This game tonight feels like a crazy trap game.
Pinnacle even has -1 still out there with shit odds, and most books have -2.5 or -3
How does Indy not come out guns blazing and win by at least 2 TDS? Sure Tenn is pissed off they lost to Jacksonville, and Fitzpatrick had a decent game.....but
I read a post somewhere awhile back where someone tracked RAS plays at the line they posted and the closing line and it was a huge difference. I know you've said that you have to play their plays right away, but most people cant do that. Howe many people can sit at a cpu 24 hrs a day waiting for plays to be released? Not many, so then back to reality who cares if they win at a line that no one can bet?Originally Posted by chinamaniac
While I am crushing it this year overall , I just opened their site and I can't see how you came up with that based on what you bolded. But thanks for the compliments!!
RAS Straight Plays
2013 college football OVERALL: 49-40 +6.00 55.06% +1.96
COLLEGE BASKETBALL LAST 5 YEARS
W/L Units Win % CLV*
759-582 +128.95 56.60% +1.53
COLLEGE FOOTBALL LAST 5 YEARS
W/L Units Win % CLV*
160-103 +51.00 60.84% +2.06
Last night was a great example they had
Cleve st +6.5
Cal riverside +3
Wyoming +11.5
They claim they went 1-1-1
Closing lines were
Cleve st +6
Cal Riverside +1
Wyoming +9.5
They actually went 1-2
The highest opening line I found for Cal Riverside was +1.5 but they release it at +3. Was there any place in the world it was +3? maybe but I couldnt find it not even +2.
Its obvious they find lines just to exploit. Unless the lines they use are the same lines from the same book everytime (I have no idea) then they are just scamming in a different way.
Lets be generous and say they only use legit lines. If 99% of people cant bet the same exact line as they use every single time it would make you a complete moron to purchase their plays.
Im still trying to figure out last week.
St Louis loses at home to Tenn. Then the next week Tenn loses at home to Jacksonville and St Louis goes into Indy and beats them down.
LOL Tennessee
You tricked us first half.
Hopefully everyone here bet Indy during the game/before the game/at half...anytime.
For the millionith time, THEY are the ones that move the line you fucking idiot. You can look at any books history and compare it to when RAS released their play, and see the EXACT moment that they released it. Everyone that knows anything about sports betting knows they're the only documented long term winner. Ras single handedly has stopped books from offering totals on non-tv college basketball games. For God's sake, earlier in this thread you thought RAS was some guy named Jeff Ras or something, LOL. It's like you just fell off the turnip truck and think you're kind of expert when you're nothing but a joke. You keep talking about some "executive betting" or something that nobody's ever heard of, and you say they've been around since 1984, yet they've only had a website for a year. Since you started posting them they've gone like 4-8 and I'd bet their whole previous record was made up, too. The fact that you were trying to solicit money from members to "buy" their picks makes me even more leary.I read a post somewhere awhile back where someone tracked RAS plays at the line they posted and the closing line and it was a huge difference. I know you've said that you have to play their plays right away, but most people cant do that. Howe many people can sit at a cpu 24 hrs a day waiting for plays to be released? Not many, so then back to reality who cares if they win at a line that no one can bet?
Last night was a great example they had
Cleve st +6.5
Cal riverside +3
Wyoming +11.5
They claim they went 1-1-1
Closing lines were
Cleve st +6
Cal Riverside +1
Wyoming +9.5
They actually went 1-2
The highest opening line I found for Cal Riverside was +1.5 but they release it at +3. Was there any place in the world it was +3? maybe but I couldnt find it not even +2.
Its obvious they find lines just to exploit. Unless the lines they use are the same lines from the same book everytime (I have no idea) then they are just scamming in a different way.
Lets be generous and say they only use legit lines. If 99% of people cant bet the same exact line as they use every single time it would make you a complete moron to purchase their plays.
Also love how you stopped updating your picks in your sig once you started losing every week. I'd love to see how bad you're record really is. Seriously, GTFO.
For the millionith time, THEY are the ones that move the line you fucking idiot. You can look at any books history and compare it to when RAS released their play, and see the EXACT moment that they released it. Everyone that knows anything about sports betting knows they're the only documented long term winner. Ras single handedly has stopped books from offering totals on non-tv college basketball games. For God's sake, earlier in this thread you thought RAS was some guy named Jeff Ras or something, LOL. It's like you just fell off the turnip truck and think you're kind of expert when you're nothing but a joke. You keep talking about some "executive betting" or something that nobody's ever heard of, and you say they've been around since 1984, yet they've only had a website for a year. Since you started posting them they've gone like 4-8 and I'd bet their whole previous record was made up, too. The fact that you were trying to solicit money from members to "buy" their picks makes me even more leary.
Also love how you stopped updating your picks in your sig once you started losing every week. I'd love to see how bad you're record really is. Seriously, GTFO.
Everything here. It is similar to when Billy Walters fires plays. Lines move.
Ras releases plays, xxxx people bet them and the lines move. If you wait longer than 10 secs to fire the play in chances are the line moved a half a point or a point and then can go up to as many as 5 points sometimes.
If you don't have books open and aren't prepared to fire when they release then the service is indeed ineffective. But for professionals or people who want to make money it is very very effective. or if you have a local who uses frozen lines from a certain time u can kill him
it's the same with the guys who kill the props and tout the plays. The props lines move almost instantly after they are released
I read a post somewhere awhile back where someone tracked RAS plays at the line they posted and the closing line and it was a huge difference.-ShadyJ
Of course there is a huge difference. If I were a book and I got all action on one side and I knew where it was coming from I would move the line quickly too wouldn't you?
I know you've said that you have to play their plays right away, but most people cant do that. Howe many people can sit at a cpu 24 hrs a day waiting for plays to be released?- ShadyJ
They release the plays at the same time every day. So if you can't be there then you cant be there!
Not many, so then back to reality who cares if they win at a line that no one can bet? -ShadyJ
Anyone can bet them! Just be at your PC or device you use for betting when plays are released!
Last edited by chinamaniac; 11-15-2013 at 01:07 AM.
They went 4-0 last week for 66-21 76% on the season
I have 3bet on ignore but I read what the loser said through Chinas post.
I've updated every single one of my plays in my signature you stupid fuck. I shouldnt respond to a troll but some people believe the shit they read posted by losers that suck at life. Go back and check my posts I've updated every single one of my plays.
From what I have read they dont release the them at the same time everyday, but I cant be positive since I would never pay for their plays because I cant scower the planet for a certain line to play.
Everything here. It is similar to when Billy Walters fires plays. Lines move.
Ras releases plays, xxxx people bet them and the lines move. If you wait longer than 10 secs to fire the play in chances are the line moved a half a point or a point and then can go up to as many as 5 points sometimes.
If you don't have books open and aren't prepared to fire when they release then the service is indeed ineffective. But for professionals or people who want to make money it is very very effective. or if you have a local who uses frozen lines from a certain time u can kill him
it's the same with the guys who kill the props and tout the plays. The props lines move almost instantly after they are released
I read a post somewhere awhile back where someone tracked RAS plays at the line they posted and the closing line and it was a huge difference.-ShadyJ
Of course there is a huge difference. If I were a book and I got all action on one side and I knew where it was coming from I would move the line quickly too wouldn't you?
I know you've said that you have to play their plays right away, but most people cant do that. Howe many people can sit at a cpu 24 hrs a day waiting for plays to be released?- ShadyJ
They release the plays at the same time every day. So if you can't be there then you cant be there!
Not many, so then back to reality who cares if they win at a line that no one can bet? -ShadyJ
Anyone can bet them! Just be at your PC or device you use for betting when plays are released!
UCLA -2.5
Does any site take bets on Division III games?
My alma mater, DePauw, plays their heated rival Wabash tomorrow.
ncaa 64-51-2 nfl 44-45
tenn -12.5 l
tenn -6.5/no pk teaser l
sd +7 l
no -6 w
sd+13/NO pick w
no-6 w
az -4 lUCLA -2.5 w
ncaa 65-51-2 nfl 47-49
nwestern -3
texas +3
msu -6
oregon state +14.5
central Mich -2
cincy+7.5/ texas +9
msu pk/ texas +9
not that I am aware of
not that I am aware of
Yeah, I've seen the FCS semis, and maybe a div 2 or 3 championship game, but even that's rare. I actually looked at both schools schedule/results, and was going to set a line and give him small action if he wanted it, but with only 2 common opponents, and not knowing fuckall about anyone besides Mount Union and UW Whitewater, I couldn't begin to figure out a correct line. It seemed like Wabash is a more prolific scoring team, but they played their few common opponents similarly.
10 point teaser:
Michigan +3 (-120) (+13)
Indiana +27 (-105) (+37)
Under 41 (-105) Michigan State vs. Nebraska (51)
Like it except for Michigan. I can see this game being close like the Michigan State game for awhile and then the NW pulls away late.
Program is going down the shitter quick and I don't see it turning until Brady Hoke gets a new OC. The last 5 or so games last year Devin Gardner was fantastic. It wasn't a fluke. You can't fool people for that long. So coming into the 2013 season there were high expectations, and rightfully so. How does a player with his talent regress so much? Coaching.
Al Borgess works with him for a full off season and he is awful. Same thing happened with Denard. Obv Denard doesn't have the arm Devin has but Borgess set him up for failure from the start. Running him twice in the first half against Bama last season. Now do I think Denard was going to gash Alabama's D for 150 yards, fuck no. But you don't play Denard Robinson at quarterback and not run him. Could he get broken in half, yes. But its the risk you take.
This year they are horrible up front, which leads to a rushing offense that is 11th and is 10th in sacks given up in the Big Ten.
All the Michigan head coaching job is being a figure head. If Brady wants to just follow traditions, not wear a head set and be the face then thats cool. But you better get the best OC and DC you can get because in the end its his ass on the line.
Sorry for the rant, but this team has been tilting me since Akron.
Curious, where in sports betting do you have to worry about fixes the most? Leave horse racing off the list for obv reasons. That (those) NBA refs come to mind.not that I am aware of
Prob coll hoops. Has happened before. Kids need money etc. Prob easy to get away with at small schoolsCurious, where in sports betting do you have to worry about fixes the most? Leave horse racing off the list for obv reasons. That (those) NBA refs come to mind.
Obviously you havent seen the reports on pop warner in MiamiProb coll hoops. Has happened before. Kids need money etc. Prob easy to get away with at small schools
Can anyone talk me out of pounding Wash st Arizona over 64? It just seems too obvious.
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