PROJEKT:SEP **SCAM** (Rolled: A Jasep Saga)

[Anal_Hershiser]

Also, this is NOT a defense at all of Jasep, but I don't think he is a sociopathic scammer. That's more what peterdc is. After the full story came out, I could tell Peter's scamming was a lifestyle choice that gave him some sick enjoyment. Recall that Peter could have easily married his phone-sex-company-owning girlfriend and been set for life with a woman who was worth well over 10 million dollars. Instead, he resorted to scamming other people and even stealing from her.

I equate Jasep with Erick Lindgren, just on a much smaller scale (and with much less poker talent than Erick).

Both would pay the money they owed if they had it. Both delude themselves into thinking that scamming is just a temporary means to getting whole financially, and they'll eventually make it right without anyone being the wiser. Both have major gambling problems and will step on anyone to keep themselves in action.

In Jasep's case, I think he has a fantasy of being a winning poker pro. He is probably both a losing player and someone with -EV pit gambling problem, as well. Every time he takes a loan from a friend, every time he runs a stake that is actually paying off previous stakes or life expenses, every time he lies, every time he steals, he probably talks himself into believing that he will pay everyone back when he inevitably "stops running bad" and becomes the winning player he thinks he already is.

This is why he was still communicating with people as recently as yesterday afternoon. He is still deluding himself that he can (dishonestly) scratch up the 5k, bail himself out of this BAP mess, and somehow keep enough supporters to where they will give him another shot in the future. He hasn't quite accepted the fact that this is really the end of his gambling-by-borrowing career.

In Jasep's mind, the victims here are just temporary, provided he can still keep playing poker and "make things right" eventually. I'm sure he believes that he would have righted the ship had this not been outed by the "assholes" of this forum, much like Howard Lederer and Ray Bitar believed that Full Tilt would have restored everyone's money had that pesky DOJ not busted them shortly after they stole it all.

I believe there are two types of scammers out there -- sociopathic scammers, and opportunistic scammers.

Sociopathic scammers are people like Justin Smith and Peterdc. They actually scam because they enjoy it. It's a lifestyle to them.

Opportunistic scammers are people who don't enjoy scamming, but see it as a means of a way out of their financial messes. These people wouldn't scam if they were financially sound, but see scamming as a reasonable option to bail themselves out of bad money situations. That's where I put Jasep.

How on earth can you make an argument that the guy isn't a sociopath? He has been lying for years. To some of the people he is closest too. Opportunistic scammers don't lie and steal from lifelong friends. He is STILL lying. Do you honestly think that he didn't know he was gonna scam that charity from the second he got involved? *edit* after seeing Drexel's above post, it looks like it was his idea. ROFL. He's not a sociopathic scammer? Yeah, ok.

Jasep at :10 when he heard the 22q thing was happening.



He is scamming new people to pay back the people he just scammed. An opportunistic scammer doesn't send back a mistake deposit to their bank account. An opportunistic scammer scams when things fall in their laps. Someone could make an argument that plol is an opportunistic scammer. A sociopathic scammer lies to his friends, family, and anyone who could expose him. A sociopathic scammer tells his business partner he is meeting a rep from a charity to give him a check. It takes a special type of piece of shit to do that. Anyone who thinks it isn't true is just as clueless now as they were on page 3 of this thread. I bet some guys on death row would be disgusted by that. It's also not like he was scamming to put food on the table. He lost $600 to Brandon in pai gow poker ffs. By his own admission, he was playing 20/40, and "hail mary" VP sessions. Not the actions of an opportunistic scammer trying to pay the bills.

All you faggots blaming Druff and Brandon for getting fucked obviously have the mentality of a 7 year old. You are grown ass men. It isn't anyone else's responsibility to do your homework for you. Even when it was blatantly obvious the guy was a scammer, you dipshits were still sucking him off. You have to be a special kind of dumbfuck yourself to send a stranger money on the internet to begin with. WTF were you thinking? Especially the guys who have been scammed multiple times. I guess in the game of life, you were just born suckers. Jasep is NOT a good guy who got caught up in a temporary scam. He has made it his way of life, and is a piece of shit to the highest degree. This is only the stuff we know about. You think these are his first scams?