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    Quote Originally Posted by haleylh View Post
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    Geesh Haley...I get attacked every single day. When you're out there in public, it comes with the territory.

    Promising a vengeful, retaliatory piece probably isn't the best way to get Pappas to sit down for an interview. He may think he won't get a fair shake, for some reason. Just sayin'.

    He offered an interview, not a forum debate.
    That's LOL bad funny, Rich. My questions might have been tough, but there was absolutely nothing unfair about them, and I have no interest in being spin-doctored into oblivion. There was no "debate" planned, and a written interview format is very legitimate, though of course you know that.

    Seems like "no holds barred" wasn't really the plan, eh?
    Looks like Pappas is practicing avoidance. Simple questions posted on a forum and the guy has obv read them and will not respond

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by haleylh View Post

    That's LOL bad funny, Rich. My questions might have been tough, but there was absolutely nothing unfair about them, and I have no interest in being spin-doctored into oblivion. There was no "debate" planned, and a written interview format is very legitimate, though of course you know that.

    Seems like "no holds barred" wasn't really the plan, eh?
    Looks like Pappas is practicing avoidance. Simple questions posted on a forum and the guy has obv read them and will not respond
    I guess it now makes sense why Pappas was practicing that avoidance:

    http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...tars-Full-Tilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Looks like Pappas is practicing avoidance. Simple questions posted on a forum and the guy has obv read them and will not respond
    I guess it now makes sense why Pappas was practicing that avoidance:

    http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...tars-Full-Tilt
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    Quote Originally Posted by donfairplay View Post
    IRS form 990, poker players alliance, tax year 2010 income: membership dues $50,290; other contributions $5,211,337.
    I believe on radio Rich said something like individual contributions made up less than half, but these numbers really surprise me. Can this be confirmed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by donfairplay View Post
    IRS form 990, poker players alliance, tax year 2010 income: membership dues $50,290; other contributions $5,211,337.
    I believe on radio Rich said something like individual contributions made up less than half, but these numbers really surprise me. Can this be confirmed?
    Those numbers don't surprise me at all.

    When Rich said that the poker sites donated "greater than 50%" of the money, I knew it had to be MUCH greater than half. If it were, say, 60%, he would have been happy to volunteer that information, as 40% of money coming from the members is still respectable. When I asked him to clarify, he was very evasive about it. Go back and listen. I should have kept pressing, but the "mood" of the discussion at that point was much less contentious than it was later, so I let it go. In hindsight, I really should have kept demanding the exact (or close to exact) percentages, or demanded to know the reason why it was a secret.

    This $5.2 million to $50.2 thousand ratio means that about 99% of the money came from poker sites, unless the "other contributions" also involved a lot of money donated by members, which I think is unlikely.

    This really shines a light on the fact that pretty much everyone has suspected all along -- the PPA is a lobbying organization bought and paid for by the large poker sites, just as FairPlayUSA was a lobbying organization bought and paid for by the large casinos.

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