**** Official Election Day Thread. Mr. Trump versus Ms. Harris ****

[GrenadaRoger]

I'm talking about public labor unions.

Which ones exactly? Like just teachers? Police and fire? You getting rid of Granada Roger's pension? I assume IRS workers have a union but I have no idea tbh.

yes, the IRS has a union, although membership is not required...the union does actively recruit (pressure?) employees to join; but if one wants to advance into management, membership is seen by some to be a bad choice.

the compensation package, particularly benefits, while good is not as nice as that for LA County employees.

personally, i think where there is a single buyer of labor (in this case the government) a single seller (union) is needed to level the bargaining power.

[Tellafriend]

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[The Boz]

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Except the stupid bastard doesn’t realize HIS far left views are why normal working Americans abandoned the party. Irony at its finest.

America will be a better place when he and Ruthie are swapping spit together in hell!

[BCR]

Which ones exactly? Like just teachers? Police and fire? You getting rid of Granada Roger's pension? I assume IRS workers have a union but I have no idea tbh.

yes, the IRS has a union, although membership is not required...the union does actively recruit (pressure?) employees to join; but if one wants to advance into management, membership is seen by some to be a bad choice.

the compensation package, particularly benefits, while good is not as nice as that for LA County employees.

personally, i think where there is a single buyer of labor (in this case the government) a single seller (union) is needed to level the bargaining power.

You don’t sound to be necessarily an abolish the union guy. Am I correct in that assumption? To make another assumption, I would guess most of the workers come from an accounting or actuarial education background? I have no idea. I would just assume that lends itself to the work. I don’t think I’ve ever known someone in that field that I can recall. I’m sure there are a bunch of support staff and tech workers also.

Like the SEC, it’s an agency that many would like to see not function properly. I would imagine having a union and nice benefits package would keep more qualified workers from leaving for the private sector.

That strikes me as the case for many of the public unions. Good teachers make great salesman. Presentation and communication skills. My buddy started in education and made the transition. Go from making 30k in the late 90s in Vegas to six figures. Not much choice once kids arrive. Most of the teachers he started with who were good switched careers .

Great accountants can make serious bank in the private sector. I heard a story about a kid who graduated a year behind me in school recently. Owned an accounting firm in North Carolina. Married to girl who also went to school with us. I don’t even recall either. Recall his name, but that’s it.

His wife got into yoga, so he bought her a yoga studio. She then proceeded to fall in love with a yoga instructor. He wanted to save marriage despite it. She was head over heels and wanted out immediately. He bought her a condo for like $300k and she signed everything else away. Kids already adults. He then sold his firm six months later for $15 million and the kids won’t talk to her. Cautionary tale about mid-life idiocy, but clearly he had a nice little firm.

I worked for the UAW. I worked first young as simply labor member during school. Then later as benefits rep in mid twenties. There was all kinds of abuse. We would sent the same guy to rehab 5 times. Same people always spending six months a year on sick leave. Idiots ruin shit for everyone. I spent much of my time fighting for people I couldn’t stand.

I saw the writing on the wall and how unsustainable it all was. But we weren’t really competing with anything. These people didn’t have some better job waiting. They had jobs for half the money and none of the benefits waiting and yet still abused it. Company also made idiotic decisions with engineering and design. It turned into an everyone grab what they can because it’s all going down eventually situation. Was already in that decline when I started.

Most public unions strike me as keeping good employees from the private sector. Not all. They all protect bad employees I’m sure that everyone would like to see fired, but they also retain good ones. I assume without unions it just becomes a resume filler to get a years experience before leaving for private sector in many of the government jobs.

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Except the stupid bastard doesnÂ’t realize HIS far left views are why normal working Americans abandoned the party. Irony at its finest.

America will be a better place when he and Ruthie are swapping spit together in hell!

His views will be exactly where American pivots next if Trump doesnÂ’t succeed. It wonÂ’t be him. Might be an Andrew Yang type. These Reagan Republicans 2020s version that is MAGA is what wins elections for Trump.

The Latino voters is a large boon for the party. Maybe the most important development and there may come a time they don’t need the rust belt states, but not needing non educated whites is still a long way away.

There are only so many small business owners. There are more workers. And so many were Trump or Bernie in 2016 that it was amazing. It’s contradictory, but they aren’t ideologues. The Dems fucked them so they’re trying this now, but that Bernie strain is also viewed as outsider shit and they liked him.

[1dollarboxcar]

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[1dollarboxcar]

and this is just the State of Nevada... it's an interesting little read...

Gen Z is no stranger to criticism for lacking basic skills. Now, they’re being blamed for slowing down the election count because they couldn’t even sign their own names.

More than 13,000 mail-in ballots had been rejected across Nevada because people’s signatures did not match those recorded on the voters’ driving licenses—many of them were Gen Zers who came of age during the pandemic and become accustomed to typing instead of writing in cursive.

Nevada’s Secretary of State, Francisco Aguilar, told the New York Times in a live blog that “Gen Z voters who struggle with cursive could slow the vote count.” https://fortune.com/2024/11/07/gen-z...tion-official/

[tgull]

Except the stupid bastard doesnÂ’t realize HIS far left views are why normal working Americans abandoned the party. Irony at its finest.

America will be a better place when he and Ruthie are swapping spit together in hell!

His views will be exactly where American pivots next if Trump doesnÂ’t succeed. It wonÂ’t be him. Might be an Andrew Yang type. These Reagan Republicans 2020s version that is MAGA is what wins elections for Trump.

The Latino voters is a large boon for the party. Maybe the most important development and there may come a time they don’t need the rust belt states, but not needing non educated whites is still a long way away.

There are only so many small business owners. There are more workers. And so many were Trump or Bernie in 2016 that it was amazing. It’s contradictory, but they aren’t ideologues. The Dems fucked them so they’re trying this now, but that Bernie strain is also viewed as outsider shit and they liked him.

I don't generally pay attention to prices, I mean the cost of eggs being $2 or $3 does not matter much to me. But my car insurance premiums are up 30%, and neither the wife or myself have had a ticket in years. I called my insurance company a couple weeks ago, and they had no idea themselves why they have gone up, they just did. The lady asked me about my credit score, I am like it's 780. I can see why people are stressed and pissed. Safe driver, good credit, age 50, my rates should be going down. You can see why people are anxious, you follow the rules and you still get fucked.

One thing is for certain, the Dems are no longer Bill Clinton's party. He would be considered a moderate Republican now. I listened to a show today, not sure what is was, it was on Satellite radio on one of those channels you only listen to every four years. The focus was repairing the party for 2032, the host who was a liberal had already given up on 2028, the damage the progressives did is going to take years to repair. If the Dems are smart, they need to rally around the Josh Shaprio types, and turn their back on the AOC types. But the MSM media controls the Democratic party, so its going to take a while.

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Except the stupid bastard doesn’t realize HIS far left views are why normal working Americans abandoned the party. Irony at its finest.

America will be a better place when he and Ruthie are swapping spit together in hell!

Propaganda is a big reason why Americans vote and voted on Tuesday against their own interests.

The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

[tgull]

Except the stupid bastard doesn’t realize HIS far left views are why normal working Americans abandoned the party. Irony at its finest.

America will be a better place when he and Ruthie are swapping spit together in hell!

Propaganda is a big reason why Americans vote and voted on Tuesday against their own interests.

The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

You make it sound like they inherited their money. They created industries that never existed until they themselves created them. They have employed hundreds of thousands of people. They deserve what money they get. They will give away all their money anyway, or in the case of Musk go to Mars. Stop being so bitter, you had every chance to develop an EV company like Musk, instead you decided to become a welder. Deal with it.

[Sanlmar]

I don't generally pay attention to prices, I mean the cost of eggs being $2 or $3 does not matter much to me. But my car insurance premiums are up 30%, and neither the wife or myself have had a ticket in years. I called my insurance company a couple weeks ago, and they had no idea themselves why they have gone up, they just did. The lady asked me about my credit score, I am like it's 780. I can see why people are stressed and pissed. Safe driver, good credit, age 50, my rates should be going down. You can see why people are anxious, you follow the rules and you still get fucked.

Insurance pain is a uniquely Florida thing

Your driver experience isn’t the issue it’s Florida natural disasters and uninsured drivers

The higher the Florida rates go more people skip insurance which triggers another rate increase and you have a spiral that looks like a tornado.

I recollect back in the day snowbirds would have a vehicle or two in Florida. Leave the cars(s) up north. People who can afford this practice now impress the hell out of me. It’s the auto train now or the brutal drive down each time.

Good luck

[go_buccos]

Except the stupid bastard doesn’t realize HIS far left views are why normal working Americans abandoned the party. Irony at its finest.

America will be a better place when he and Ruthie are swapping spit together in hell!

Propaganda is a big reason why Americans vote and voted on Tuesday against their own interests.

The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

When you copy and paste, maybe at least cite or link to the article you're copying/pasting from.

Better yet, try having an original thought that goes beyond calling someone "fag."

[big dick]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...richest-top-10

[big dick]

Propaganda is a big reason why Americans vote and voted on Tuesday against their own interests.

The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

When you copy and paste, maybe at least cite or link to the article you're copying/pasting from.

Better yet, try having an original thought that goes beyond calling someone "fag."

you do know the first sentence was my original thought right?

just wanted to point that out


GO BUCCOS!!

[Tellafriend]

Propaganda is a big reason why Americans vote and voted on Tuesday against their own interests.

The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated that the world’s 10 wealthiest people gained nearly $64bn (about £49.5bn) on Wednesday, the largest daily increase since the index began in 2012.

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, registered the largest increase with a $26.5bn addition to his fortune, which now stands at $290bn. The prominent backer of Trump’s campaign, benefited from a surge in the share price of Tesla, the electric carmaker where he is chief executive and in which he owns a 13% stake.

The gains came as tech business leaders, including Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, chief executive of Facebook parent Meta, and Apple’s Tim Cook publicly congratulated Trump on his election win.

Much of the gains for the top 10 was because of a surge in US stocks on Wednesday as investors anticipated a low-tax and regulation-light policy platform.

When you copy and paste, maybe at least cite or link to the article you're copying/pasting from.

Better yet, try having an original thought that goes beyond calling someone "fag."

it's really all he's got. just a brainwashed loser. ask him.

[VaughnP]

An historic election result it will be. First female President and widest margin of victory.

[tgull]

This is fucking hilarious.

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[Texter]

and this is just the State of Nevada... it's an interesting little read...

Gen Z is no stranger to criticism for lacking basic skills. Now, they’re being blamed for slowing down the election count because they couldn’t even sign their own names.

More than 13,000 mail-in ballots had been rejected across Nevada because people’s signatures did not match those recorded on the voters’ driving licenses—many of them were Gen Zers who came of age during the pandemic and become accustomed to typing instead of writing in cursive.

Nevada’s Secretary of State, Francisco Aguilar, told the New York Times in a live blog that “Gen Z voters who struggle with cursive could slow the vote count.” https://fortune.com/2024/11/07/gen-z...tion-official/

My oldest kid’s signature is ridiculous

[go_buccos]

76% of the vote counted in Arizona after 3 days??? Like what are we doing here?

It's a damn good thing that the presidential race is over, or we would be looking at a repeat of the 2020 "stolen election" insanity, no matter who would ultimately come out ahead. I want to be clear: I'm NOT claiming Trump won in 2020, but still IMO there would have been 10% of the controversy if Pennsylvania had gotten called in a timely fashion that year. It's fucking 2024. There's absolutely *no* reason for this.

Year in and year out, Florida has 97% of its ballots counted by 9pm Eastern on election night *every single time* and no one questions the outcomes. There's zero reason that every other state can't follow suit.

[GrenadaRoger]

yes, the IRS has a union, although membership is not required...the union does actively recruit (pressure?) employees to join; but if one wants to advance into management, membership is seen by some to be a bad choice.

the compensation package, particularly benefits, while good is not as nice as that for LA County employees.

personally, i think where there is a single buyer of labor (in this case the government) a single seller (union) is needed to level the bargaining power.

You don’t sound to be necessarily an abolish the union guy. Am I correct in that assumption? To make another assumption, I would guess most of the workers come from an accounting or actuarial education background? I have no idea. I would just assume that lends itself to the work. I don’t think I’ve ever known someone in that field that I can recall. I’m sure there are a bunch of support staff and tech workers also.

Like the SEC, it’s an agency that many would like to see not function properly. I would imagine having a union and nice benefits package would keep more qualified workers from leaving for the private sector.

That strikes me as the case for many of the public unions. Good teachers make great salesman. Presentation and communication skills. My buddy started in education and made the transition. Go from making 30k in the late 90s in Vegas to six figures. Not much choice once kids arrive. Most of the teachers he started with who were good switched careers .

Great accountants can make serious bank in the private sector. I heard a story about a kid who graduated a year behind me in school recently. Owned an accounting firm in North Carolina. Married to girl who also went to school with us. I don’t even recall either. Recall his name, but that’s it.

the accounting profession aint what it used to be...top students with math/finance ability choose wall street/investment banking, particularly since Michael Lewis book "Liars Poker" exposed how lucrative that career path is...also, the effect of accounting software has eliminated a lot of middle management jobs--no longer are middle tier workers needed to assemble reports for executives, the software allows the execs to retrieve information for themselves.

re: the IRS, only the audit / appeals section draw on accounting students...the better students in accounting opt for starting in public accounting, preferably the large national firms. only 1 in 50 hired in may make partner in large firms...the rest move on to smaller firms or go into private industry... the government attracts the less accomplished students...within the IRS the better accountant/auditors go to the Large Case division, 2nd tier is small business & self employed, the lowest is office audit...the IRS has clerical workers, tech professionals, collectors: a lot of positions that don't require significant accounting/tax knowledge.

re: unions for public employees, i see a need for them....the government has its share of poor managers that workers need protection from