*** Official NFL/ NCAA Betting Discussion Thread

[chinamaniac]

I read a post somewhere awhile back where someone tracked RAS plays at the line they posted and the closing line and it was a huge difference. I know you've said that you have to play their plays right away, but most people cant do that. Howe many people can sit at a cpu 24 hrs a day waiting for plays to be released? Not many, so then back to reality who cares if they win at a line that no one can bet?

Last night was a great example they had
Cleve st +6.5
Cal riverside +3
Wyoming +11.5
They claim they went 1-1-1
Closing lines were
Cleve st +6
Cal Riverside +1
Wyoming +9.5
They actually went 1-2
The highest opening line I found for Cal Riverside was +1.5 but they release it at +3. Was there any place in the world it was +3? maybe but I couldnt find it not even +2.
Its obvious they find lines just to exploit. Unless the lines they use are the same lines from the same book everytime (I have no idea) then they are just scamming in a different way.

Lets be generous and say they only use legit lines. If 99% of people cant bet the same exact line as they use every single time it would make you a complete moron to purchase their plays.

For the millionith time, THEY are the ones that move the line you fucking idiot. You can look at any books history and compare it to when RAS released their play, and see the EXACT moment that they released it. Everyone that knows anything about sports betting knows they're the only documented long term winner. Ras single handedly has stopped books from offering totals on non-tv college basketball games. For God's sake, earlier in this thread you thought RAS was some guy named Jeff Ras or something, LOL. It's like you just fell off the turnip truck and think you're kind of expert when you're nothing but a joke. You keep talking about some "executive betting" or something that nobody's ever heard of, and you say they've been around since 1984, yet they've only had a website for a year. Since you started posting them they've gone like 4-8 and I'd bet their whole previous record was made up, too. The fact that you were trying to solicit money from members to "buy" their picks makes me even more leary.

Also love how you stopped updating your picks in your sig once you started losing every week. I'd love to see how bad you're record really is. Seriously, GTFO.

Everything here. It is similar to when Billy Walters fires plays. Lines move.

Ras releases plays, xxxx people bet them and the lines move. If you wait longer than 10 secs to fire the play in chances are the line moved a half a point or a point and then can go up to as many as 5 points sometimes.

If you don't have books open and aren't prepared to fire when they release then the service is indeed ineffective. But for professionals or people who want to make money it is very very effective. or if you have a local who uses frozen lines from a certain time u can kill him

it's the same with the guys who kill the props and tout the plays. The props lines move almost instantly after they are released


I read a post somewhere awhile back where someone tracked RAS plays at the line they posted and the closing line and it was a huge difference.-ShadyJ

Of course there is a huge difference. If I were a book and I got all action on one side and I knew where it was coming from I would move the line quickly too wouldn't you?


I know you've said that you have to play their plays right away, but most people cant do that. Howe many people can sit at a cpu 24 hrs a day waiting for plays to be released?- ShadyJ
They release the plays at the same time every day. So if you can't be there then you cant be there!


Not many, so then back to reality who cares if they win at a line that no one can bet? -ShadyJ

Anyone can bet them! Just be at your PC or device you use for betting when plays are released!