PROJEKT:SEP **SCAM** (Rolled: A Jasep Saga)

[donkdowndonedied]

Sep had 3% of VPR but only one who made any money.


SEP IS GOD.

[chinamaniac]

Sep had 3% of VPR but only one who made any money.


SEP IS GOD.

He didnt make any money though unless you count the BAP, all he made money from was selling to Pikachar before we merged. After that me and brandon got our share of blind squirrel.

If anything he put too much time into the website and rolled himself by not doing something that made money

[BeerAndPoker]

I thought china made it clear that they didn't know about how sep's end was all split up. This is recent news to china, not something they knew when they opened the joint.

When we opened VPR it was supposed to look like this

Me 32
Drexel 32
Sep 32

Vegas1369 like 4

That's roughly what it looked like. But he sold Pikachar 20 % of filthy limperradio and Kevin owned 20 % of filthy limper radio before we merged and then Tim owned I think 50 % of filthy limper radio.

We never knew Pikachar had anything until 2 days ago and Sep lied when we asked him how pikachar is tied into everything. He also told us Tim wouldnt sell his share when we started but he was trying to buy him out. But rumor is he is in debt a large sum to that guy so I doubt the guy wanted a buyout. Had no idea kevins shares. We had an idea sep maybe had 16-20 % of shares from filthy limper but had no idea he had that much sold or gave out from his end. If the site blew up and we started making decent money I wonder what he would have done, just not paid these guys?

I see what your saying but in reality everyone was told you have this % or so you thought then the number is greater then 100% because of Jasep lies.

From what I gather reading the posts Jasep was the only one that truly knew about the actual cost expenses and what was coming in which everyone took his word for it. His social game was strong enough to have everyone feel he was a decent and trustworthy guy which I'm not saying you all are completely naive but at least a little bit, however, it was a good scheme by him until finally things don't start to add up.

A big reason things don't add up is because he went too far with it and got to greedy. He started to ask for more money from you and then give Brandon the run around. He then wants that BAP money weeks before he starts and from the posted texts he comes off so desperate for it that huge warning signs are going off.

This whole thing is so wild it makes me "almost" forget about Zach Hart rolling SrslySirius but now Zach "almost" looks like a stand up guy compared to Jasep.

[chinamaniac]

When we opened VPR it was supposed to look like this

Me 32
Drexel 32
Sep 32

Vegas1369 like 4

That's roughly what it looked like. But he sold Pikachar 20 % of filthy limperradio and Kevin owned 20 % of filthy limper radio before we merged and then Tim owned I think 50 % of filthy limper radio.

We never knew Pikachar had anything until 2 days ago and Sep lied when we asked him how pikachar is tied into everything. He also told us Tim wouldnt sell his share when we started but he was trying to buy him out. But rumor is he is in debt a large sum to that guy so I doubt the guy wanted a buyout. Had no idea kevins shares. We had an idea sep maybe had 16-20 % of shares from filthy limper but had no idea he had that much sold or gave out from his end. If the site blew up and we started making decent money I wonder what he would have done, just not paid these guys?

I see what your saying but in reality everyone was told you have this % or so you thought then the number is greater then 100% because of Jasep lies.

From what I gather reading the posts Jasep was the only one that truly knew about the actual cost expenses and what was coming in which everyone took his word for it. His social game was strong enough to have everyone feel he was a decent and trustworthy guy which I'm not saying you all are completely naive but at least a little bit, however, it was a good scheme by him until finally things don't start to add up.

A big reason things don't add up is because he went too far with it and got to greedy. He started to ask for more money from you and then give Brandon the run around. He then wants that BAP money weeks before he starts and from the posted texts he comes off so desperate for it that huge warning signs are going off.

This whole thing is so wild it makes me "almost" forget about Zach Hart rolling SrslySirius but now Zach "almost" looks like a stand up guy compared to Jasep.

The site wasn't making money.

[Dan Druff]

Sep had 3% of VPR but only one who made any money.


SEP IS GOD.

He didnt make any money though unless you count the BAP, all he made money from was selling to Pikachar before we merged. After that me and brandon got our share of blind squirrel.

If anything he put too much time into the website and rolled himself by not doing something that made money

I'm confused here.

You told me that he overstated the server costs and you barely got paid from the Blind Squirrel money.

You also posted that you gave him $250 to hire a guy "web design work" that was likely never completed.

I also don't believe he ever distributed any of the profits to pikachar, Kevin Wright, or Tim Byrd.

So it does appear to me that Jasep made most of the money from VPR, despite only owning a small percentage.

What do I have wrong?

[chinamaniac]

He didnt make any money though unless you count the BAP, all he made money from was selling to Pikachar before we merged. After that me and brandon got our share of blind squirrel.

If anything he put too much time into the website and rolled himself by not doing something that made money

I'm confused here.

You told me that he overstated the server costs and you barely got paid from the Blind Squirrel money.

You also posted that you gave him $250 to hire a guy "web design work" that was likely never completed.

I also don't believe he ever distributed any of the profits to pikachar, Kevin Wright, or Tim Byrd.

So it does appear to me that Jasep made most of the money from VPR, despite only owning a small percentage.

What do I have wrong?

It's possible he switched to a server like yours from the shitty venom one then switched to blue host/ Pikachar

But it's also possible what u posted. I don't know how long we were on blue fire.

The 250 part is correct , I more than likely was rolled.

And I don't know if he paid them anything. But more than likely he didn't.

I guess he did make the most if he rolled us on the server costs but as far as the 250 I recouped about 200 of that through affiliate money from Bcp and merge that was paid for past month.

[fluffer]

[BeerAndPoker]

The site wasn't making money.

But if it blew up and was making say $15k a month which now Jasep claims your percentage isn't what you claim and he says so sue me? You didn't officially sign anything and that would suck.

I know the site wasn't making money but if somehow it got very profitable then you'd be left in bad spot.

These are moot points now I get it but all I'm trying to say is get that contract in the future regardless if you think it won't be a big money maker or not.

[chinamaniac]

The site wasn't making money.

But if it blew up and was making say $15k a month which now Jasep claims your percentage isn't what you claim and he says so sue me? You didn't officially sign anything and that would suck.

I know the site wasn't making money but if somehow it got very profitable then you'd be left in bad spot.

These are moot points now I get it but all I'm trying to say is get that contract in the future regardless if you think it won't be a big money maker or not.

Me and Brandon pressed for a contract. It was scheduled to be done this week but.......

[Dan Druff]

I'm confused here.

You told me that he overstated the server costs and you barely got paid from the Blind Squirrel money.

You also posted that you gave him $250 to hire a guy "web design work" that was likely never completed.

I also don't believe he ever distributed any of the profits to pikachar, Kevin Wright, or Tim Byrd.

So it does appear to me that Jasep made most of the money from VPR, despite only owning a small percentage.

What do I have wrong?

It's possible he switched to a server like yours from the shitty venom one then switched to blue host/ Pikachar

But it's also possible what u posted. I don't know how long we were on blue fire.

The 250 part is correct , I more than likely was rolled.

And I don't know if he paid them anything. But more than likely he didn't.

I guess he did make the most if he rolled us on the server costs but as far as the 250 I recouped about 200 of that through affiliate money from Bcp and merge that was paid for past month.

The WHOIS data shows that podcastvegas.com was created on July 24th, 2012.

Oddly enough the "technical contact" info (Bluehost.com) was shown to be last modified on June 11th, about 6 weeks before podcastvegas.com was created. Not sure how that happened, but it pretty much verifies that he started podcastvegas.com with Bluehost, which has always been $4.95.

Prior to July 24th, he was with some other failhost that was really slow and also had to be really cheap. I remember telling you and Brandon that I found the VPR site to load very slowly (especially the forum), as if you guys were on some real cheapo shared hosting plan.

There's no way he ever paid for a high-end or medium-end server.

You guys definitely got rolled, though not for a large amount of money.

[Dan Druff]

The site wasn't making money.

But if it blew up and was making say $15k a month which now Jasep claims your percentage isn't what you claim and he says so sue me? You didn't officially sign anything and that would suck.

I know the site wasn't making money but if somehow it got very profitable then you'd be left in bad spot.

These are moot points now I get it but all I'm trying to say is get that contract in the future regardless if you think it won't be a big money maker or not.

You're right about always needing a contract, even if it's among friends.

That was one of the mistakes I made with DD, and it contributed to the eventual split-up. We had certain oral agreements in 2009 that everyone denied making when we had our blow-up in 2011. I had no way to prove it. It's even possible that the other-parties-in-question legitimately didn't remember making such agreements. It was a mess.

That's why I drew up such a detailed contract when I left the site, and it turned out I was very smart to do so.

Moral of the story is that you should always have all business arrangements in writing, even if it's with friends, because you never know when your friends will no longer be.

[4BET]

Me, 4Bet, Baron Von S and a few others gang raped Jesep in his Filthy Limper Radio thread. We'd take turns fucking his ass until it was unrecognizable and then we'd fuck it some more. I think Fluffer might have been involved as well. Nobody could tweak him like I could though. He was low hanging fruit to me...always responded and was nonconfrontational. I actually stopped because I didn't want my hate to affect his business. I never wanted to be a reason for somebody to not have a chance at making some money. I wish I hadn't stopped. I'm sorry to say that I sort of became a Filthy Limper apologist because the radio show became entertaining.

4Bet, remember those days? Lol.

How could I ever forget

[ShadyJ]

Drexel, China, great job looking out for the community making it look like you invested heavy in this spik, what was this, some last resort to mabe get some money back by having him playing with a 2k roll provided by the good people on this forum?

Drexel and China both knew he was broke, and dont say everyone knew it. Theres a difference between poker broke and life broke needing $16 to pay a bill.

If I knew someone needed $16 to pay a bill I would at the very least let Druff know when the guy posts a bap.

[Drexel]

I just caught up with this thread. I am going to have dinner but when I return home, I will answer all questions that have been directed at me.

One quick thing...I realize now that I should have either had Johnny post it in the BAP or I should have that the $600 he owed me was my contribution to the stake. However, Johnny assured me (and when I made my offer to do this, Kevin Wright was on skype voice conference since radio had just concluded) that he HAD THE FUNDS and would be putting the $600 difference in himself.

I never would have agreed or have been a part of this had I known or thought that he wasn't putting in the difference.

Also, an email was sent to me today, that Johnny had sent soliciting more shares claiming I had none. My shares in total were 12.

As Mark mentioned, I texted Johnny yesterday about why I had to wait 6 days when I requested out of this, to only now have to wait 3-5 days more for a echeck to clear especially when he knew my banking info and if he had cash at hand he had 6 days to walk into any BAC branch.

I will expand on this more but YES 100% it was terrible judgment on my part, Mark's and Kevin's not to audit or have safe guards in place to verify the accuracy of 22q donations. I can verify that is being looked into as we speak.

I will say this, I was very concerned when I read Mark's skype message he had with Johnny referencing paying 22Q.

Jaseps statement that "I will be meeting a guy in the next day or two and handing him the bank draft" made no sense. I have been told by many people today with accurate knowledge that there was no one affiliated with 22q in RI,MA, or CT that he could have possibly met.

I hope there is some logical explanation for that statement from Jasep.

Again Jasep, I am confident you are reading this. Please at the very least provide a contact name of who you met or delivered the balance to, or post some visual evidence validating the claims you made.

edit: Druff I am running out the door to pick up my pops for dinner. Please remove my avatar. Didn't even notice until it was pointed out.

[gut]

But if it blew up and was making say $15k a month which now Jasep claims your percentage isn't what you claim and he says so sue me? You didn't officially sign anything and that would suck.

I know the site wasn't making money but if somehow it got very profitable then you'd be left in bad spot.

These are moot points now I get it but all I'm trying to say is get that contract in the future regardless if you think it won't be a big money maker or not.

You're right about always needing a contract, even if it's among friends.

That was one of the mistakes I made with DD, and it contributed to the eventual split-up. We had certain oral agreements in 2009 that everyone denied making when we had our blow-up in 2011. I had no way to prove it. It's even possible that the other-parties-in-question legitimately didn't remember making such agreements. It was a mess.

That's why I drew up such a detailed contract when I left the site, and it turned out I was very smart to do so.

Moral of the story is that you should always have all business arrangements in writing, even if it's with friends, because you never know when your friends will no longer be.

I would add to this to simply not go into business with anyone who you would not want to risk a personal friendship with if things go awry.

[Dan Druff]

Drexel, China, great job looking out for the community making it look like you invested heavy in this spik, what was this, some last resort to mabe get some money back by having him playing with a 2k roll provided by the good people on this forum?

Drexel and China both knew he was broke, and dont say everyone knew it. Theres a difference between poker broke and life broke needing $16 to pay a bill.

If I knew someone needed $16 to pay a bill I would at the very least let Druff know when the guy posts a bap.

This was from Jasep himself on his original post in this thread:

For those of you that listen to my radio show (Filthy Limper Radio) on http://www.VegasPokerRadio.com you may have heard me speak recently about my finances being depleted over the last 8 months. I always speak openly and honestly about everything on the radio, even if it is embarrassing or painful to talk about. The 12/6 episode of the show I talked about my fears and thoughts about having to possibly enter the job market, with no formal education or experience.

I think it's pretty clear from the above that he was flat broke. I don't think that was ever a secret.

[Pooh]

Drexel and China both knew he was broke, and dont say everyone knew it. Theres a difference between poker broke and life broke needing $16 to pay a bill.

If I knew someone needed $16 to pay a bill I would at the very least let Druff know when the guy posts a bap.

This was from Jasep himself on his original post in this thread:

For those of you that listen to my radio show (Filthy Limper Radio) on http://www.VegasPokerRadio.com you may have heard me speak recently about my finances being depleted over the last 8 months. I always speak openly and honestly about everything on the radio, even if it is embarrassing or painful to talk about. The 12/6 episode of the show I talked about my fears and thoughts about having to possibly enter the job market, with no formal education or experience.

I think it's pretty clear from the above that he was flat broke. I don't think that was ever a secret.

If you knew the guy was flat broke you should have never let the BAP appear on your website. He could have run it over there.

[ShadyJ]

I just caught up with this thread. I am going to have dinner but when I return home, I will answer all questions that have been directed at me.

One quick thing...I realize now that I should have either had Johnny post it in the BAP or I should have that the $600 he owed me was my contribution to the stake. However, Johnny assured me (and when I made my offer to do this, Kevin Wright was on skype voice conference since radio had just concluded) that he HAD THE FUNDS and would be putting the $600 difference in himself.

I never would have agreed or have been a part of this had I known or thought that he wasn't putting in the difference.

Also, an email was sent to me today, that Johnny had sent soliciting more shares claiming I had none. My shares in total were 12.

As Mark mentioned, I texted Johnny yesterday about why I had to wait 6 days when I requested out of this, to only now have to wait 3-5 days more for a echeck to clear especially when he knew my banking info and if he had cash at hand he had 6 days to walk into any BAC branch.

I will expand on this more but YES 100% it was terrible judgment on my part, Mark's and Kevin's not to audit or have safe guards in place to verify the accuracy of 22q donations. I can verify that is being looked into as we speak.

I will say this, I was very concerned when I read Mark's skype message he had with Johnny referencing paying 22Q.

Jaseps statement that "I will be meeting a guy in the next day or two and handing him the bank draft" made no sense. I have been told by many people today with accurate knowledge that there was no one affiliated with 22q in RI,MA, or CT that he could have possibly met.

I hope there is some logical explanation for that statement from Jasep.

Again Jasep, I am confident you are reading this. Please at the very least provide a contact name of who you met or delivered the balance to, or post some visual evidence validating the claims you made.

edit: Druff I am running out the door to pick up my pops for dinner. Please remove my avatar. Didn't even notice until it was pointed out.

I respect the fact you admit it was wrong, but why would you believe he was putting the $600 in if he didnt have it to pay you in the first place?

[ShadyJ]

Drexel and China both knew he was broke, and dont say everyone knew it. Theres a difference between poker broke and life broke needing $16 to pay a bill.

If I knew someone needed $16 to pay a bill I would at the very least let Druff know when the guy posts a bap.

This was from Jasep himself on his original post in this thread:

For those of you that listen to my radio show (Filthy Limper Radio) on http://www.VegasPokerRadio.com you may have heard me speak recently about my finances being depleted over the last 8 months. I always speak openly and honestly about everything on the radio, even if it is embarrassing or painful to talk about. The 12/6 episode of the show I talked about my fears and thoughts about having to possibly enter the job market, with no formal education or experience.

I think it's pretty clear from the above that he was flat broke. I don't think that was ever a secret.

No where in that does he say hes flat broke. He sounds like hes poker broke. I highly doubt anyone would invest if they knew he would pay bills with their money.

If he expressed being flat broke on his site that has nothing to do with his post here. I didnt invest but I wouldnt have known anything from his site because I dont go on there.

So what your saying being a poker pro with bills and knowing hes flat broke. You knew hed be paying bills with the bap money, but you let it on your site which is titled POKER FRAUD ALERT

[Pooh]