New Thread! Matt Gaetz nominated as Attorney General!

[desertrunner]

Now real details are coming out..

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[tgull]

Serious though, name the 10 best cabinet secretaries of all time? I can't, they really just set the agenda in the agency and the agenda is going to come from the White House. People blame the Homeland Security Secretary for the open border but the policy came from the progressive lunatics in the party the last 4 years. Regarding RFK, he really can't affect existing vaccines, that would need Congress. He can affect food quality, which isn't a bad thing. People should not be eating processed cupcakes that can survive 5 years in a sealed wrapper anyway.

I mean I think by any objective measure, Gaetz and RFK Jr are just horrible human beings. RFK Jr spent years 15-30 as the kid who vandalized your business and addicted to heroin for 15 years. He then started failing the bar exam for a few years and became essentially an environmentalist for 20 years. Then spent the last 20 years spreading misinformation that got kids killed and when proven wrong, kept doubling down. I am not saying I disagree with his premise food is unhealthy and pesticides are bad. If he kept it at that he would be harmless, but even that freak tranny was an actual doctor. This guy is 70 and every aspect of his personal life from 15-70 is riddled with him doing the people closest to him horribly wrong.

I mean as Chris Rock said, men are only as faithful as their options, but you can be discreet. During every marriage, this guy has multiple affairs and then shows the nude photos of the conquests to all his buddies and anyone in his social circle to the point his wives are so embarrassed that one even offed herself. This has came up in every divorce proceeding and his present marriage. Thats a strange insecurity to still have at 70. It's just a really strange thing to do.

He just strikes me as a sociopath who does wrong by everyone in his world and then hides behind all these causes as covers to pretend he's not a sociopath. We all know people who are just tremendous scumbags like this. If a girl is overly into shit like animals or some pet charities, I know I am dealing with a psycho 95% of the time and run. I know she's going to end up as someone who doesn't give a fuck about actual humans and probably has two kids who are "staying with their father" while they volunteer 6 hours a week at some pet shelter and consider themselves a great person while you're wondering how the fuck they don't have their own kids and why there are 20 pictures of rottweilers for every pic of their kid on their social media? I feel I have met that chick twenty times and they are all the same nutjob.

I mean being an environmentalist fighting for the coast line and marching with Indians to fight the white man and whatever other cause and then joining up with the kill the EPA and deregulate party is like being that pet chick and then getting into dog fighting and banging Michael Vick. If he was a chick we would call him a hot mess.

Gaetz was born too late. He was born to be a Pinto salesmen back when they blew up with a little fender bender rear end collision. I am not sure we know what kind of freak he exactly is. We all know the sex shit with underage girls, but the weird, arranged marriage to some donor daughter who lives in CA while he lives in Florida, 18-year-old Cuban boys living with him that he all of a sudden calls his son? I mean who was raising the kid when you're partying all the time and how old is his sister you supposedly dated? The multiple plastic surgeries like some Vegas bottle girl/real estate chick. Just a really weird freak and he might legit be way worse than we even know.

Even Tulsi, I don't hate her, but she isn't overly bright. Was the darling of RT for years. Was born into some strange cult. I don't mind her being around, but head of the nation's biggest secrets, I don't love that idea.

These are just poor choices to have around and in the ear of any president. They are bad people to have at the top of agencies where hundreds or thousands of people have to report to them. It's insulting to actual professionals.

I think Matt is cooked, but he is the only one. Trump will simply appoint Kash Patel. I think you are missing a huge piece here. Most of these cabinet appointments will have no real power. They are simply going to be talking heads on TV to deliver the message from the White House. Trump just appointed his lead counsel from his trial, a former SDNY guy as the deputy AG. He will be running the department. Tulsi, Pete, etc.. will simply be mouthpieces for Trump and the Administration because they are loyal and good on TV. Trump said his biggest regret in 2016 was Jeff Sessions, obviously. He was right because when Sessions recused himself it led to a two year fake investigation of the Russian Hoax. His second biggest regret was James Mattis. Trump wanted to make changes and Mattis refused.

The only cabinet member with real power with be RFK, only because Trump does not give a shit about HHS. Anything related to Defense, Treasury, State Department or Deep State, will be run by the White House. Keep in mind, this is not an abuse of power, this is what the voters said they wanted. A vast majority of people are sick of this woke DEI bullshit, and when Pete starts firing woke generals who promote people based on race and gender and orientation, most people will applaud it. Pete is 100% right, if a general's focus has changed from being lethal to being diverse its time to go into retirement. I am not sure why people are shocked by this, he said all along he was going to surround the WH with people that are loyal. He is never going to hire someone like Rex Tillerson again, who 3 months into his State Department gig he called Trump an idiot, those days are over.

[Tellafriend]

I think you are missing a huge piece here. Most of these cabinet appointments will have no real power. They are simply going to be talking heads on TV to deliver the message from the White House.

you are grossly oversimplifying this. cabinet officials head enormous agencies and from there edicts go out which given the size and scope of the federal government has tremendous influence - Mayorkas for example has incredible power and wields it mercilessly to do his master's bidding. he is not alone. look what treasury has done with our $$$. Defense and our funding of other wars. it goes on and on. trump only has so much attention span.

[tgull]

I think you are missing a huge piece here. Most of these cabinet appointments will have no real power. They are simply going to be talking heads on TV to deliver the message from the White House.

you are grossly oversimplifying this. cabinet officials head enormous agencies and from there edicts go out which given the size and scope of the federal government has tremendous influence - Mayorkas for example has incredible power and wields it mercilessly to do his master's bidding. he is not alone. look what treasury has done with our $$$. Defense and our funding of other wars. it goes on and on. trump only has so much attention span.

Mayorkas took his border orders from the WH. You are also looking at it from the way things have been done for the last 50 years. This is not business as usual. The policy for the State Department will come from the WH, and Rubio will convey it to his staff to execute it. If they don't they are fired. I guess what Trump has said is the level of autonomy is over. There will be no Jim Mattis pushing back. There will be no Jeff Sessions recusing himself because "those are the rules". If you think Tulsi is going to make her own decisions besides what makeup she wears on TV, I don't know what to tell you. Trump is all about messaging, his staff will fill the departments that are loyal Trump and they will do the day to work. Bill Barr was asked in 2019 to appoint Kash Patel to a senior leadership role, he said "over my dead body". Those days are simply over. Don't believe me, ask Chris Wray on January 21st when he is fired, a Trump appointee. On January 21st Pete will start the process of firing woke generals, there is no way Mattis would ever have done that, that is the difference. The FBI will get the biggest housecleaning, probably by Steve Rogers when he is appointed.

Don't be surprised if Trump does not take Steve Bannon's advice, and ask Pete to order General Milley out of retirement for a day, so he can officially court-martial him.

[tgull]

Que up Bannon to 2:45. Things like this need to happen. When did these Generals think they run an agency that by statute is governed by civilians?

[desertrunner]

Why I like Matt...

[Dan Druff]

I would love to see an AG appointed who will put an end to a lot of the corruption and selective prosecution we see at the DOJ.

There's no question that Trump was the victim of lawfare since he took office in 2017, and it's especially ramped up in the past 2 years.

There's no question that they were going out of their way to sweep the Hunter Biden stuff under the rug.

There's no question that other abuses were occurring, such as weaponizing the federal government to silence unhappy parents at school board meetings, with an attempt to brand this as a form of terrorism.

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

[Jayjami]

I would love to see an AG appointed who will put an end to a lot of the corruption and selective prosecution we see at the DOJ.

There's no question that Trump was the victim of lawfare since he took office in 2017, and it's especially ramped up in the past 2 years.

There's no question that they were going out of their way to sweep the Hunter Biden stuff under the rug.

There's no question that other abuses were occurring, such as weaponizing the federal government to silence unhappy parents at school board meetings, with an attempt to brand this as a form of terrorism.

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

If the pedo actually survives Senate scrutiny, there will be mass resignations at the DOJ, which he’ll fill with top notch Liberty University graduates. I’m quite confident that they won’t accomplish a thing, and blame “Obama Judges” for their incompetence. It’ll actually be pretty amusing.

[tgull]

I would love to see an AG appointed who will put an end to a lot of the corruption and selective prosecution we see at the DOJ.

There's no question that Trump was the victim of lawfare since he took office in 2017, and it's especially ramped up in the past 2 years.

There's no question that they were going out of their way to sweep the Hunter Biden stuff under the rug.

There's no question that other abuses were occurring, such as weaponizing the federal government to silence unhappy parents at school board meetings, with an attempt to brand this as a form of terrorism.

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

I believe there will be an announcement that Gaetz steps aside and joins the WH as a special advisor, just my gut feeling. Regardless, the FBI as we know it will be dismantled and its remnants will be absorbed by the DOJ. It really was a creation of J Edgar Hoover anyway, its not like it was needed, it was more about Prohibition in the 20s, and rooting out bootleggers and it took a life of its own after that when FDR weaponized it. But the culture never left after Hoover died in the 70s, and its generally over been an organization rooting out people that really were never causing a national concern. Look how many investigations they botched dating back to 9-11 which was their biggest failure.

Whoever is in charge of the FBI, as an organization, it's finished. It will exist in some form on regional office levels, but as a stand along agency, it's gone. It was never needed to begin with. I have known a couple FBI agents, they were fucking lazy as shit, one guy even bragged about it. So long.

[Dan Druff]

I would love to see an AG appointed who will put an end to a lot of the corruption and selective prosecution we see at the DOJ.

There's no question that Trump was the victim of lawfare since he took office in 2017, and it's especially ramped up in the past 2 years.

There's no question that they were going out of their way to sweep the Hunter Biden stuff under the rug.

There's no question that other abuses were occurring, such as weaponizing the federal government to silence unhappy parents at school board meetings, with an attempt to brand this as a form of terrorism.

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

If the pedo actually survives Senate scrutiny, there will be mass resignations at the DOJ, which he’ll fill with top notch Liberty University graduates. I’m quite confident that they won’t accomplish a thing, and blame “Obama Judges” for their incompetence. It’ll actually be pretty amusing.

I'm hearing that approximately 30 GOP Senators are considering voting NO on his confirmation. The Dems just need 4 defectors to block this, so getting 4/30 should be a piece of cake.

Regardless, there is a real issue with selective prosecution and lawfare within the DOJ. We even have an example from poker.

During Obama's time in office, there was very strong evidence that Harry Reid took a $1 million bribe in order to change his position on legalizing online poker. The state of Utah (where this occurred) was begging the DOJ for help in investigating this. Eric Holder absolutely shut them down, and wouldn't explain why. He made it very clear that there would be zero help from the feds in this mater, end of story.

This wasn't even a one-time fuckup. Reid was notorious for decades for taking bribes.

This type of shit needs to stop. You have under-prosecution for some crimes, and overzealous prosecution for other matters, and it all depends upon who is being investigated. There's also the issue of monetary-related prosecution, for which the Southern District of NY is famous. The DOJ SDNY doesn't care how serious the crime -- only how much money or assets they can seize from prosecuting it. Ironically, had DOJ SDNY realized that 2/3 of the online poker sites were busto, they might not have gone after the whole matter in the first place. Well, maybe they would have because Pokerstars was still rich.

Anyway, this is the type of stuff I want to see changed.

[desertrunner]

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

I believe you, I just dont have any specific evidence to go off of.

Gaetz is also in his 40's and I think that still too young as anyone in a political position should be atleast age 50. I feel the maturity jump is a major benefit. Me- I was a good person in my 40's, but much more mature and better in my 50's. This goes for JD Vance as well, too young, but performs well.

[Sanlmar]

I would love to see an AG appointed who will put an end to a lot of the corruption and selective prosecution we see at the DOJ.

There's no question that Trump was the victim of lawfare since he took office in 2017, and it's especially ramped up in the past 2 years.

There's no question that they were going out of their way to sweep the Hunter Biden stuff under the rug.

There's no question that other abuses were occurring, such as weaponizing the federal government to silence unhappy parents at school board meetings, with an attempt to brand this as a form of terrorism.

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

Why can’t we all applaud Trump appropriating some of the Democrat’s better ideas.

Hey, he’s trying and that’s worth something

[desertrunner]

The Biden DOJ investigation never went anywhere and the Dem's had nothing. So I have nothing against him.

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[Texter]

I would love to see an AG appointed who will put an end to a lot of the corruption and selective prosecution we see at the DOJ.

There's no question that Trump was the victim of lawfare since he took office in 2017, and it's especially ramped up in the past 2 years.

There's no question that they were going out of their way to sweep the Hunter Biden stuff under the rug.

There's no question that other abuses were occurring, such as weaponizing the federal government to silence unhappy parents at school board meetings, with an attempt to brand this as a form of terrorism.

I just do not want Matt Gaetz as the guy doing this, for multiple reasons. Many Republican lawmakers agree with me.

If the pedo actually survives Senate scrutiny, there will be mass resignations at the DOJ, which he’ll fill with top notch Liberty University graduates. I’m quite confident that they won’t accomplish a thing, and blame “Obama Judges” for their incompetence. It’ll actually be pretty amusing.

Technically pedos are attracted to kids that haven’t hit puberty….still a really bad look for a grown man though.

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he may be a lot of things, but feckless is not one of them.

[mickeycrimm]

Gaetz made a lot of enemies when he went after congressional insider stock trading. He named both republicans and democrats who were doing it.

[desertrunner]

Gaetz made a lot of enemies when he went after congressional insider stock trading. He named both republicans and democrats who were doing it.

Good on him, glad he did it.

[tgull]

Just heard Trump said Gaetz is his most important appointment. He is going to get in, if not by the Senate then by recess appointment. He has on his side the fact Garland declined to file charges, so really who cares what the Ethics Committee has to say. Not my first choice obviously, but it's Trumps and he is going to get his way. But he will be the AG.

Make no mistake, the FBI in Trump's administration will be disassembled. It really was a concoction of JD Edgar Hoover anyway to spy on people. Not much has changed. I have never understood why the FBI has ever existed when you have an AG office.

[tgull]

Let me be clear, I can't stand Matt Gaetz, I think he is a cartoon character from a rich family. Yes he won Congress and went to parties right after elected acting like King Solomon, and yeah he probably did some recreational drugs and yeah banged some gals. Whether they were 17 or 19, he obviously did not know, he was likely gorged out of his mind. Yes, being 35 at the time and a sitting member of Congress, he should have known better, but Ted Kennedy in congress effectively drowned a lady and got a pass.

I want to know why liberals give Bill Clinton a pass, a sitting President, gets to seduce a 21 year old intern in the Oval Office for months for blow jobs and that is ok, but what Gaetz did is such a moral outrage? Help me understand.