IS SEALS WITH CLUBS DONKDOWN??? (Update: Micon charged with a felony in Nevada)

[Sanlmar]

Before you indulge in all the schadenfreude regarding Micon's legal difficulties......

The wheels of justice turn so very slowly. These could be the greatest 2 years of Micon's life. He will immediately recognize the opportunity to be a Cause célèbre..

WSOP? Can you imagine?

He will finally have the attention and the platform he has dreamed of all his life as a C-list poker personality. You kidding me? Radio, podcasts? Fuck that.. This is an opportunity that exceeds anything he could have deliberately contrived.

He will spend more on his publicist than his lawyer.

Who will be cast as Micon in the movie?

The self described civil liberties Bitcoin/poker martyr.

We will all tune in and the nerds will give generously.

Reread this tomorrow after you shake off the hangover.

You offering me a draw? You killed all the romance this story held and crushed all hope of a good rap battle. I tried to play the upside but it gained no traction here. Just gonna be a lot of piling on.

Hope you at least offer me a GG son.

The WSOP still holds the potential for fun - but it feels like 12%.

My pupils are no longer dilated and I have washed the gin sweat from my face.

So yeah, the Micon story henceforth will just be silent & sad. I will resign early in a lost position.

[adamantium]

jail time is the least of his worries, he got a fucking red headed child ffs

[Dan Druff]

It shouldn't, but that's a different discussion for a different time.

The bottom line is that it IS illegal to run an unlicensed site, and he had a huge advantage in the market because everyone else who would have run a similar site (myself included) did not do so because of its illegal status.

Whether or not you agree with all laws in society, you are expected to follow them. If you choose not to, you can't complain about the consequences.

Basically, you can't just say, "Screw licensing requirements, I'll run my own casino without a license, and then claim I'm being persecuted if I get busted for it."

I get it, but throwing a guy in jail for something that shouldn't be illegal feels a little off, no?

Online poker actually isn't illegal in Nevada. You can play it legally on WSOP.com.

He was charged with running an unlicensed site.

I feel that online gambling DOES need a licensing and regulation process, or otherwise the public will be victimized by countless scams and sites that take the money and run.

And, of course, there is no current legalization for 47 of the 50 states.

But even if you want to take the position that there shouldn't be licensing/regulation and anyone should be able to run any gambling site they want, there currently ARE laws against this, and Micon knew it.

He chose to run the site anyway, and he made a lot of money doing so.

I would have loved to have made that money, as would many other people on this site. We didn't make that money because we chose to respect the current laws, while Micon chose not to.

Authorities are supposed to go after rogue sites like this, or otherwise it makes a mockery of the existing laws, as well as punishes those who are following them.

Simply put, law breakers should never be rewarded over law followers.

[4BET]

I get it, but throwing a guy in jail for something that shouldn't be illegal feels a little off, no?

Online poker actually isn't illegal in Nevada. You can play it legally on WSOP.com.

He was charged with running an unlicensed site.

I feel that online gambling DOES need a licensing and regulation process, or otherwise the public will be victimized by countless scams and sites that take the money and run.

And, of course, there is no current legalization for 47 of the 50 states.

But even if you want to take the position that there shouldn't be licensing/regulation and anyone should be able to run any gambling site they want, there currently ARE laws against this, and Micon knew it.

He chose to run the site anyway, and he made a lot of money doing so.

I would have loved to have made that money, as would many other people on this site. We didn't make that money because we chose to respect the current laws, while Micon chose not to.

Authorities are supposed to go after rogue sites like this, or otherwise it makes a mockery of the existing laws, as well as punishes those who are following them.

Simply put, law breakers should never be rewarded over law followers.

You sure about this? I don't know why he needs 100k from Gofundme if he made all these millions people here think he did

[Daredevil]

Online poker actually isn't illegal in Nevada. You can play it legally on WSOP.com.

He was charged with running an unlicensed site.

I feel that online gambling DOES need a licensing and regulation process, or otherwise the public will be victimized by countless scams and sites that take the money and run.

And, of course, there is no current legalization for 47 of the 50 states.

But even if you want to take the position that there shouldn't be licensing/regulation and anyone should be able to run any gambling site they want, there currently ARE laws against this, and Micon knew it.

He chose to run the site anyway, and he made a lot of money doing so.

I would have loved to have made that money, as would many other people on this site. We didn't make that money because we chose to respect the current laws, while Micon chose not to.

Authorities are supposed to go after rogue sites like this, or otherwise it makes a mockery of the existing laws, as well as punishes those who are following them.

Simply put, law breakers should never be rewarded over law followers.

You sure about this? I don't know why he needs 100k from Gofundme if he made all these millions people here think he did

Obviously no one but Micon knows how much he made. But however much it is, just because he made it, doesn't mean he has it.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Druff is definitely jizz pumping over this one.

But if my best mate also claimed he wished I died of a heart attack. Then I'd also be as giddy as Mr Druff.

Would still like to know who is paler tho.

[chinamaniac]

Online poker actually isn't illegal in Nevada. You can play it legally on WSOP.com.

He was charged with running an unlicensed site.

I feel that online gambling DOES need a licensing and regulation process, or otherwise the public will be victimized by countless scams and sites that take the money and run.

And, of course, there is no current legalization for 47 of the 50 states.

But even if you want to take the position that there shouldn't be licensing/regulation and anyone should be able to run any gambling site they want, there currently ARE laws against this, and Micon knew it.

He chose to run the site anyway, and he made a lot of money doing so.

I would have loved to have made that money, as would many other people on this site. We didn't make that money because we chose to respect the current laws, while Micon chose not to.

Authorities are supposed to go after rogue sites like this, or otherwise it makes a mockery of the existing laws, as well as punishes those who are following them.

Simply put, law breakers should never be rewarded over law followers.

You sure about this? I don't know why he needs 100k from Gofundme if he made all these millions people here think he did

I'm not sure he made millions but based on the amount of volume they were doing and if he was 50 % shareholder he easily could have made a lot of money provided he didn't hoard the bitcoins when they skyrocketed

[Shizzmoney]

Was Chesnoff always his lawyer? I recall seeing a different one in news reports; Chesnoff is a high profile lawyers for many poker players and celebs alike, and this bitcoin case is definitely an eye opener.

[Muck Ficon]

Is there a GoFundMe page to have Micon brought back to the US to face his charges...like a man? I would contribute to that.

[Dan Druff]

The retention of Chesnoff (who is expensive) is interesting because it shows that he is expressing a desire to fight this, rather than just middle-finger everyone and resign himself to staying abroad.

Not sure how he's going to fight this without returning to the US, but I'm guessing he will use Chesnoff as a mouthpiece to basically broker a deal to where he returns to face the music if he is happy enough with the deal they offer.

I have a feeling they will tell him "no dice" with that one, and refuse to deal with him unless he returns. Otherwise it's too much of a freeroll for him, to where he only comes back if they give him a deal he likes, and he doesn't come back if they don't. Too little leverage of the state in such a process, and I doubt they will go for that.

[4BET]

You sure about this? I don't know why he needs 100k from Gofundme if he made all these millions people here think he did

I'm not sure he made millions but based on the amount of volume they were doing and if he was 50 % shareholder he easily could have made a lot of money provided he didn't hoard the bitcoins when they skyrocketed

I think this is the problem, Micon hoarded the coin, He was pimping bitcoin to the moon and back, He didn't have enough commonsense to think of his wife and kids future and cash out big when coin flew over 1k

[Pooh]

The retention of Chesnoff (who is expensive) is interesting because it shows that he is expressing a desire to fight this, rather than just middle-finger everyone and resign himself to staying abroad.

Not sure how he's going to fight this without returning to the US, but I'm guessing he will use Chesnoff as a mouthpiece to basically broker a deal to where he returns to face the music if he is happy enough with the deal they offer.

I have a feeling they will tell him "no dice" with that one, and refuse to deal with him unless he returns. Otherwise it's too much of a freeroll for him, to where he only comes back if they give him a deal he likes, and he doesn't come back if they don't. Too little leverage of the state in such a process, and I doubt they will go for that.

He's paying big bucks for a lawyer who knows what a good deal looks like. A good deal in this case may not necessarily look like a good deal to Micon but he could take it nonetheless if his attorney feels it is. If Micon has as little money as I think he does then any deal that keeps him out of a major prison may be okay. If he gets a few years in a country club type facility then fuck it. Then again, this is Micon we're talking about here.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Pity micon isn't British or European. We kinda have freedom over here.

Rules are rules, right tho Druff?

lol USA, USA

[Dan Druff]

Pity micon isn't British or European. We kinda have freedom over here.

Rules are rules, right tho Druff?

lol USA, USA

The UK allows anyone to start their own online gambling site with no license?

I am no expert on UK law, but I highly doubt that.

[Pooh]

Pity micon isn't British or European. We kinda have freedom over here.

Rules are rules, right tho Druff?

lol USA, USA

i fear you've become pfa's biggest drunk.

[WillieMcFML]

does anyone have a SwC account?

are games still running? any traffic?

[Lord of the Fraud]

Pity micon isn't British or European. We kinda have freedom over here.

Rules are rules, right tho Druff?

lol USA, USA

The UK allows anyone to start their own online gambling site with no license?

I am no expert on UK law, but I highly doubt that.

No we actually just allow people spend their hard earned cheddar as they see fit. We actually don't have corrupt politicians calling the shots on how we use our corn .


Hope allows well on Baltimore tonight.

[Pooh]

The UK allows anyone to start their own online gambling site with no license?

I am no expert on UK law, but I highly doubt that.

No we actually just allow people spend their hard earned cheddar as they see fit. We actually don't have corrupt politicians calling the shots on how we use our corn .


Hope allows well on Baltimore tonight.

let's send you a few n-words over there and you'll change your tune yesterday.

[Lord of the Fraud]

OK my last rant didn't go great. But you cuts need to know I'm playing at a disadvantage here.

[BHS]

Druff you play poker and bet sports on Bovada and other unlicensed operators.

Would you be happy if the USA had online poker in 3 states only?