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    Huff post article on the 3 guys shot was pretty ridiculous painting them as “fun loving” regular joes.

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    An analyst on CNN just said the guy with the skateboard was defending himself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    None of this would be happening if cops just stopped killing black people.
    This is a legit ridiculous demand.

    The USA has a population of 330m people and and an estimated 400m guns.

    That's a lot of fucking people and a lot of fucking guns, for context there are estimated to be more guns in the USA than the next top 20 countries combined.

    So when you combine that many people and that many guns it's gonna end up with lots of people getting shot, including people getting shot by cops.

    You can push better training to lower the number of people getting shot by cops but expecting to get the number to zero is insane.

    If the response to every time a cop shoots a black person is to start rioting and burning shit down then your country is well and truly fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    None of this would be happening if cops just stopped killing black people.
    This is a legit ridiculous demand.

    The USA has a population of 330m people and and an estimated 400m guns.

    That's a lot of fucking people and a lot of fucking guns, for context there are estimated to be more guns in the USA than the next top 20 countries combined.

    So when you combine that many people and that many guns it's gonna end up with lots of people getting shot, including people getting shot by cops.

    You can push better training to lower the number of people getting shot by cops but expecting to get the number to zero is insane.

    If the response to every time a cop shoots a black person is to start rioting and burning shit down then your country is well and truly fucked.
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    How about raise your kids not to be criminals and to respect cops and then they don’t get shot. Criminals being shot by cops is a symptom that comes from the real issue of bad parenting. If you’re told your whole life cops are racist and the bad guys and that the entire system is rigged against you so it’s nearly impossible to succeed then you’ve been effectively handicapped by your parents.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
    None of this would be happening if cops just stopped killing black people.
    This is a legit ridiculous demand.

    The USA has a population of 330m people and and an estimated 400m guns.

    That's a lot of fucking people and a lot of fucking guns, for context there are estimated to be more guns in the USA than the next top 20 countries combined.

    So when you combine that many people and that many guns it's gonna end up with lots of people getting shot, including people getting shot by cops.

    You can push better training to lower the number of people getting shot by cops but expecting to get the number to zero is insane.

    If the response to every time a cop shoots a black person is to start rioting and burning shit down then your country is well and truly fucked.
    It’s intentionally unachievable on purpose.

    Set that unrealistic goal, know it can’t be reached, then push for more and more reform every time a black person inevitably gets shot. The ultimate goal? Let blacks be free to do whatever they want without any legal consequences or punishment. That’s what the end game of Social Justice has always been about and so far it’s working.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    How about raise your kids not to be criminals and to respect cops and then they don’t get shot. Criminals being shot by cops is a symptom that comes from the real issue of bad parenting. If you’re told your whole life cops are racist and the bad guys and that the entire system is rigged against you so it’s nearly impossible to succeed then you’ve been effectively handicapped by your parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    I've been saying since the Floyd shit happened that these riots (at least out here) are mainly Occupy Wall Streeters, with a sprinkle of COVID-related hopelessness, doing it under the guise of racial injustice so some rich people are socially forced to agree. The MSM is always ready and willing to stoke a race war, anything to keep the poor fighting each other. Now the angle is just blacks vs cops.
    In fact, I've come to believe that very few BLM people really care about black lives. If they did, they would be proposing real solutions to the terrible violent crime problem in black neighborhoods. Instead, they're going after "racist" cops, who account for a tiny percentage of murders of black people each year.

    White cops are a convenient target, and the media/left are exploiting it because this is the quickest way to rapid social change.
    We've been through this a few times before. From wiki...

    "protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against Black people"

    ...if you don't like the source, pick another one, but that's what they do. That's pretty much all they do. You'd be surprised how rarely black on black violent crime is racially motivated. And when you combine racial injustice and police brutality you often end up "targeting" white cops.

    Do tell if you have difficulty understanding the above.

    Oh and the reason why they are not doing something else is because someone else is already doing that.
    So the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated?

    The shooting of Jacob Blake was racially motivated?

    I don't recall that ever being proven, or even circumstantial evidence being presented showing such a thing.

    I thought the group name was "Black Lives Matter".

    So black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops who are assumed to be racist just because the cop is white? I see. Thanks for clarifying in your usual gimmicky way.
    Considering i said white cops being targeted often because of racial injustice and police brutality your questions are pointless. I never claimed they need to be racially motivated. Sweet strawman none the less.

    Organization/movements have names. Literally never do they encompass everything they do or don't do. That's not how names work. Do i need to explain this to you as you were a toddler?

    Leading causes of death with African-Americans in 2017 were heart diseases, cancer, accidents, strokes, diabetes, CLRD and then homicide. Why aren't you crying about them for not focusing on any of the 6 more common reasons of death? I though they were called BLM? Why aren't they on the frontlines battling against diseases of the heart? Do you see how fucking stupid that question is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    In fact, I've come to believe that very few BLM people really care about black lives. If they did, they would be proposing real solutions to the terrible violent crime problem in black neighborhoods. Instead, they're going after "racist" cops, who account for a tiny percentage of murders of black people each year.

    White cops are a convenient target, and the media/left are exploiting it because this is the quickest way to rapid social change.
    We've been through this a few times before. From wiki...

    "protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against Black people"

    ...if you don't like the source, pick another one, but that's what they do. That's pretty much all they do. You'd be surprised how rarely black on black violent crime is racially motivated. And when you combine racial injustice and police brutality you often end up "targeting" white cops.

    Do tell if you have difficulty understanding the above.

    Oh and the reason why they are not doing something else is because someone else is already doing that.
    So the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated?

    The shooting of Jacob Blake was racially motivated?

    I don't recall that ever being proven, or even circumstantial evidence being presented showing such a thing.

    I thought the group name was "Black Lives Matter".

    So black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops who are assumed to be racist just because the cop is white? I see. Thanks for clarifying in your usual gimmicky way.
    Considering i said white cops being targeted often because of racial injustice and police brutality your questions are pointless. I never claimed they need to be racially motivated. Sweet strawman none the less.

    Organization/movements have names. Literally never do they encompass everything they do or don't do. That's not how names work. Do i need to explain this to you as you were a toddler?

    Leading causes of death with African-Americans in 2017 were heart diseases, cancer, accidents, strokes, diabetes, CLRD and then homicide. Why aren't you crying about them for not focusing on any of the 6 more common reasons of death? I though they were called BLM? Why aren't they on the frontlines battling against diseases of the heart? Do you see how fucking stupid that question is?
    lol another fucking moronic point you're trying to make but failing, hang yourself, you dickless loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    How about raise your kids not to be criminals and to respect cops and then they don’t get shot. Criminals being shot by cops is a symptom that comes from the real issue of bad parenting. If you’re told your whole life cops are racist and the bad guys and that the entire system is rigged against you so it’s nearly impossible to succeed then you’ve been effectively handicapped by your parents.
    This most baseline thinking is a huge part the American problems. If you can't understand the effects of racial discrimination at this stage in your life, you probably never will or don't care to.

    Get a library card
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    How about raise your kids not to be criminals and to respect cops and then they don’t get shot. Criminals being shot by cops is a symptom that comes from the real issue of bad parenting. If you’re told your whole life cops are racist and the bad guys and that the entire system is rigged against you so it’s nearly impossible to succeed then you’ve been effectively handicapped by your parents.
    This most baseline thinking is a huge part the American problems. If you can't understand the effects of racial discrimination at this stage in your life, you probably never will or don't care to.

    Get a library card
    yeah tell us about all the racial injustice happening up IN MANITOBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    How about raise your kids not to be criminals and to respect cops and then they don’t get shot. Criminals being shot by cops is a symptom that comes from the real issue of bad parenting. If you’re told your whole life cops are racist and the bad guys and that the entire system is rigged against you so it’s nearly impossible to succeed then you’ve been effectively handicapped by your parents.
    This most baseline thinking is a huge part the American problems. If you can't understand the effects of racial discrimination at this stage in your life, you probably never will or don't care to.

    Get a library card
    Kids growing up in homes without a father are 10x more likely to go to prison. Not my words Obama’s words. If you can’t understand that the only way to solve racism is raising kids the correct way then you’re brainwashed. If you think cops are more racist than others in society then you’re brainwashed. If you think cops kill only black people you’re brainwashed. If you think there’s more white on black crime than black on white crime you’re brainwashed. If you think the USA is more racist than other countries you’re brainwashed.

    Btw, I don’t know if anyone has told you but you’re a fucking retard.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    In fact, I've come to believe that very few BLM people really care about black lives. If they did, they would be proposing real solutions to the terrible violent crime problem in black neighborhoods. Instead, they're going after "racist" cops, who account for a tiny percentage of murders of black people each year.

    White cops are a convenient target, and the media/left are exploiting it because this is the quickest way to rapid social change.
    We've been through this a few times before. From wiki...

    "protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against Black people"

    ...if you don't like the source, pick another one, but that's what they do. That's pretty much all they do. You'd be surprised how rarely black on black violent crime is racially motivated. And when you combine racial injustice and police brutality you often end up "targeting" white cops.

    Do tell if you have difficulty understanding the above.

    Oh and the reason why they are not doing something else is because someone else is already doing that.
    So the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated?

    The shooting of Jacob Blake was racially motivated?

    I don't recall that ever being proven, or even circumstantial evidence being presented showing such a thing.

    I thought the group name was "Black Lives Matter".

    So black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops who are assumed to be racist just because the cop is white? I see. Thanks for clarifying in your usual gimmicky way.
    Considering i said white cops being targeted often because of racial injustice and police brutality your questions are pointless. I never claimed they need to be racially motivated. Sweet strawman none the less.

    Organization/movements have names. Literally never do they encompass everything they do or don't do. That's not how names work. Do i need to explain this to you as you were a toddler?

    Leading causes of death with African-Americans in 2017 were heart diseases, cancer, accidents, strokes, diabetes, CLRD and then homicide. Why aren't you crying about them for not focusing on any of the 6 more common reasons of death? I though they were called BLM? Why aren't they on the frontlines battling against diseases of the heart? Do you see how fucking stupid that question is?
    LOL

    You talk about strawmen and then insert the last paragraph. Homicide is a major cause of death for young black men -- much, much, much higher per capita than young white men. 4 of the 6 causes of death you mentioned occur to older people. Everyone has to die, and there will always be a "most common cause of death" for any population group. We're talking about crime here, and how it disproportionately takes young black lives in the US. Try and keep up.

    I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the narrative is that the police are an existential threat to black people in the US. The true numbers aren't being stated, because those numbers would make it look like an extremely minor problem. About 1 out of 3 million black people were killed by police while unarmed in 2018. Is that worth burning down our cities and making major changes to law enforcement policy everywhere?

    Black Lives Matter isn't just a group name. It's also a social justice slogan. People shout it in the streets. It's painted onto Major League Baseball fields and NBA courts. The message is that we should start caring about black lives, and not just dismiss them as inconsequential. Yet Democrats have been doing exactly that for years -- ignoring the high murder rate in black communities, because they already have their votes.

    Keep talking in circles like you always do, though. You're very good at avoiding taking on any direct issue, and just typing a lot of peripheral nonsense to make it look like you're keeping to the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    We've been through this a few times before. From wiki...

    "protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against Black people"

    ...if you don't like the source, pick another one, but that's what they do. That's pretty much all they do. You'd be surprised how rarely black on black violent crime is racially motivated. And when you combine racial injustice and police brutality you often end up "targeting" white cops.

    Do tell if you have difficulty understanding the above.

    Oh and the reason why they are not doing something else is because someone else is already doing that.
    So the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated?

    The shooting of Jacob Blake was racially motivated?

    I don't recall that ever being proven, or even circumstantial evidence being presented showing such a thing.

    I thought the group name was "Black Lives Matter".

    So black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops who are assumed to be racist just because the cop is white? I see. Thanks for clarifying in your usual gimmicky way.
    Considering i said white cops being targeted often because of racial injustice and police brutality your questions are pointless. I never claimed they need to be racially motivated. Sweet strawman none the less.

    Organization/movements have names. Literally never do they encompass everything they do or don't do. That's not how names work. Do i need to explain this to you as you were a toddler?

    Leading causes of death with African-Americans in 2017 were heart diseases, cancer, accidents, strokes, diabetes, CLRD and then homicide. Why aren't you crying about them for not focusing on any of the 6 more common reasons of death? I though they were called BLM? Why aren't they on the frontlines battling against diseases of the heart? Do you see how fucking stupid that question is?
    LOL

    You talk about strawmen and then insert the last paragraph. Homicide is a major cause of death for young black men -- much, much, much higher per capita than young white men. 4 of the 6 causes of death you mentioned occur to older people. Everyone has to die, and there will always be a "most common cause of death" for any population group. We're talking about crime here, and how it disproportionately takes young black lives in the US. Try and keep up.

    I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the narrative is that the police are an existential threat to black people in the US. The true numbers aren't being stated, because those numbers would make it look like an extremely minor problem. About 1 out of 3 million black people were killed by police while unarmed in 2018. Is that worth burning down our cities and making major changes to law enforcement policy everywhere?

    Black Lives Matter isn't just a group name. It's also a social justice slogan. People shout it in the streets. It's painted onto Major League Baseball fields and NBA courts. The message is that we should start caring about black lives, and not just dismiss them as inconsequential. Yet Democrats have been doing exactly that for years -- ignoring the high murder rate in black communities, because they already have their votes.

    Keep talking in circles like you always do, though. You're very good at avoiding taking on any direct issue, and just typing a lot of peripheral nonsense to make it look like you're keeping to the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    We've been through this a few times before. From wiki...

    "protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against Black people"

    ...if you don't like the source, pick another one, but that's what they do. That's pretty much all they do. You'd be surprised how rarely black on black violent crime is racially motivated. And when you combine racial injustice and police brutality you often end up "targeting" white cops.

    Do tell if you have difficulty understanding the above.

    Oh and the reason why they are not doing something else is because someone else is already doing that.
    So the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated?

    The shooting of Jacob Blake was racially motivated?

    I don't recall that ever being proven, or even circumstantial evidence being presented showing such a thing.

    I thought the group name was "Black Lives Matter".

    So black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops who are assumed to be racist just because the cop is white? I see. Thanks for clarifying in your usual gimmicky way.
    Considering i said white cops being targeted often because of racial injustice and police brutality your questions are pointless. I never claimed they need to be racially motivated. Sweet strawman none the less.

    Organization/movements have names. Literally never do they encompass everything they do or don't do. That's not how names work. Do i need to explain this to you as you were a toddler?

    Leading causes of death with African-Americans in 2017 were heart diseases, cancer, accidents, strokes, diabetes, CLRD and then homicide. Why aren't you crying about them for not focusing on any of the 6 more common reasons of death? I though they were called BLM? Why aren't they on the frontlines battling against diseases of the heart? Do you see how fucking stupid that question is?
    LOL

    You talk about strawmen and then insert the last paragraph. Homicide is a major cause of death for young black men -- much, much, much higher per capita than young white men. 4 of the 6 causes of death you mentioned occur to older people. Everyone has to die, and there will always be a "most common cause of death" for any population group. We're talking about crime here, and how it disproportionately takes young black lives in the US. Try and keep up.

    I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the narrative is that the police are an existential threat to black people in the US. The true numbers aren't being stated, because those numbers would make it look like an extremely minor problem. About 1 out of 3 million black people were killed by police while unarmed in 2018. Is that worth burning down our cities and making major changes to law enforcement policy everywhere?

    Black Lives Matter isn't just a group name. It's also a social justice slogan. People shout it in the streets. It's painted onto Major League Baseball fields and NBA courts. The message is that we should start caring about black lives, and not just dismiss them as inconsequential. Yet Democrats have been doing exactly that for years -- ignoring the high murder rate in black communities, because they already have their votes.

    Keep talking in circles like you always do, though. You're very good at avoiding taking on any direct issue, and just typing a lot of peripheral nonsense to make it look like you're keeping to the topic.
    Ok, so you’ve established that young black men and the black community writ large are more prone to criminality than whites. What do you suggest we do to fix this problem? You certainly don’t accept the solutions that democrats have proposed over the years i.e. investing in education and injecting capital into these low income neighborhoods, which would improve the environmental/structural issues that perpetuate crime.

    Or, you could man up and own your ACTUAL position. Conservatives, no matter how much you guys want to dress it up, fundamentally believe that blacks are genetically predisposed to violent behavior. Stop dancing around the issue ffs and just come clean already. Stop with whataboutisms regarding democrat run cities, crime rates (13/50) etc. Just fucking admit to the fact that you think genetics are the driving force in blacks being irredeemable thugs.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
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    So the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated?

    The shooting of Jacob Blake was racially motivated?

    I don't recall that ever being proven, or even circumstantial evidence being presented showing such a thing.

    I thought the group name was "Black Lives Matter".

    So black lives only matter if they're taken by white cops who are assumed to be racist just because the cop is white? I see. Thanks for clarifying in your usual gimmicky way.
    Considering i said white cops being targeted often because of racial injustice and police brutality your questions are pointless. I never claimed they need to be racially motivated. Sweet strawman none the less.

    Organization/movements have names. Literally never do they encompass everything they do or don't do. That's not how names work. Do i need to explain this to you as you were a toddler?

    Leading causes of death with African-Americans in 2017 were heart diseases, cancer, accidents, strokes, diabetes, CLRD and then homicide. Why aren't you crying about them for not focusing on any of the 6 more common reasons of death? I though they were called BLM? Why aren't they on the frontlines battling against diseases of the heart? Do you see how fucking stupid that question is?
    LOL

    You talk about strawmen and then insert the last paragraph. Homicide is a major cause of death for young black men -- much, much, much higher per capita than young white men. 4 of the 6 causes of death you mentioned occur to older people. Everyone has to die, and there will always be a "most common cause of death" for any population group. We're talking about crime here, and how it disproportionately takes young black lives in the US. Try and keep up.

    I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the narrative is that the police are an existential threat to black people in the US. The true numbers aren't being stated, because those numbers would make it look like an extremely minor problem. About 1 out of 3 million black people were killed by police while unarmed in 2018. Is that worth burning down our cities and making major changes to law enforcement policy everywhere?

    Black Lives Matter isn't just a group name. It's also a social justice slogan. People shout it in the streets. It's painted onto Major League Baseball fields and NBA courts. The message is that we should start caring about black lives, and not just dismiss them as inconsequential. Yet Democrats have been doing exactly that for years -- ignoring the high murder rate in black communities, because they already have their votes.

    Keep talking in circles like you always do, though. You're very good at avoiding taking on any direct issue, and just typing a lot of peripheral nonsense to make it look like you're keeping to the topic.
    Ok, so you’ve established that young black men and the black community writ large are more prone to criminality than whites. What do you suggest we do to fix this problem? You certainly don’t accept the solutions that democrats have proposed over the years i.e. investing in education and injecting capital into these low income neighborhoods, which would improve the environmental/structural issues that perpetuate crime.

    Or, you could man up and own your ACTUAL position. Conservatives, no matter how much you guys want to dress it up, fundamentally believe that blacks are genetically predisposed to violent behavior. Stop dancing around the issue ffs and just come clean already. Stop with whataboutisms regarding democrat run cities, crime rates (13/50) etc. Just fucking admit to the fact that you think genetics are the driving force in blacks being irredeemable thugs.

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