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When all of your arguments are shot to shit and you look like a complete scamming asshole... Just post a gif.
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I have run out of arguments. We have rehashed this thing 9000 fucking times. What would you like to hear me continuously say? My stance is that I would like this to go to arbitration with 3 impartial judges, to include escrow beforehand, and Vegas is not willing. Ive said it until Im blue in the face and Vegas just wants to ignore that and argue semantics. Vegas doesnt want to escrow and solve this because he might lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
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Originally Posted by jsearles22I have run out of arguments. We have rehashed this thing 9000 fucking times. What would you like to hear me continuously say? My stance is that I would like this to go to arbitration with 3 impartial judges, to include escrow beforehand, and Vegas is not willing. Ive said it until Im blue in the face and Vegas just wants to ignore that and argue semantics. Vegas doesnt want to escrow and solve this because he might lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
So you have been ranting and raving about the "exact wording" of this bet and, now that Vegas has proven that the quotes you keep throwing out don't apply to the bet, you refuse to follow the exact wording of the bet?
Riddle me this moron. Say we entered into this bet and there was never any discussion whatsoever about impartial arbitors. Then we get through it and there is a disagreement about the outcome. How is that typically settled? WITH ARBITORS! So if Vegas wants to incorrectly think the arbitors dont apply to governing this bet simply because I said "usages" then we still have to settle the dispute about if it was supposed to be one or multiple misuses. In the gambling world as well as the real world, when there are disputes, it is very common for an impartial outside party to resolve that issue. If you dont understand that, then than thou though that this clippity clop hip hop bing bang boom biatch. Maybe that made sense to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serial FailQuote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
So you have been ranting and raving about the "exact wording" of this bet and, now that Vegas has proven that the quotes you keep throwing out don't apply to the bet, you refuse to follow the exact wording of the bet?
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Originally Posted by jsearles22Riddle me this moron. Say we entered into this bet and there was never any discussion whatsoever about impartial arbitors. Then we get through it and there is a disagreement about the outcome. How is that typically settled? WITH ARBITORS! So if Vegas wants to incorrectly think the arbitors dont apply to governing this bet simply because I said "usages" then we still have to settle the dispute about if it was supposed to be one or multiple misuses. In the gambling world as well as the real world, when there are disputes, it is very common for an impartial outside party to resolve that issue. If you dont understand that, then than thou though that this clippity clop hip hop bing bang boom biatch. Maybe that made sense to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serial Fail
I agree, when there are disputes an impartial third party can be brought in. Just like if there were a question about a rules violation or an angle shoot at a poker table the floor would be called over. The floor of that casino, or in this case, the website. If a bet being made here needs a ruling it should fall to Druff to lay down the verdict. If someone called the floor over on you and he made a ruling you wouldn't be able to say "No, I don't accept that, I demand that we let the casino hold onto the pot while I find three outside people to come to a judgement here."
Bottom line. You made a bad bet and found yourself one shrewd way to back out of paying when you lost. When it was proven that the wording that you were using as a shield didn't apply, you demanded the three arbitrators (Not "arbitors") be brought in to decide on the wording of the bet, Vegas has already proven that was never part of the agreement. So now you sit here, knowing that you lost the bet trying to hold on to your one last hope of backing out of making the payment that is due.
People are wanting to act like this "excuse" came about days or weeks after the bet was booked. The fact of the matter is the clarification of the bet parameters as I understood them came no less then one hour after I said "book it". Vegas was discussing this in the thread the entire time. He is acting like he spent days or weeks reseaching all of this, which couldnt be further from the truth. He researched it for +- 24 hours and then came back to the thread and tried to book a bet. He angle shot me, i recognized it, capitalized on his poor wording, and the rest is history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serial FailQuote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
I agree, when there are disputes an impartial third party can be brought in. Just like if there were a question about a rules violation or an angle shoot at a poker table the floor would be called over. The floor of that casino, or in this case, the website. If a bet being made here needs a ruling it should fall to Druff to lay down the verdict. If someone called the floor over on you and he made a ruling you wouldn't be able to say "No, I don't accept that, I demand that we let the casino hold onto the pot while I find three outside people to come to a judgement here."
Bottom line. You made a bad bet and found yourself one shrewd way to back out of paying when you lost. When it was proven that the wording that you were using as a shield didn't apply, you demanded the three arbitrators (Not "arbitors") be brought in to decide on the wording of the bet, Vegas has already proven that was never part of the agreement. So now you sit here, knowing that you lost the bet trying to hold on to your one last hope of backing out of making the payment that is due.
I agree with your casino argument, but that is because the room you are playing in has written rules. The floor is the pre-approved arbitor. There is no pre-approved arbitrator here. Druff never put that in the rules of the site, and without finding the quote i believe he said something to the effect that he didnt want to referee all the petty disagreements on the site. Therefore, if Druff has previously recused himself you or Vegas or anyone cant come in after the fact and assign Druff to the bet because it fits your agenda.
Nonetheless, I contend that the spirit of the wager that I entered was that there would be 3 independent impartial arbitrators. Vegas didnt even dispute this for over a week as all of this back and forth has been going on. I have been steadfast on my points since day one. Vegas has now twice said something to the effect of "I didnt really read this before, BUT NOW I feel " such and such. He is just flip flopping all over the damn place!
I will escrow and settle this through arbitration, Vegas will not. Its that simple
LOL.
So you want to use the "spirit of the wager" and get three "arbitors" to rule on the exact wording of the bet instead of the "spirit of the wager"?
I would make this my signature but Druff would quickly log on from a secret location and erase it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Serial Fail
I will escrow and settle this through arbitration, Vegas will not. Its that simple
Lets just escrow this nonsense and get it over with. Iv'e seen Searless say he will escrow many times, but I haven't heard that from Vegas. I haven't read the entire thread though so I may have missed it.
Searless pick someone, Vegas pick someone, and lets roll.
Vegas will have to make sure and call Jasep to ensure that his credit line is still good.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTemplar
Just wanted to clear something up... Tonight on radio when Druff briefly talked about this he said I found the 25 uses quickly, raising suspicion that I searched for the mistakes before hand. I VEHEMENTLY DENY THIS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE! It took me over 2 hours to find 22 mistakes, I didn't even get to the 25, that was hours later.
Jsearles made this post at 8:40pm PST
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post18998Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
I made this post at 10:49pm PST with only 22 mistakes, 2 hours and 9 minutes later.
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post19060Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
I posted the final 3 mistakes at 12:34am PST, almost another 2 hours later.
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post19074
I did not search out these posts before the bet took place. Unfortunately there has been so much spewage from Jsearles accusing me of looking up the posts ahead of time that the actual facts are forgotten. I found all of these mistakes after the bet was booked. If you don't believe me just ask yourself this... Which user between the two of us has been around here for many years, has always been straight up with everyone, has always paid debts immediately, and has never been accused of scamming in any way whatsoever?
Frankly at this point I am pretty surprised Druff is allowing this guy to run around here now accusing me of this shit and making threads calling me the scammer. Pretty fucked up TBH.
This whole post is bullshit and no one here is falling for the rest of your garbage either.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22People are wanting to act like this "excuse" came about days or weeks after the bet was booked. The fact of the matter is the clarification of the bet parameters as I understood them came no less then one hour after I said "book it". Vegas was discussing this in the thread the entire time. He is acting like he spent days or weeks reseaching all of this, which couldnt be further from the truth. He researched it for +- 24 hours and then came back to the thread and tried to book a bet. He angle shot me, i recognized it, capitalized on his poor wording, and the rest is history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serial Fail
I agree with your casino argument, but that is because the room you are playing in has written rules. The floor is the pre-approved arbitor. There is no pre-approved arbitrator here. Druff never put that in the rules of the site, and without finding the quote i believe he said something to the effect that he didnt want to referee all the petty disagreements on the site. Therefore, if Druff has previously recused himself you or Vegas or anyone cant come in after the fact and assign Druff to the bet because it fits your agenda.
Nonetheless, I contend that the spirit of the wager that I entered was that there would be 3 independent impartial arbitrators. Vegas didnt even dispute this for over a week as all of this back and forth has been going on. I have been steadfast on my points since day one. Vegas has now twice said something to the effect of "I didnt really read this before, BUT NOW I feel " such and such. He is just flip flopping all over the damn place!
I will escrow and settle this through arbitration, Vegas will not. Its that simple
i think its time to post restrict our fat friend
Vegas,Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369Just wanted to clear something up... Tonight on radio when Druff briefly talked about this he said I found the 25 uses quickly, raising suspicion that I searched for the mistakes before hand. I VEHEMENTLY DENY THIS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE! It took me over 2 hours to find 22 mistakes, I didn't even get to the 25, that was hours later.
Jsearles made this post at 8:40pm PST
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post18998
I made this post at 10:49pm PST with only 22 mistakes, 2 hours and 9 minutes later.
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post19060Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
I posted the final 3 mistakes at 12:34am PST, almost another 2 hours later.
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post19074
I did not search out these posts before the bet took place. Unfortunately there has been so much spewage from Jsearles accusing me of looking up the posts ahead of time that the actual facts are forgotten. I found all of these mistakes after the bet was booked. If you don't believe me just ask yourself this... Which user between the two of us has been around here for many years, has always been straight up with everyone, has always paid debts immediately, and has never been accused of scamming in any way whatsoever?
Frankly at this point I am pretty surprised Druff is allowing this guy to run around here now accusing me of this shit and making threads calling me the scammer. Pretty fucked up TBH.
We discussed this bet and you all of a sudden disappeared for 24 hours. When you returned you initially admitted to doing a search for the words, although you claim you came up empty. However you wanted to immediately book the bet. You pushed for a wager that included 15 misuses on multiple occassions. I pushed it up to 25. What I honestly believe happenned is that you had 15 posts presaved and ready to go. The night you returned and we finalized the terms you spent another 30 minutes searching out my posts before the bet was booked, I believe trying to decide if you could find 10 more. You became confident that you could and the rest is history. There is simply no way that in 2 hours you found 22 misuses and then it took you another 2 full hours to find 3 more, that just doesnt even make sense. You tried to angle shoot me, i immediately recognized this (i even called it out in multiple posts), you slipped up on your wording when YOU OFFERED THE BET, and i took it as offered. Thats the truth of the situation, nothing there is really in dispute.
So would you like to settle this or just continue to go round and round? 3 impartial judges, $500 escrowed, lets get this shit done. You have had more then enough time to secure your Jasep financing, and we should be good to go. Put up your fucking money or shut the fuck up!
OMG vegas tried to angleshoot you gawd what a total scumbag lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22Vegas,Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
We discussed this bet and you all of a sudden disappeared for 24 hours. When you returned you initially admitted to doing a search for the words, although you claim you came up empty. However you wanted to immediately book the bet. You pushed for a wager that included 15 misuses on multiple occassions. I pushed it up to 25. What I honestly believe happenned is that you had 15 posts presaved and ready to go. The night you returned and we finalized the terms you spent another 30 minutes searching out my posts before the bet was booked, I believe trying to decide if you could find 10 more. You became confident that you could and the rest is history. There is simply no way that in 2 hours you found 22 misuses and then it took you another 2 full hours to find 3 more, that just doesnt even make sense. You tried to angle shoot me, i immediately recognized this (i even called it out in multiple posts), you slipped up on your wording when YOU OFFERED THE BET, and i took it as offered. Thats the truth of the situation, nothing there is really in dispute.
So would you like to settle this or just continue to go round and round? 3 impartial judges, $500 escrowed, lets get this shit done. You have had more then enough time to secure your Jasep financing, and we should be good to go. Put up your fucking money or shut the fuck up!
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Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
pay vegas back the 500 you owe him you bet welching white bread trailer trash fat fuck
holy shit I just saw this thread has 47,000 replies
hahahahahahahahahahaha
jesus christ
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Originally Posted by Tyde
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Originally Posted by Tyde
I am truly a noob in theory on these boards so...
I didn't understand how searles wanted to be so prevalent in most everything 'sports betting' on this board...
Yet allegedly made this welchy situation. That's not good searless, at all because if your truly a SHARP or want to be yo beter pay your debts. Although I personally doubt Vegas2165 or w.e myself, so ill give you the benefit of the doubt ONLY because its with HIM....
I have pretty good intuition and general feel on people, and Vegas on this site, he seems flakey and fake. Could totally be wrong, and we smoke a huge fatty together, BUT, i don't know he makes real angle shooty bets, and tries to play them off as, 'normal'...
Thats scummy looking to a sharp husler...