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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
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    It was probably some noob who sucked at poker, lost a bunch of bitcoin on Seals, and then thought to himself "zomg rigged", and reported the site for breaking US gambling laws or whatever.

    It is possible that the Belgian guy is a partially true excuse for why they investigated Seals, to where he was the first to complain, but in reality they finally took action because Caesars bitched or something. I'm just guessing here, but it didn't take 18 months for them to determine that Micon was "chairman" and that he was living in Las Vegas. Obviously something kicked the NGC's asses into high gear in late 2014 or early 2015.

    And I'm guessing it was someone/something with influence in the state of Nevada.
    I'm going to go full tinfoil hat conspiracy here - please dont flame me too much. I'm mostly a long time lurker and dont know Micon at all, so I probably have the time line wrong. But I love the law and good legal mysteries.

    I believe that Micon started with Seals some time in 2011, but the tip to Nevada Gaming did not come until August 2013, so very little chance it's someone who was either affiliated with Seals itself or a long time player at Seals.

    I'm not sure about Bitcoin values spiking and then falling, but it's possible that it could have been someone in 2013, familiar with Micon, that lost enough money in Bitcoins to be pissed at him. Possible, but not very likely.

    So who in early to mid 2013 could have been so angry at Micon to want to destroy him by reporting him to local Nevada authorities. A person or group of people not only familiar with Micon, poker and Seals With Clubs, but also with some European ties AND familiar enough with Nevada law to know to contact someone at the Nevada Gaming Association (as compared to simply contacting the DOJ on a federal level, which someone from Belgium would more likely do).

    So who (locally) fits the above criteria? hmmmm....

    http://www.donkdown.com/daniel-negre...ter-scam-cult/
    You just went full retarded. No one needed to tip anyone off. Micon did a good job of making sure they already knew.

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    Keep in mind micon had hundreds of enemies in bitcoin. He saw to it to expose scams. He was very vocal in getting numerous ponzi schemes shut down and also at least one major business. Anyone one of these guys could have passed along his info. As much as some people dislike him here it is worse in thar community given how outspoken he was. He was very polarizing.

     
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    I should never have watched Going Clear on HBO and what cults will do to non-believers. Full retard for sure, my apologies!

     
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    Micon it is time to pull out all the stops.

    Register an account at PFA.

     

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    Reading the statute closer Micon is really fucked, the not being an owner is not a legal defense in this case.

    He really should consider coming back as soon as possible, and go for the mercy route.

    Minimum is a year in jail, he has no priors, he can probably get near bottom sentencing and move on with his life in a way that is pretty minimal all things considered.

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    Looks pretty obvious that Micon has very little money to fall back on. And I'm including his stash of Bitcoins in that.


    And the donations he's asking for will dry up faster than a rape victims cunt.


    So that leaves his only possible source of income being SwC.. But you would have to be insane to deposit on a site that's currently sitting on a trapdoor.


    Anyway I agree with the popular view.... that he is seriously fucked here.



    Also. jail isn't the end of the world for somebody that sees 'themselves' as an entrepreneur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Looks pretty obvious that Micon has very little money to fall back on. And I'm including his stash of Bitcoins in that.


    And the donations he's asking for will dry up faster than a rape victims cunt.


    So that leaves his only possible source of income being SwC.. But you would have to be insane to deposit on a site that's currently sitting on a trapdoor.


    Anyway I agree with the popular view.... that he is seriously fucked here.



    Also. jail isn't the end of the world for somebody that sees 'themselves' as an entrepreneur.
    One of the parts of this that really makes me shake my head is if he had simply read the statute and realized that living in NV was a big fucking mistake. He could have simply moved 45 minutes south over the border and into Arizona and drove up to the city anytime he wanted to. By living in Nevada he opened himself up to all sorts of risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Looks pretty obvious that Micon has very little money to fall back on. And I'm including his stash of Bitcoins in that.


    And the donations he's asking for will dry up faster than a rape victims cunt.


    So that leaves his only possible source of income being SwC.. But you would have to be insane to deposit on a site that's currently sitting on a trapdoor.


    Anyway I agree with the popular view.... that he is seriously fucked here.



    Also. jail isn't the end of the world for somebody that sees 'themselves' as an entrepreneur.
    One of the parts of this that really makes me shake my head is if he had simply read the statute and realized that living in NV was a big fucking mistake. He could have simply moved 45 minutes south over the border and into Arizona and drove up to the city anytime he wanted to. By living in Nevada he opened himself up to all sorts of risk.

    In his defense, this was clearly a major reason why he was pricing Antigua properties when btc were up in the 4 digit range.

    The market crashed, he put shit on hold probably because he thought his digital beanie babies were doing to swing up any day now, and lost the race.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post

    One of the parts of this that really makes me shake my head is if he had simply read the statute and realized that living in NV was a big fucking mistake. He could have simply moved 45 minutes south over the border and into Arizona and drove up to the city anytime he wanted to. By living in Nevada he opened himself up to all sorts of risk.
    THIS

    Also don't be the f'n "Chairman".

    Be the "Affiliate GURU" or "Sponsored Pro" etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
    Reading the statute closer Micon is really fucked, the not being an owner is not a legal defense in this case.

    He really should consider coming back as soon as possible, and go for the mercy route.

    Minimum is a year in jail, he has no priors, he can probably get near bottom sentencing and move on with his life in a way that is pretty minimal all things considered.
    It also helps he's a white person

    One of the parts of this that really makes me shake my head is if he had simply read the statute and realized that living in NV was a big fucking mistake. He could have simply moved 45 minutes south over the border and into Arizona and drove up to the city anytime he wanted to. By living in Nevada he opened himself up to all sorts of risk.

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    Micon and Bitcoin was the reason I started playing poker seriously. Hope he can figure out a way to avoid major jail time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post

    One of the parts of this that really makes me shake my head is if he had simply read the statute and realized that living in NV was a big fucking mistake. He could have simply moved 45 minutes south over the border and into Arizona and drove up to the city anytime he wanted to. By living in Nevada he opened himself up to all sorts of risk.
    THIS

    Also don't be the f'n "Chairman".

    Be the "Affiliate GURU" or "Sponsored Pro" etc. etc.
    Actually if you read the law that wouldn't matter basically earning money in any form from Seals would make him liable for a Class B Felony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post

    THIS

    Also don't be the f'n "Chairman".

    Be the "Affiliate GURU" or "Sponsored Pro" etc. etc.
    Actually if you read the law that wouldn't matter basically earning money in any form from Seals would make him liable for a Class B Felony.
    Did the higher-ups of Tilt/Stars/etc make deals so they wouldn't go after site pros/affiliates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    Five suits from the State of Nevada standing behind a official state podium announcing your arrest warrant. Not good.

    I was thinking maybe they wouldn't go to Ant. to extradite Micon or maybe they'd offer Micon a stiff fine plus probation plea deal.

    I dunno, looks like these guys can't wait to throw his ass in the shit hole county jail and set his bail for a million bucks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    Five suits from the State of Nevada standing behind a official state podium announcing your arrest warrant. Not good.

    I was thinking maybe they wouldn't go to Ant. to extradite Micon or maybe they'd offer Micon a stiff fine plus probation plea deal.

    I dunno, looks like these guys can't wait to throw his ass in the shit hole county jail and set his bail for a million bucks.



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    I'm thinking a Seals with club logo on the inside of the "great seal of the state of nevada"

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post

    Actually if you read the law that wouldn't matter basically earning money in any form from Seals would make him liable for a Class B Felony.
    Did the higher-ups of Tilt/Stars/etc make deals so they wouldn't go after site pros/affiliates?
    That case wasn't a Nevada based case. It was a Federal case, different laws entirely.

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