on here or DD. (Did you ever even try doing that?)

    You have to think that a guy attempting to build up a site and a radio show isn't going to ruin his reputation over a matter of $140.
    No I dont think he would try and ruin his reputation over 140, I think he is busted and did not have the 140, Funny you believe the "PHONE WAS DEAD" B.S and he knew he owned the money phone dead or not, I am 100% sure you would never handle a stake deal like this, yet you or johnny have admitted that he did not handle this in a professional manner

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I already posted what I thought about this, but it got deleted along with the rest of the original thread.

    I think that you freaked out way too early over this. Jasep has a good reputation and this debt only dates back a week. Obviously you should have given him more time before accusing him of being a "filthy scammer", and I think that's the consensus around here.

    I think that the text ignoring thing is just an unfortunate coincidence (that his phone had issues right when this occurred), and while I can understand you being suspicious and annoyed, you should have given it more time, including sending him messages on here or DD. (Did you ever even try doing that?)

    You have to think that a guy attempting to build up a site and a radio show isn't going to ruin his reputation over a matter of $140.
    No I dont think he would try and ruin his reputation over 140, I think he is busted and did not have the 140, Funny you believe the "PHONE WAS DEAD" B.S and he knew he owned the money phone dead or not, I am 100% sure you would never handle a stake deal like this, yet you or johnny have admitted that he did not handle this in a professional manner
    You think I am busted? Thats funny, I think you are busted and thats why you are making such a mountain out of a mole hill.

    You have yet to say whether or not you tried any other means of contacting me other than text.

    I have admitted to this being, most likely, a misunderstanding and I have said that I may have been discourteous to you by not emailing you (even though i spoke to you a few days ago) but I truly think that I was/am still within the time frame I said you would be paid. If you don't see a problem with your reactions and the line that you took here than there is really no reasoning with you.

    If you want an apology from me no problem. I am sorry that I did not ship you the greendot card in the time frame you expected and that maybe I did not properly set the expectation on when you will receive it.

    You are getting the card tomorrow, that would be the case with or without this thread and I will expect apology and acknowledgment of over reaction once it is received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SixToedPete View Post

    Have you tried The WayBack Machine?
    The Wayback Machine hasn't found PokerFraudAlert yet.
    Do you have a robot.txt file prohibiting spiders? wayback respects it if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    No I dont think he would try and ruin his reputation over 140, I think he is busted and did not have the 140, Funny you believe the "PHONE WAS DEAD" B.S and he knew he owned the money phone dead or not, I am 100% sure you would never handle a stake deal like this, yet you or johnny have admitted that he did not handle this in a professional manner
    You think I am busted? Thats funny, I think you are busted and thats why you are making such a mountain out of a mole hill.

    You have yet to say whether or not you tried any other means of contacting me other than text.

    I have admitted to this being, most likely, a misunderstanding and I have said that I may have been discourteous to you by not emailing you (even though i spoke to you a few days ago) but I truly think that I was/am still within the time frame I said you would be paid. If you don't see a problem with your reactions and the line that you took here than there is really no reasoning with you.

    If you want an apology from me no problem. I am sorry that I did not ship you the greendot card in the time frame you expected and that maybe I did not properly set the expectation on when you will receive it.

    You are getting the card tomorrow, that would be the case with or without this thread and I will expect apology and acknowledgment of over reaction once it is received.
    lol, ok I am the one busted when I play poker everyday and on my own money and I owe nobody a dime, You are clueless kid, I have been in this game alot longer then you ever will be. I know you have alot to learn, I know in poker my word is gold, I dont beg for stakes , If I want to play a toury I buyin (with my own money) And every dime I have came from playing poker, yes I have more money then you will ever see, You have to grow up kid you act like you are the best when really you are a kid with a dream (a bad dream) and the fact is I am living the dream, I do what ever I want when I want

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasep View Post

    You think I am busted? Thats funny, I think you are busted and thats why you are making such a mountain out of a mole hill.

    You have yet to say whether or not you tried any other means of contacting me other than text.

    I have admitted to this being, most likely, a misunderstanding and I have said that I may have been discourteous to you by not emailing you (even though i spoke to you a few days ago) but I truly think that I was/am still within the time frame I said you would be paid. If you don't see a problem with your reactions and the line that you took here than there is really no reasoning with you.

    If you want an apology from me no problem. I am sorry that I did not ship you the greendot card in the time frame you expected and that maybe I did not properly set the expectation on when you will receive it.

    You are getting the card tomorrow, that would be the case with or without this thread and I will expect apology and acknowledgment of over reaction once it is received.
    lol, ok I am the one busted when I play poker everyday and on my own money and I owe nobody a dime, You are clueless kid, I have been in this game alot longer then you ever will be. I know you have alot to learn, I know in poker my word is gold, I dont beg for stakes , If I want to play a toury I buyin (with my own money) And every dime I have came from playing poker, yes I have more money then you will ever see, You have to grow up kid you act like you are the best when really you are a kid with a dream (a bad dream) and the fact is I am living the dream, I do what ever I want when I want
    Why do I have this weird feeling that there is something else motivating 4Bet? His responses have been totally unreasonable every step of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasep View Post

    You think I am busted? Thats funny, I think you are busted and thats why you are making such a mountain out of a mole hill.

    You have yet to say whether or not you tried any other means of contacting me other than text.

    I have admitted to this being, most likely, a misunderstanding and I have said that I may have been discourteous to you by not emailing you (even though i spoke to you a few days ago) but I truly think that I was/am still within the time frame I said you would be paid. If you don't see a problem with your reactions and the line that you took here than there is really no reasoning with you.

    If you want an apology from me no problem. I am sorry that I did not ship you the greendot card in the time frame you expected and that maybe I did not properly set the expectation on when you will receive it.

    You are getting the card tomorrow, that would be the case with or without this thread and I will expect apology and acknowledgment of over reaction once it is received.
    lol, ok I am the one busted when I play poker everyday and on my own money and I owe nobody a dime, You are clueless kid, I have been in this game alot longer then you ever will be. I know you have alot to learn, I know in poker my word is gold, I dont beg for stakes , If I want to play a toury I buyin (with my own money) And every dime I have came from playing poker, yes I have more money then you will ever see, You have to grow up kid you act like you are the best when really you are a kid with a dream (a bad dream) and the fact is I am living the dream, I do what ever I want when I want
    You sir are a complete and utter jackass. You have completely embarrassed yourself and please do us all a huge favor and get the fuck out and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Fucking moron.
    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Lol at the amount of effort that druff's friends have to exert trying to do an internet podcast without offending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasep View Post

    You think I am busted? Thats funny, I think you are busted and thats why you are making such a mountain out of a mole hill.

    You have yet to say whether or not you tried any other means of contacting me other than text.

    I have admitted to this being, most likely, a misunderstanding and I have said that I may have been discourteous to you by not emailing you (even though i spoke to you a few days ago) but I truly think that I was/am still within the time frame I said you would be paid. If you don't see a problem with your reactions and the line that you took here than there is really no reasoning with you.

    If you want an apology from me no problem. I am sorry that I did not ship you the greendot card in the time frame you expected and that maybe I did not properly set the expectation on when you will receive it.

    You are getting the card tomorrow, that would be the case with or without this thread and I will expect apology and acknowledgment of over reaction once it is received.
    lol, ok I am the one busted when I play poker everyday and on my own money and I owe nobody a dime, You are clueless kid, I have been in this game alot longer then you ever will be. I know you have alot to learn, I know in poker my word is gold, I dont beg for stakes , If I want to play a toury I buyin (with my own money) And every dime I have came from playing poker, yes I have more money then you will ever see, You have to grow up kid you act like you are the best when really you are a kid with a dream (a bad dream) and the fact is I am living the dream, I do what ever I want when I want
    Ok Jeff, whatever you say bud, you have shown me and everyone else your true character here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    lol, ok I am the one busted when I play poker everyday and on my own money and I owe nobody a dime, You are clueless kid, I have been in this game alot longer then you ever will be. I know you have alot to learn, I know in poker my word is gold, I dont beg for stakes , If I want to play a toury I buyin (with my own money) And every dime I have came from playing poker, yes I have more money then you will ever see, You have to grow up kid you act like you are the best when really you are a kid with a dream (a bad dream) and the fact is I am living the dream, I do what ever I want when I want
    You sir are a complete and utter jackass. You have completely embarrassed yourself and please do us all a huge favor and get the fuck out and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Fucking moron.
    Just posting the facts if you dont like them dont read, Now fk off, I am sure you are another busted bum poster

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    Druff give this faggot the crybaby avatar and make his title "$140 richer".

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    Bottom line is even if Jasep was busted (I'm not saying he is) he could borrow $140 from about a million people to pay this off.

    Weak of this guy making a thread over $140 after 3 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins View Post

    You sir are a complete and utter jackass. You have completely embarrassed yourself and please do us all a huge favor and get the fuck out and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Fucking moron.
    Just posting the facts if you dont like them dont read, Now fk off, I am sure you are another busted bum poster
    What facts did you post? That I sell action in poker tournaments? Me and every other player on the planet, Druff is selling his action too, is he broke? China? nope...

    I have been insanely generous with my money and my time to these communities, I am hosting a free poker league where my sponsorship money is going directly to the people on my site, I got my hands on an Ipad and gave it away... I have given out hundreds of dollars in free shit as a thank you. I have played in more poker tournaments than almost anyone on here including you by an large margin and have never had a single staking issue ever despite being staked for 9 years now.

    You are the one with the issue and me giving you a specific time just does not seem good enough for you, you will get your money, job well done on attempting to hurt my rep...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins View Post

    You sir are a complete and utter jackass. You have completely embarrassed yourself and please do us all a huge favor and get the fuck out and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Fucking moron.
    Just posting the facts if you dont like them dont read, Now fk off, I am sure you are another busted bum poster
    Oh you got me there big fella. I do have a very nice stream of income because I have a job unlike you who has shown to be extremely unemployable. Am I bitching about $140. Like I said earlier your trick with the $100 hooker needs to wait a little longer. God your such a fucktard.
    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Lol at the amount of effort that druff's friends have to exert trying to do an internet podcast without offending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Bottom line is even if Jasep was busted (I'm not saying he is) he could borrow $140 from about a million people to pay this off.

    Weak of this guy making a thread over $140 after 3 days
    This is a great point. I have no problem borrowing money if need be, this is not the case here... its been a few days, i said i would pay in a few days, relax jeff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Bottom line is even if Jasep was busted (I'm not saying he is) he could borrow $140 from about a million people to pay this off.

    Weak of this guy making a thread over $140 after 3 days
    China no one asked for your 2 cents, I unlike you make money playing poker and you have to beg for a stake (which u are about to bust on) You are like johnny you think you are better then you are. If you both are so good where is the money?? Me I just count the cash at the end of the year and SAY MAN I LOVE THIS GAME, Part of why i do so well is because of suckers like you guys who think there good,lolol

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