jsearles and Chinamaniac debate about the value of his WSOP pieces

[jsearles22]

sure, it was a joke...

wait - you are the joke

Sure didnt take you very long to become biased.

Nice well thought out response too. If you want to jump into the deep end of the pool, maybe you should at least wear floaties.

[peter mcneil]

sure, it was a joke...

wait - you are the joke

Sure didnt take you very long to become biased.

Nice well thought out response too. If you want to jump into the deep end of the pool, maybe you should at least wear floaties.

people are biased because you come across horribly in this thread. At the very best (for you) you are an angle shooter and thought you could trick someone into making a bet based on some wording technicality (bet intent is crystal clear here) and at worst you're a straight up scammer and a scum bag. A forum greatly made up of poker players and gamblers has no room for dirt bags like you. Looking forward to Druff getting in here and giving his break down.

[jsearles22]

Sure didnt take you very long to become biased.

Nice well thought out response too. If you want to jump into the deep end of the pool, maybe you should at least wear floaties.

people are biased because you come across horribly in this thread. At the very best (for you) you are an angle shooter and thought you could trick someone into making a bet based on some wording technicality (bet intent is crystal clear here) and at worst you're a straight up scammer and a scum bag. A forum greatly made up of poker players and gamblers has no room for dirt bags like you. Looking forward to Druff getting in here and giving his break down.

Its hard for me to trick someone into making a bet that they offered. If anything, IMO, Vegas was trying to trick me.

"A forum greatly made up of poker players and gamblers "
Yeah, the real cream of the crop..............

[Steve-O]

Congratulations folks, you are now reading the most replied to thread in PFA history!

Steve, I agree that intent is of the utmost importance. I intend/ed to win a bet regarding if Vegas could find posts containing misuses of "those two words."

You analogy is again poor. Please respond to my analogy. If you offered me $100 and told me to get a picture of "those two having sex" isnt it implied that you mean together? When you use a phrase such as that you cant then later seperate the two.

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct, but with 15 posts before it clarifying what the spirit of the wager is than it would be clear.

I tried to see if a day in between would have you come to your senses, but since it hasn't (and you ared still somehow making the claim you won the bet) I'll once again bow out of the conversation, since I'm making more progress debating my desk.

You continue to make the salacious 15 posts before claim and that is simply a fabrication. There were 3 total posts discussing the bet before Vegas made his now infamous offer. Just because there are other posts in this thread, they literally had nothing to do with this bet.

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

[jsearles22]

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct, but with 15 posts before it clarifying what the spirit of the wager is than it would be clear.

I tried to see if a day in between would have you come to your senses, but since it hasn't (and you ared still somehow making the claim you won the bet) I'll once again bow out of the conversation, since I'm making more progress debating my desk.

You continue to make the salacious 15 posts before claim and that is simply a fabrication. There were 3 total posts discussing the bet before Vegas made his now infamous offer. Just because there are other posts in this thread, they literally had nothing to do with this bet.

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

"If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

I didnt feel it was necessary frankly. Vegas made the offer. I felt compelled to clarify with Crowe because he very well may have misunderstood what out bet was. I didnt feel this was the case with Vegas.

[Steve-O]

You continue to make the salacious 15 posts before claim and that is simply a fabrication. There were 3 total posts discussing the bet before Vegas made his now infamous offer. Just because there are other posts in this thread, they literally had nothing to do with this bet.

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

***EDIT***

"If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

I didnt feel it was necessary frankly. Vegas made the offer. I felt compelled to clarify with Crowe because he very well may have misunderstood what out bet was. I didnt feel this was the case with Vegas.

You've just lost complete credibility with me

[Sandwich]

Thank you, Steve-O, for reposting all of those quotes for the "record". I think if we can all agree that all of these posts AFTER that are merely argument after the fact.
The fact that jsearles snap-clarified with Crowe about the bet's terms while trying to screw Vegas with the same ambiguity is interesting. It smacks of the "dollhairs" or "toy yoda" foolishness. There was no "meeting of the minds" between jsearles22 and Vegas.

[jsearles22]

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

[Sandwich]

You've just lost complete credibility with me

At this point, he would probably settle for partial credibility with you.

[LLL]

Druff obviously loves the drama since he hasn't made a clear statement regarding this since yesterday.

[jsearles22]

Thank you, Steve-O, for reposting all of those quotes for the "record". I think if we can all agree that all of these posts AFTER that are merely argument after the fact.
The fact that jsearles snap-clarified with Crowe about the bet's terms while trying to screw Vegas with the same ambiguity is interesting. It smacks of the "dollhairs" or "toy yoda" foolishness. There was no "meeting of the minds" between jsearles22 and Vegas.

I didnt feel it was necessary frankly. Vegas made the offer. I felt compelled to clarify with Crowe because he very well may have misunderstood what our bet was. I didnt feel this was the case with Vegas.

[Steve-O]

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????

[Insert condescending Wonka picture with catchy slogan]

[jsearles22]

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????


FFS kid, didnt you try thing angle yesterday? The bet is crystal clear to me, but obviously is being interpreted differently by differing parties (youreself included). Even I am not naive enough to sit here and proclaim the bet is clear to everyone involved! Its clear to me however, and I will stand by my interpretation.

[lewfather]

Searles if Druff rules in Vegas's favor are you prepared to pay?

[jsearles22]

Searles if Druff rules in Vegas's favor are you prepared to pay?

Im waiting on Shaun Deeb to be honest with you.

[tony bagadonuts]

Insert condescending Wonka picture with catchy slogan

Ok

[Steve-O]

Searles if Druff rules in Vegas's favor are you prepared to pay?

Im waiting on Shaun Deeb to be honest with you.

Than you're drawing dead, prop bettors no like angles

[tony bagadonuts]

Im waiting on Shaun Deeb to be honest with you.

Than you're drawing dead, prop bettors no like angles

I see what you did there

[Steve-O]

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????

Notice how in every single thing you are quoting there is always the mention of errors? Its always multiple, the terms discussed always points to there needing to be more then one. This is precisely in line with the bet offered, IMO.

Its plural because the number(s) before it is 15 or 25!

Your original terms were for a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on it. I say you have 1 day to find your panel and let them rule

You say there was never a mention of there needing to be both errors in the same post, I counter with there was clearly never a mention that only one word must be incorrect in each offending post. Absent either of those clarifications we can only fall back on the original offer.

where you have used those two words incorrectly?

This cant be any more clear to me. The bet offer was to find posts using those two words incorrectly. Not one of those words, not either of those words, but those two words.

Really, then why did you resond to my initial post on this by saying that there are multiple interpreatations??? Spin away sir...

Damn it Steve-O, why did you weigh in before you could be accepted as a fair and impartial judge?

The first level headed person to weigh in acknowledges that the bet can be interpreted multiple ways. Although he ultimately sides with Vegas, he attempts to mitigate the loss amount by acknowledging that the bet was not clear and concise per both parties.

The fact of the matter is that I accepted the bet on the premise that both words would be used in the same post as this is precisely what was offered. Steve-O acknowledges that this is a legit interpretation.

Druff, T-bags, Shaun Deeb, etc please weigh in so I can make my decision and get this thing ended.

Now you are saying something completely different: Your new arguement is that the bet was crystal clear???????


FFS kid, didnt you try thing angle yesterday? The bet is crystal clear to me, but obviously is being interpreted differently by differing parties (youreself included). Even I am not naive enough to sit here and proclaim the bet is clear to everyone involved! Its clear to me however, and I will stand by my interpretation.

It's not an angle when I post every damn word you said.

Then why didn't you say that when you responded to my post??? You seem to like to rewrite history. You FULL response is posted above it clearly shows your agreement with me. You never say, "while I don't agree with this" or anything along those lines.

[MrGreenThumb]