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    How the hell do you support a wife and child on 40k/yr?

    He must have some btc sitting somewhere.


    maybe his legal defense is "I was just a marketing guy, and they let me play poker on the site for nothing. I didnt own anything. Prove that I did. Prove that I have any ownership in this site".

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    "Similarly, Laxalt said at a press conference today that he believes the charges against Micon are the first of their kind in Nevada. "


    lol, because anyone with an IQ above that of a wash cloth knew it was basically suicide so no one tried it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    I think some of you, who view him as a Martyr, forget how much he screwed over many of his friends, threw them under the bus, treated people like shit, and was a greedy, lazy shit who contributed very little in the grand scheme of things to Donk Down, while Druff did most of the work.

    He posted the mostly-nude photo of Drexel, which would make me want to kill the guy, making Drexel is a bigger man than I, and proclaimed something to the effect of "DONT FORGET...I MADE THIS" when describing his website/infamy. He is a complete snake oil salesman, who will shill for anything if you paid him, and once we ghost-towned his site for the poor treatment he showed to all of the loyal followers, he then immediately turned it into his personal fiefdom of a bitcoin site.

    I have no pity for him. I slightly admired him for turning a shitty situation into one where he apparently was going to "get away with his btc site and benefit financially", however that is now blowing up in his big-beaked face. I have no sympathy for him...I feel for his wife and child, who are likely stuck in a poor situation through no fault of their own. He either lied to them about this being perfectly safe/legit, or made away with a lot of money and has no plans on a return. If you are his wife, and you are an attorney, you have to have SOME desire for due diligence, and should have investigated a little bit into what the legal ramifications were going to be for his decision(s). Or, his attorney did a "DONT WORRY ABOUT IT...." routine and they think they have an iron-clad case. If she and the child fly back, that would likely be the best decision she makes. I would think that due to govt's and other high major business/banks/entities desire to shut btc down, that the NGC WILL want to make an example of him, and throw everything they can at him, just so no one gets any more ideas. If they go soft, it will not be enough of a deterrent to prevent others from attempting similar businesses. I am guessing they go for mandatory jail time and a $$$$$ fine, if not $$$$$$.

    Anyone who thinks that "he's a great guy"....no he isnt. He is only nice to you if you can do something for him. He will give you some tiny amounts of btc, when they arent worth much, just to get you hooked on his poker site so he can benefit from you. He will sell you vape pens too. Its always to benefit him. I have yet to hear of anything he has done, that is out of the goodness of his heart with no benefit to him in some way.

    I wish his wife and child well. He will be an annotated note in a wikipedia file about a legal case.

    As I said before I've had no personal interaction with Micon. But I also got this impression. He seemed to treat the everyday user on donkdown as beneath him, but when the poker celeb of the week would come on the show, he would kiss their ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    How the hell do you support a wife and child on 40k/yr?

    He must have some btc sitting somewhere.


    maybe his legal defense is "I was just a marketing guy, and they let me play poker on the site for nothing. I didnt own anything. Prove that I did. Prove that I have any ownership in this site".

    most of his worth had to come from Bitcoin appreciation, not Seals.

    Didn't he pay off like a $30k wager at one point over butterfly labs?

    That led me to believe he had bank, because I recall the Micon who agreed on a tourney chop and then there was a technical glitch or something, and he had to be convinced to live up to chop. That dude wasn't paying off a year's salary level wager unless it wasn't that much to him. But then Bitcoin crashed, so who knows at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Wars View Post
    I'd like to know who made (or allegedly made) the $1,000 "Anonymous" GoFundMe donation. Probably Chesnoff himself...
    SetofKs is taking credit for the $1k donation. Who knows if it was actually him. seems weird to make an anonymous donation and then take credit for it on twitter.

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    when btc were about 1200, he was a btc millionaire and then some. around this time he had started planning the antigua move apparently.

    by the time he got raided, he was worth about 15% of that obviously and was basically making ends meet on seals dividends, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    How the hell do you support a wife and child on 40k/yr?

    He must have some btc sitting somewhere.


    maybe his legal defense is "I was just a marketing guy, and they let me play poker on the site for nothing. I didnt own anything. Prove that I did. Prove that I have any ownership in this site".

    most of his worth had to come from Bitcoin appreciation, not Seals.

    Didn't he pay off like a $30k wager at one point over butterfly labs?

    That led me to believe he had bank, because I recall the Micon who agreed on a tourney chop and then there was a technical glitch or something, and he had to be convinced to live up to chop. That dude wasn't paying off a year's salary level wager unless it wasn't that much to him. But then Bitcoin crashed, so who knows at this point?

    I think you're right, he may have even taken his payment from seals in bitcoin. If he took bitcoin as payment right from the jump then he would've done well. Also, didn't Drexel say that Micon took out 100k in cash and put it on the table in a cash game in Vegas? So I don't think he was living on 40k a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    From reddit:

    bryanmicon 1 point 6 minutes ago
    (guess I have to make everything a Bitcoin discussion)

    Note that the law firm I've retained, Chessnoff & Schonfeld, only take fiat currency. It is worth noting that I started a GoFundMe so that I could collect fiat currency, in that my personal safety and the safety of my family is at stake, fiat is more useful to me for this particular matter.

    While I'll be bangin' Bitcoin until I die, and we've come a very, very long way, it's always important to take a realistic look at the world economy and not let our love of the blockchain make us exaggerate.

    As a marketing guy you always are tempted to paint the rosiest picture, but I like taking a realistic approach.
    In an ironic twist, he wants his donations in regular currency, not bitcoin.
    When you start referring to fiat currency after bitcoin, you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daredevil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post


    most of his worth had to come from Bitcoin appreciation, not Seals.

    Didn't he pay off like a $30k wager at one point over butterfly labs?

    That led me to believe he had bank, because I recall the Micon who agreed on a tourney chop and then there was a technical glitch or something, and he had to be convinced to live up to chop. That dude wasn't paying off a year's salary level wager unless it wasn't that much to him. But then Bitcoin crashed, so who knows at this point?

    I think you're right, he may have even taken his payment from seals in bitcoin. If he took bitcoin as payment right from the jump then he would've done well. Also, didn't Drexel say that Micon took out 100k in cash and put it on the table in a cash game in Vegas? So I don't think he was living on 40k a year.
    He was living off the 40 a year, the bitcoin money from the 'gold rush' is what he had as his bankroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daredevil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    I think some of you, who view him as a Martyr, forget how much he screwed over many of his friends, threw them under the bus, treated people like shit, and was a greedy, lazy shit who contributed very little in the grand scheme of things to Donk Down, while Druff did most of the work.

    He posted the mostly-nude photo of Drexel, which would make me want to kill the guy, making Drexel is a bigger man than I, and proclaimed something to the effect of "DONT FORGET...I MADE THIS" when describing his website/infamy. He is a complete snake oil salesman, who will shill for anything if you paid him, and once we ghost-towned his site for the poor treatment he showed to all of the loyal followers, he then immediately turned it into his personal fiefdom of a bitcoin site.

    I have no pity for him. I slightly admired him for turning a shitty situation into one where he apparently was going to "get away with his btc site and benefit financially", however that is now blowing up in his big-beaked face. I have no sympathy for him...I feel for his wife and child, who are likely stuck in a poor situation through no fault of their own. He either lied to them about this being perfectly safe/legit, or made away with a lot of money and has no plans on a return. If you are his wife, and you are an attorney, you have to have SOME desire for due diligence, and should have investigated a little bit into what the legal ramifications were going to be for his decision(s). Or, his attorney did a "DONT WORRY ABOUT IT...." routine and they think they have an iron-clad case. If she and the child fly back, that would likely be the best decision she makes. I would think that due to govt's and other high major business/banks/entities desire to shut btc down, that the NGC WILL want to make an example of him, and throw everything they can at him, just so no one gets any more ideas. If they go soft, it will not be enough of a deterrent to prevent others from attempting similar businesses. I am guessing they go for mandatory jail time and a $$$$$ fine, if not $$$$$$.

    Anyone who thinks that "he's a great guy"....no he isnt. He is only nice to you if you can do something for him. He will give you some tiny amounts of btc, when they arent worth much, just to get you hooked on his poker site so he can benefit from you. He will sell you vape pens too. Its always to benefit him. I have yet to hear of anything he has done, that is out of the goodness of his heart with no benefit to him in some way.

    I wish his wife and child well. He will be an annotated note in a wikipedia file about a legal case.

    As I said before I've had no personal interaction with Micon. But I also got this impression. He seemed to treat the everyday user on donkdown as beneath him, but when the poker celeb of the week would come on the show, he would kiss their ass.
    I've met the guy 4x's - and he forgot who I was each time (but would always end our conversation by giving me a ton of DD/SWC schwag).

    But he also smokes a shit ton of weed, so I can't judge.

     
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    he gave you swag to promote HIS business/sites.

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    Do these new developments make my neverwinpoker and donkdown memorabilia anymore valuable?

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    Man charged with running illegal poker site from Nevada
    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/289244...te-from-nevada

    LAS VEGAS -- Nevada Attorney General Adam Laxalt has filed felony charges against the operator of an illegal online poker site.

    Bryan Micon, 36, was charged with operating an unlicensed interactive gambling site from Nevada. Gaming officials said they had been investigating the site for nearly a year when Micon fled to the West Indies in hopes of keeping his site up and running.

    Thsi is the first time, the Nevada Attorney General's office is attempting to prosecute an illegal online poker site.

    "Micon's website was never licensed in the state of Nevada," Laxalt said.

    The site, Seals with Clubs, used the digital currency bitcoins to allow gamblers to place bets. Authorities executed a search warrant in February and the site was shut down.

    Currently, the site is only active for players to withdraw their money from their accounts.

    The case's lead prosecutor says as investigators moved in on Micon, he fled.

    "We are in possession of information that upon learning of our criminal investigation, in this case, Mr. Micon left Clark County and left the United States," said Jeff Seagull, chief deputy attorney general.

    A declaration for arrest obtained by 8 News NOW shows investigators believe Micon flew to Antigua. A message on the website also says Micon is trying to re-establish the site in Antigua.

    David Schwartz, the director of UNLV's Center for Gaming Research, says this case sets an important precedent.

    By 2010, before a major crackdown on online poker sites, 2.5 million Americans played on average per year. Poker sites like Full Tilt poker brought in $1.4 billion the year before at the height of the online poker boom.

    Micon faces a felony charge of operating an unlicensed interactive gaming system. If caught and convicted, he could face up to 10 years in prison and $50,000 in fines.

    "My message to Mr. Micon is that he should immediately return to Clark County to face these charges," said Seagull.

    The attorney general says his office will continue to pursue Micon "with every available and appropriate legal remedy."

    The U.S. currently has an extradition treaty with Antigua.


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    "My message to Mr. Micon is that he should immediately return to Clark County to face these charges," said Seagull.

    The attorney general says his office will continue to pursue Micon "with every available and appropriate legal remedy."

    The U.S. currently has an extradition treaty with Antigua.




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    Complaint filed against man suspected of running illegal gaming site
    http://www.scrippsmedia.com/ktnv/new...301632721.html

    Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The state attorney general's office has filed a formal complaint against a local man who they suspect of running an illegal gaming site.

    It's the first criminal investigation of its kind in Nevada.

    Police and the Nevada Gaming Control Board are working together to find 36-year-old Bryan Micon. He operated an illegal gaming site.

    They said he quickly fled the country, and now they want to send the message that this kind of crime won't be tolerated in Nevada.

    Attorney General Adam Laxalt, along with the Nevada Gaming Control Board, officially filed a criminal complaint against Micon.

    "The complaint states that Micon's website was never licensed in the State of Nevada," said Laxalt.

    The website, known as Seals with Clubs, is now shutdown, only a message to players to withdrawal funds immediately remains.

    Micon fled the Las Vegas area and investigators think he is in Antigua, but aren't for sure he is still there.

    "Now with technology, someone can put a server anywhere and start operating a very lucrative website, so this is why this is monumental," said Dr. Tony Alamo with the Nevada Gaming Commission.

    Mainly because the Nevada Gaming Commission said people usually follow state gaming laws.

    "It is definitely not an easy process. It's expensive, requires intense investigation and that's what's made Nevada the gold standard. We protect the integrity of gaming," said Alamo.

    To date, there has never been a case of its kind in the state, prosecuting an illegal gaming website using Bitcoin as money, and investigators plan to prosecute to the fullest extent of Nevada law.

    "It sends a message. You will become licensed if you want to participate in gaming in this state. You will be licensed and you will be under the control of the Nevada Gaming Commission Board," Alamo said.

    If you have information about Micon's whereabouts, call Crime Stoppers at (702) 385-5555.
    Is there a reward for information leading to his arrest and conviction?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    If you have information about Micon's whereabouts, call Crime Stoppers at (702) 385-5555.

    Is there a reward for information leading to his arrest and conviction?



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    lol phantom commenting on Facebook chat like a boss


    (prob some fake phantom, but still awesome)


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    when this inevitably blows up in his ass, what the fuck is micon qualified for job-wise when he is on probation?

    guess his comment about working a 9 to 5 during his WSOP interview is the definition of irony at this point...

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    Jewdonk,

    Don't you have some warrants in Nevada too? Funny how you fugitives pile on one another,

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    shame on me for thinking even for one second that was phantom making that post

    get a life topset72 you fucking creep

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