jsearles and Chinamaniac debate about the value of his WSOP pieces

[jsearles22]

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????


FFS kid, didnt you try thing angle yesterday? The bet is crystal clear to me, but obviously is being interpreted differently by differing parties (youreself included). Even I am not naive enough to sit here and proclaim the bet is clear to everyone involved! Its clear to me however, and I will stand by my interpretation.

It's not an angle when I post every damn word you said.

Then why didn't you say that when you responded to my post??? You seem to like to rewrite history. You FULL response is posted above it clearly shows your agreement with me. You never say, "while I don't agree with this" or anything along those lines.

It fully shows that I agree with you in reference to MY interpretation. I also acknowledge that you personally think there are other interpretations in addition to my interpretation. How is that hard for you to understand? You think there are multiple interpretations and I agree with one of those.

[Steve-O]

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????


FFS kid, didnt you try thing angle yesterday? The bet is crystal clear to me, but obviously is being interpreted differently by differing parties (youreself included). Even I am not naive enough to sit here and proclaim the bet is clear to everyone involved! Its clear to me however, and I will stand by my interpretation.

It's not an angle when I post every damn word you said.

Then why didn't you say that when you responded to my post??? You seem to like to rewrite history. You FULL response is posted above it clearly shows your agreement with me. You never say, "while I don't agree with this" or anything along those lines.It fully shows that I agree with you in reference to MY interpretation. I also acknowledge that you personally think there are other interpretations in addition to my interpretation. How is that hard for you to understand? You think there are multiple interpretations and I agree with one of those.

Because that's not what you said. Again you have reading comprehension issues, and are simply trying to rewrite your own forum history...

I highly recommend you become familiar with this quote attributed to Mark Twain: "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." You sir have a lot to remember at the moment

[jsearles22]

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????


FFS kid, didnt you try thing angle yesterday? The bet is crystal clear to me, but obviously is being interpreted differently by differing parties (youreself included). Even I am not naive enough to sit here and proclaim the bet is clear to everyone involved! Its clear to me however, and I will stand by my interpretation.

It's not an angle when I post every damn word you said.

Then why didn't you say that when you responded to my post??? You seem to like to rewrite history. You FULL response is posted above it clearly shows your agreement with me. You never say, "while I don't agree with this" or anything along those lines.It fully shows that I agree with you in reference to MY interpretation. I also acknowledge that you personally think there are other interpretations in addition to my interpretation. How is that hard for you to understand? You think there are multiple interpretations and I agree with one of those.

Because that's not what you said. Again you have reading comprehension issues, and are simply trying to rewrite your own forum history...

I highly recommend you become familiar with this quote attributed to Mark Twain: "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." You sir have a lot to remember at the moment

I disagree that my original reply states that I agree with you on every single interpretation. I do agree that some people are interpreting this bet differently, that much is obvious. I never stated "I dont agree with this" because I do agree that there are seemingly multiple interpretations. I dont have to agree with each interpretatoin to acknowledge that they exist. I dont have to agree with the points of both republicans and democrats. I would be foolish to disagree with someone that says both parties have differing views!

[Steve-O]

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????


FFS kid, didnt you try thing angle yesterday? The bet is crystal clear to me, but obviously is being interpreted differently by differing parties (youreself included). Even I am not naive enough to sit here and proclaim the bet is clear to everyone involved! Its clear to me however, and I will stand by my interpretation.

It's not an angle when I post every damn word you said.

Then why didn't you say that when you responded to my post??? You seem to like to rewrite history. You FULL response is posted above it clearly shows your agreement with me. You never say, "while I don't agree with this" or anything along those lines.It fully shows that I agree with you in reference to MY interpretation. I also acknowledge that you personally think there are other interpretations in addition to my interpretation. How is that hard for you to understand? You think there are multiple interpretations and I agree with one of those.

Because that's not what you said. Again you have reading comprehension issues, and are simply trying to rewrite your own forum history...

I highly recommend you become familiar with this quote attributed to Mark Twain: "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." You sir have a lot to remember at the moment


I disagree that my original reply states that I agree with you on every single interpretation. I do agree that some people are interpreting this bet differently, that much is obvious. I never stated "I dont agree with this" because I do agree that there are seemingly multiple interpretations. I dont have to agree with each interpretatoin to acknowledge that they exist. I dont have to agree with the points of both republicans and democrats. I would be foolish to disagree with someone that says both parties have differing views!

****EDIT___________________________________ Posts are getting wonky***

Then why have you been arguing this? That Vegas agreed to your interpretation of the bet? You can't keep your story straight: A couple posts back you said:

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Now you admit that there are multiple interpretations:

I do agree that there are seemingly multiple interpretations.

[jsearles22]

Im not sure what is up with the formatting so lets start this over.

There are clearly multiple interpretations of the bet otherwise there would not be an argument at all. I think my interpretation is correct and Vegas and others think his is correct. You simply acknowledged that there are multiple interpretations. I agree that there are multiple interpretations. Capiche?

[Deal]

Steve-O, there is a reason they have a segregated competition named the Special Olympics. It's just not fair for you to be beating this donkey up repeatedly. Time to shut it down and let Vegas or Druff decide how to handle the angle shooting welcher.

[Steve-O]

Im not sure what is up with the formatting so lets start this over.

There are clearly multiple interpretations of the bet otherwise there would not be an argument at all. I think my interpretation is correct and Vegas and others think his is correct. You simply acknowledged that there are multiple interpretations. I agree that there are multiple interpretations. Capiche?

Lovely, but this is third time you've Romney'ed this issue. Look one post above your last one and find the two contradictory statements (trust me it's not hard). Every time you get painted into a corner you act like the floor is dry and that those aren't your footprints. At least you've finally seen the light and admitted that you have no leg to stand on thinking you won the bet (which is 100% what you just agreed to with your admission of multiple interpretations in your last post) so can we now move on to if Vegas is entitled to anything?

[Steve-O]

Steve-O, there is a reason they have a segregated competition named the Special Olympics. It's just not fair for you to be beating this donkey up repeatedly. Time to shut it down and let Vegas or Druff decide how to handle the angle shooting welcher.

I'm bored, I work from home (which means I have a lot of free time), and I like to debate; it's all good.

Personally, I think he is doing alright, and actually has a valid arguement for the cancellation of the bet, or a reduction in the amount of it... like I said 200 posts ago

I just find the idea that he won the bet laughable

[vegas1369]

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct, but with 15 posts before it clarifying what the spirit of the wager is than it would be clear.

I tried to see if a day in between would have you come to your senses, but since it hasn't (and you ared still somehow making the claim you won the bet) I'll once again bow out of the conversation, since I'm making more progress debating my desk.

You continue to make the salacious 15 posts before claim and that is simply a fabrication. There were 3 total posts discussing the bet before Vegas made his now infamous offer. Just because there are other posts in this thread, they literally had nothing to do with this bet.

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Excellent breakdown sir.

Anyone that reads this and concludes that this fool doesn't owe me $500 needs to have their head examined.

[jsearles22]

Im not sure what is up with the formatting so lets start this over.

There are clearly multiple interpretations of the bet otherwise there would not be an argument at all. I think my interpretation is correct and Vegas and others think his is correct. You simply acknowledged that there are multiple interpretations. I agree that there are multiple interpretations. Capiche?

Lovely, but this is third time you've Romney'ed this issue. Look one post above your last one and find the two contradictory statements (trust me it's not hard). Every time you get painted into a corner you act like the floor is dry and that those aren't your footprints. At least you've finally seen the light and admitted that you have no leg to stand on thinking you won the bet (which is 100% what you just agreed to with your admission of multiple interpretations in your last post) so can we now move on to if Vegas is entitled to anything?

We seemingly have a disagreement on multiple interpretations. Is it even disputable that everyone doesnt agree on this bet? I am acknowledging the differing opinions. I am staking a claim to my opinion being correct. Im not sure what you are trying to get at? Clearly Vegas doesnt agree with my opinion and I dont agree with his opinion (or interpretation which are seemingly one in the same here).

If I am not entitled anything under the multiple interpretations designation, how could Vegas possibly be? You seriously think that I will just say "yep, this is interpreted differently so I relinquish all claims. Now even though its interpreted differently and that voids my claim, lets discuss Vegas's claim which is somehow not juxtipose to the same multiple claim theory."

[jsearles22]

Steve-O, there is a reason they have a segregated competition named the Special Olympics. It's just not fair for you to be beating this donkey up repeatedly. Time to shut it down and let Vegas or Druff decide how to handle the angle shooting welcher.

I'm bored, I work from home (which means I have a lot of free time), and I like to debate; it's all good.

Personally, I think he is doing alright, and actually has a valid arguement for the cancellation of the bet, or a reduction in the amount of it... like I said 200 posts ago

I just find the idea that he won the bet laughable

Would you also find the idea that Vegas won the bet laughable then? If not, please state why not and how that differs from my position.

[Steve-O]

Lovely, but this is third time you've Romney'ed this issue. Look one post above your last one and find the two contradictory statements (trust me it's not hard). Every time you get painted into a corner you act like the floor is dry and that those aren't your footprints. At least you've finally seen the light and admitted that you have no leg to stand on thinking you won the bet (which is 100% what you just agreed to with your admission of multiple interpretations in your last post) so can we now move on to if Vegas is entitled to anything?

We seemingly have a disagreement on multiple interpretations. Is it even disputable that everyone doesnt agree on this bet? I am acknowledging the differing opinions. I am staking a claim to my opinion being correct. Im not sure what you are trying to get at? Clearly Vegas doesnt agree with my opinion and I dont agree with his opinion (or interpretation which are seemingly one in the same here).

If I am not entitled anything under the multiple interpretations designation, how could Vegas possibly be? You seriously think that I will just say "yep, this is interpreted differently so I relinquish all claims. Now even though its interpreted differently and that voids my claim, lets discuss Vegas's claim which is somehow not juxtipose to the same multiple claim theory."

Because you are the only person with this interpretation, it's not just your opinion vs. Vegas; it's you vs. the entire community. Myself and Tony B. both feel you have a point with your contention, and there is a technicality at play. BUT to think your case is as strong as Vegas' is like saying the New England Patriots and the Jacksonville Jaguars have the same chance to win the Super Bowl because they are both NFL Teams.

[vegas1369]

Lovely, but this is third time you've Romney'ed this issue. Look one post above your last one and find the two contradictory statements (trust me it's not hard). Every time you get painted into a corner you act like the floor is dry and that those aren't your footprints. At least you've finally seen the light and admitted that you have no leg to stand on thinking you won the bet (which is 100% what you just agreed to with your admission of multiple interpretations in your last post) so can we now move on to if Vegas is entitled to anything?

We seemingly have a disagreement on multiple interpretations. Is it even disputable that everyone doesnt agree on this bet? I am acknowledging the differing opinions. I am staking a claim to my opinion being correct. Im not sure what you are trying to get at? Clearly Vegas doesnt agree with my opinion and I dont agree with his opinion (or interpretation which are seemingly one in the same here).

If I am not entitled anything under the multiple interpretations designation, how could Vegas possibly be? You seriously think that I will just say "yep, this is interpreted differently so I relinquish all claims. Now even though its interpreted differently and that voids my claim, lets discuss Vegas's claim which is somehow not juxtipose to the same multiple claim theory."

[Sloppy Joe]

Lovely, but this is third time you've Romney'ed this issue. Look one post above your last one and find the two contradictory statements (trust me it's not hard). Every time you get painted into a corner you act like the floor is dry and that those aren't your footprints. At least you've finally seen the light and admitted that you have no leg to stand on thinking you won the bet (which is 100% what you just agreed to with your admission of multiple interpretations in your last post) so can we now move on to if Vegas is entitled to anything?

We seemingly have a disagreement on multiple interpretations. Is it even disputable that everyone doesnt agree on this bet? I am acknowledging the differing opinions. I am staking a claim to my opinion being correct. Im not sure what you are trying to get at? Clearly Vegas doesnt agree with my opinion and I dont agree with his opinion (or interpretation which are seemingly one in the same here).

If I am not entitled anything under the multiple interpretations designation, how could Vegas possibly be? You seriously think that I will just say "yep, this is interpreted differently so I relinquish all claims. Now even though its interpreted differently and that voids my claim, lets discuss Vegas's claim which is somehow not juxtipose to the same multiple claim theory."

[lewfather]

Searles if Druff rules in Vegas's favor are you prepared to pay?

Im waiting on Shaun Deeb to be honest with you.

[Steve-O]

Progress at last! So the new question is:

Vegas what will it take for you to make this issue go away? Let's start the negotiation at Vegas wants $500, and JSearles feels the bet should cancelled. Is anybody willing to move??????

[jsearles22]

You continue to make the salacious 15 posts before claim and that is simply a fabrication. There were 3 total posts discussing the bet before Vegas made his now infamous offer. Just because there are other posts in this thread, they literally had nothing to do with this bet.

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Excellent breakdown sir.

Anyone that reads this and concludes that this fool doesn't owe me $500 needs to have their head examined.

Personally, I think he is doing alright, and actually has a valid arguement for the cancellation of the bet, or a reduction in the amount of it... like I said 200 posts ago

This will not be a popular decision, but I believe that both Vegas and Searles agreed to different bets, therefore the bet should be voided and cancelled.

So of the thre guys you originally mentioned, 2 have chimed in and neither feel I owe you $500. Do they both need their heads examined?

[jsearles22]

Progress at last! So the new question is:

Vegas what will it take for you to make this issue go away? Let's start the negotiation at Vegas wants $500, and JSearles feels the bet should cancelled. Is anybody willing to move??????

I am willing to move. Jsearles22 wants $500 assuming Vegas does not complete the bet by time the 48 hrs runs out

[pavoe]

Sure didnt take you very long to become biased.

Nice well thought out response too. If you want to jump into the deep end of the pool, maybe you should at least wear floaties.

what made you think that i am not biased? i stated my opinion on you in my first post. pretty clear that i dont like a person who acts this way.

i just said that i dont know them. reread my post.

and your '24h? it was a joke-answer' is just a joke.

[lewfather]