jsearles and Chinamaniac debate about the value of his WSOP pieces

[jsearles22]

I wonder what the good truthseeker Asian Spa thinks of this. Mayhap I shall inquire...

Searles, please expalin who you would consider a fair and impartial arbitrator? What type of experience/credentials do they need to have?

Someone of high moral standing who is free from any influence by anyone involved. Typically these types of people are paid to perform the job. The mere act of them doing this as a favor for anyone automatically implies they are linked to one side or the other.

The bigger point is how can an arbitrator decide what my reasoning or intent was? How can they tell me I didn't intend for the bet to be about both words in one post? This isn't a popularity contest. Just because everyone is siding with Vegas doesn't mean he didn't erroneously make a poor offer. Playing the popularity contest and the "you know what I meant" angles is weak sauce.

[jsearles22]

let it be known that jsearles and vegas are both idiots.

[bukowski72]

My choice is Johnny Hughes,

Johnny Hughes LOL. I posted earlier in this thread to just mark him a scammer and ban him from both forums. I wrote that before he made it a super obvious angle shoot.

Forget the money. This guy has to be backed to play low limit poker. He wasn't shipping $500 to anyone for anything. He is probably going to take his wife to Arby's for dinner and that is if jsearles can find the coupons in the glove box.

No reason to chase him down. We all knew jsearles was a turd. Just let him fade away.

[John Stamos]

Searles, please expalin who you would consider a fair and impartial arbitrator? What type of experience/credentials do they need to have?

Someone of high moral standing who is free from any influence by anyone involved. Typically these types of people are paid to perform the job. The mere act of them doing this as a favor for anyone automatically implies they are linked to one side or the other.

The bigger point is how can an arbitrator decide what my reasoning or intent was? How can they tell me I didn't intend for the bet to be about both words in one post? This isn't a popularity contest. Just because everyone is siding with Vegas doesn't mean he didn't erroneously make a poor offer. Playing the popularity contest and the "you know what I meant" angles is weak sauce.

I haven't read any of this thread yet but I would arbitrate anything people need arbitrated on this site.

Edit: I am serious also, I think Drexel can vouch for me that I am a well-spoken and impartial person that would think both sides through clearly. Also I don't participate on the forums as often as I probably should so I really don't know what's going on.

[peter mcneil]

Searles, please expalin who you would consider a fair and impartial arbitrator? What type of experience/credentials do they need to have?

Someone of high moral standing who is free from any influence by anyone involved. Typically these types of people are paid to perform the job. The mere act of them doing this as a favor for anyone automatically implies they are linked to one side or the other.

The bigger point is how can an arbitrator decide what my reasoning or intent was? How can they tell me I didn't intend for the bet to be about both words in one post? This isn't a popularity contest. Just because everyone is siding with Vegas doesn't mean he didn't erroneously make a poor offer. Playing the popularity contest and the "you know what I meant[" angles is weak sauce.

so now it appears as though you wont even agree to a fair and impartial arbitrator?

[Jasep]

Someone of high moral standing who is free from any influence by anyone involved. Typically these types of people are paid to perform the job. The mere act of them doing this as a favor for anyone automatically implies they are linked to one side or the other.

The bigger point is how can an arbitrator decide what my reasoning or intent was? How can they tell me I didn't intend for the bet to be about both words in one post? This isn't a popularity contest. Just because everyone is siding with Vegas doesn't mean he didn't erroneously make a poor offer. Playing the popularity contest and the "you know what I meant[" angles is weak sauce.

so now it appears as though you wont even agree to a fair and impartial arbitrator?

[I V]

Even if by some miracle whoever decides on this thing happens to side with you do you honestly think that's it for you? Do you think you can make a single post without someone mentioning how your an angle shooting scum bag? Do you think you will be able to beg for a stake again? Do you think no one from this site will follow you to PTP to point out your angle shooting to that community? Do you honestly think Lewfathers pursuit starts and ends with facebook? Do you think your name will be able to be googled without some mention of you being shaddy? Have you even ever paid attention to the level people will go to when provoked?

Even if by some lightning in a bottle act of god you wind up getting ruled as the winner of this bet there is still no way you ever come out ahead in this situation.

You seem to be relenting to the fact that I have an argument no?

1. You seem to think I care what others say or call me here? I know im right and I will stand by that
2. Never begged for a stake yet and dont intend to.
3. Havent been on PTP in months. Havent played much online. As many of you are well aware I am a recreational donk. Attacking my poker cred is pretty LOL at best
4. Pretty sure no one of any importance is googling my name and finding anything.
5. People get pretty butt hurt over the internet. Lewfather is playing this kamikaze vigilant character like I have done something to him personally. Its kind of funny, kind of sad
6. If I am ruled the winner I wont get paid either, does that mean Vegas will be called the scammer and you wont allow him to be part of your new community. Dont dodge the question, just answer it straight up. I have given you that same courtesy

#6 seems to imply that you have no intention of paying Vegas and will be called a scammer if an arbitrator rules in his favor. Is that the case? Please say it ain't so!
If you are concerned about not getting paid why don't you escrow with druff and demand that vegas do the same? You do realize this would make him the bad guy if he refuses?

[nunbeater]

Even if by some miracle whoever decides on this thing happens to side with you do you honestly think that's it for you? Do you think you can make a single post without someone mentioning how your an angle shooting scum bag? Do you think you will be able to beg for a stake again? Do you think no one from this site will follow you to PTP to point out your angle shooting to that community? Do you honestly think Lewfathers pursuit starts and ends with facebook? Do you think your name will be able to be googled without some mention of you being shaddy? Have you even ever paid attention to the level people will go to when provoked?

Even if by some lightning in a bottle act of god you wind up getting ruled as the winner of this bet there is still no way you ever come out ahead in this situation.

6. If I am ruled the winner I wont get paid either, does that mean Vegas will be called the scammer and you wont allow him to be part of your new community. Dont dodge the question, just answer it straight up. I have given you that same courtesy

If you are ruled the winner I believe that Vegas would pay you. That statement shows me that you were on a freeroll the whole time though. You never planned on paying him so you just assume that he wouldn't pay you, because that is how the mind of a scumbag works. Kind of like when your girl bitches at you every night about fucking other broads and then you find out that she is the one fucking someone else. That is you.

[jsearles22]

Someone of high moral standing who is free from any influence by anyone involved. Typically these types of people are paid to perform the job. The mere act of them doing this as a favor for anyone automatically implies they are linked to one side or the other.

The bigger point is how can an arbitrator decide what my reasoning or intent was? How can they tell me I didn't intend for the bet to be about both words in one post? This isn't a popularity contest. Just because everyone is siding with Vegas doesn't mean he didn't erroneously make a poor offer. Playing the popularity contest and the "you know what I meant[" angles is weak sauce.

so now it appears as though you wont even agree to a fair and impartial arbitrator?

I didn't say that. I just want it to be clear what the disagreement is. Vegas clearly found 25 single misuses. I made the bet solely on the premise of it being 2 errors per post. Someone could declare I was angle shooting, but they can't tell me I didn't agree to something that I knowingly agreed to?!?!?

[Jasep]

You seem to be relenting to the fact that I have an argument no?

1. You seem to think I care what others say or call me here? I know im right and I will stand by that
I know you are an angleshooter as does everyone else here.

2. Never begged for a stake yet and dont intend to.
Yes, the "Stake me Bro" pic that you cry and complain about has no back story at all

3. Havent been on PTP in months. Havent played much online. As many of you are well aware I am a recreational donk. Attacking my poker cred is pretty LOL at best
Hope it was a permanent separation for you

4. Pretty sure no one of any importance is googling my name and finding anything.
Not yet maybe... but someone will someday

5. People get pretty butt hurt over the internet. Lewfather is playing this kamikaze vigilant character like I have done something to him personally. Its kind of funny, kind of sad.
Lewfather has a history of escalating things, your best leaving that one alone

6. If I am ruled the winner I wont get paid either, does that mean Vegas will be called the scammer and you wont allow him to be part of your new community. Dont dodge the question, just answer it straight up. I have given you that same courtesy
If a true impartial judge, that is appointed by Druff, Steve-O or someone other than a confirmed angle shooter rules in favor of you than you will get your money, I personally vouch for that... are you willing to do the same?

Don't dodge the question, just answer it straight up Jason

[jsearles22]

6. If I am ruled the winner I wont get paid either, does that mean Vegas will be called the scammer and you wont allow him to be part of your new community. Dont dodge the question, just answer it straight up. I have given you that same courtesy

If you are ruled the winner I believe that Vegas would pay you. That statement shows me that you were on a freeroll the whole time though. You never planned on paying him so you just assume that he wouldn't pay you, because that is how the mind of a scumbag works. Kind of like when your girl bitches at you every night about fucking other broads and then you find out that she is the one fucking someone else. That is you.

If he found 25 double misuses then I pay 100%. I still will, he has over 24 hrs left.

[jsearles22]

Don't dodge the question, just answer it straight up Jason

You didn't even answer my question! If I win and Vegas doesn't pay then will he be labeled a scammer and allowed to moderate your forum?

[nunbeater]

If you are ruled the winner I believe that Vegas would pay you. That statement shows me that you were on a freeroll the whole time though. You never planned on paying him so you just assume that he wouldn't pay you, because that is how the mind of a scumbag works. Kind of like when your girl bitches at you every night about fucking other broads and then you find out that she is the one fucking someone else. That is you.

If he found 25 double misuses then I pay 100%. I still will, he has over 24 hrs left.

Not the point. The point is, you figure that he would welch and not pay......because that is what your plan was. I would put money on Vegas paying if he lost the bet. You? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

[jsearles22]

If he found 25 double misuses then I pay 100%. I still will, he has over 24 hrs left.

Not the point. The point is, you figure that he would welch and not pay......because that is what your plan was. I would put money on Vegas paying if he lost the bet. You? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

That's patently false sir. I was and will pay if 25 double misuses are found. I expected and still expect him to reciprocate otherwise.

[Jasep]

Don't dodge the question, just answer it straight up Jason

You didn't even answer my question! If I win and Vegas doesn't pay then will he be labeled a scammer and allowed to moderate your forum?

I completely answered it 100% you fucking idiot....

If you are ruled the winner of this bet by an impartial arbitrator appointed by anyone but you (because you have pretty much admitted that you are an angle shooter, and have shown your complete lack of character) there is zero chance you don't get paid.

If Vegas is ruled the winner via the same method will he 100% get paid, yes or no is all that is required.

[I V]

Not the point. The point is, you figure that he would welch and not pay......because that is what your plan was. I would put money on Vegas paying if he lost the bet. You? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

That's patently false sir. I was and will pay if 25 double misuses are found. I expected and still expect him to reciprocate otherwise.

Why won't you escrow then? Make him the bad guy!!!!

[RichardBrodiesCombover.]

I understand this is not DD but jsearles has done more than enough to earn himself a custom avatar and title.

[jsearles22]

You didn't even answer my question! If I win and Vegas doesn't pay then will he be labeled a scammer and allowed to moderate your forum?

I completely answered it 100% you fucking idiot....

If you are ruled the winner of this bet by an impartial arbitrator appointed by anyone but you (because you have pretty much admitted that you are an angle shooter, and have shown your complete lack of character) there is zero chance you don't get paid.

If Vegas is ruled the winner via the same method will he 100% get paid, yes or no is all that is required.

Not good at reading comprehension? The question is based on him not paying so you can't just discount that possibility.

Here, I will answer your question in the same bullshit manner. No one would ever rule against me via a fair arbitration.

[jsearles22]

That's patently false sir. I was and will pay if 25 double misuses are found. I expected and still expect him to reciprocate otherwise.

Why won't you escrow then? Make him the bad guy!!!!

I will do so if a fair escrowee agrees that the bet is regarding double misuses

[peter mcneil]

I completely answered it 100% you fucking idiot....

If you are ruled the winner of this bet by an impartial arbitrator appointed by anyone but you (because you have pretty much admitted that you are an angle shooter, and have shown your complete lack of character) there is zero chance you don't get paid.

If Vegas is ruled the winner via the same method will he 100% get paid, yes or no is all that is required.

Not good at reading comprehension? The question is based on him not paying so you can't just discount that possibility.

Here, I will answer your question in the same bullshit manner. No one would ever rule against me via a fair arbitration.

then you should be more than comfortable to escrow the money and let this go to a fair and impartial abritrator.