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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    You’re vocally supportive of a group that routinely spouts and practices extremist ideology and you’re worried about someone talking bad about Bill Gates. Unreal.
    I really have no idea what you’re talking about. If you mean BLM or ANTIFA or whatever, spend your day searching for a post where I’m a vocal supporter. You’re going to have a long day. That’s not my brand of democratic politics.
    So you don’t support Black Lives Matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
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    I really have no idea what you’re talking about. If you mean BLM or ANTIFA or whatever, spend your day searching for a post where I’m a vocal supporter. You’re going to have a long day. That’s not my brand of democratic politics.
    So you don’t support Black Lives Matter?
    Like the original hey don’t kill us for no reason version? Sure. This BLM as a giant movement encompassing everything, no I’m out. I am for things that increase the size of the middle class, and wish to see Black people join the middle class. Not black specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
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    I really have no idea what you’re talking about. If you mean BLM or ANTIFA or whatever, spend your day searching for a post where I’m a vocal supporter. You’re going to have a long day. That’s not my brand of democratic politics.
    So you don’t support Black Lives Matter?
    he said VOCAL supporter, so he just quietly supports Marxists and communists

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    As Gauchojake and BCR point out times have changed. What was just posted for shock now is now battlefront material.

    That’s not an issue for most of us of a certain generation. It’s still just Guilty lulz.

    Yet what is ironic is that nearly every original & made guy that I tuned in to follow begged for a moderator. This desire is years old. They weren’t complaining about dick pics.

    Give yourself a moment now to recollect exacty what they requested from you.

    What is common amongst them is that we knew a bit about their backstory. There was also a history and a shared community. I missed the peak years but loved the dynamic. Don’t give me “people have moved on to other social media”. That shared history is powerful juju and only found here. It was interesting to participate in or just lurk. People wanted to feel part of that club.

    You can cultivate that group or die on some free speech hill cause you don’t have the time or feel some libertarian principle is more important than your members (think customers).

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    So you don’t support Black Lives Matter?
    Like the original hey don’t kill us for no reason version? Sure. This BLM as a giant movement encompassing everything, no I’m out. I am for things that increase the size of the middle class, and wish to see Black people join the middle class. Not black specific.
    bcr you're a smart man, did you ever or do you really think cops are killing them for no reason? lol come on

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    So you don’t support Black Lives Matter?
    Like the original hey don’t kill us for no reason version? Sure. This BLM as a giant movement encompassing everything, no I’m out. I am for things that increase the size of the middle class, and wish to see Black people join the middle class. Not black specific.
    So then you’d agree that people on the forum who support BLM as a whole or spout Antifa propaganda should also be purged or censored along with the Bill Gates people?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    Like the original hey don’t kill us for no reason version? Sure. This BLM as a giant movement encompassing everything, no I’m out. I am for things that increase the size of the middle class, and wish to see Black people join the middle class. Not black specific.
    bcr you're a smart man, did you ever or do you really think cops are killing them for no reason? lol come on
    On very rare occasions, sure. You are the one who says he faces constant police harassment. Why would you struggle to believe that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
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    Like the original hey don’t kill us for no reason version? Sure. This BLM as a giant movement encompassing everything, no I’m out. I am for things that increase the size of the middle class, and wish to see Black people join the middle class. Not black specific.
    So then you’d agree that people on the forum who support BLM as a whole or spout Antifa propaganda should also be purged or censored along with the Bill Gates people?
    I didn’t ask nor recommend anyone be purged biff. You’re clearly confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    bcr you're a smart man, did you ever or do you really think cops are killing them for no reason? lol come on
    On very rare occasions, sure. You are the one who says he faces constant police harassment. Why would you struggle to believe that?
    I did when I was younger, yes, but 9 "unarmed" black people were killed by police in 2019, sure maybe one was a shit head racist cop, but it's not an EPIDEMIC of cops killing blacks like the media would have us believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    Yeah it’s tooooootally PFA that causes him the most problems with “polite company”.
    Well it technically is still accurate because I’m pretty sure it was posters here who asked him to make that



    It’s a different world now. Thomas was fairly conservative. PLO grew up listening to Drudge radio despite being gay. He was a conservative. Even now, he preferred the moderate over the progressive. Brandon isn’t some super liberal.

    This wasn’t generated by people here.

    No one here started a ban x thread.

    Druff started a thread asking the community about a very narrow issue that causes him problems from people he runs into at WSOP or radio listeners who would never participate and be associated with the forum.

    Most pointed out that slurs are a hot button, but if they have reluctance to join based on slurs, they’re obviously going to have a big problem with a dwai chasing people thread to thread being an asshole looking for attention.

    They are going to have a problem with the small handful of miserable people who derail every discussion with trolling.

    He made a point that he’s not going to ban extremist ideology, which is the bigger problem.

    The costs of a lockdown outweighs the benefits is a reasonable political conversation. That’s ideology.

    Bill Gates wants to chip me and Mike Dewine is a secret socialist globalist hiding as a fiscal conservative for 70 years is mental illness. That’s not ideology, but he isn’t going to stop it.

    So you can get rid of a word or words, but if someone is reluctant to be associated with a word, they very likely are going to have a problem with being associated with the most vocal posters being assholes who chase posters around trolling and/or mentally ill.

    I wouldn’t bother changing anything if I were him, unless people in his neighborhood are giving him grief because they googled him, or Ben’s parents friends. It’s not like some person at the WSOP is going to join because they banned a word and then find they love being trolled by losers. If they cared about a bad word in the first place, they aren’t going to like the place. That seems obvious.
    Ok then what about that bolded part??

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    Who here is pro-antifa? I don’t even know what antifa really is?

    Like dwai is making light of the rare cop who kills a black guy like it’s small, which is true. I went through the deaths since the riot. This was a month ago. At the time, two law enforcement officers were killed, both by a boogaloo or whatever the fuck they are called trying to start shit. About twenty other people. Almost all black, and most were part of the riots and got caught up in something. There were a few people who sounded like they were trying to intervene and help someone and got killed. That’s horrible.

    That’s 10 minutes of Covid.

    Where are the deaths being caused by BLM and ANTIFA? Are we taking about milkshakes or do we have bodies of white people piled up somewhere I’m unaware of? Point me to the list of dead innocents.

    I know who the nutjobs here are because I get to read them think Bill Gates is going to chip them and read them say Mike Dewine is a secret socialist. I see that mental illness here every day.

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    Y'all are pathetic. Ppl who say racist things here are just bad trolls, it's your own fault if u can't take care of them however u please

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Who here is pro-antifa? I don’t even know what antifa really is?

    Like dwai is making light of the rare cop who kills a black guy like it’s small, which is true. I went through the deaths since the riot. This was a month ago. At the time, two law enforcement officers were killed, both by a boogaloo or whatever the fuck they are called trying to start shit. About twenty other people. Almost all black, and most were part of the riots and got caught up in something. There were a few people who sounded like they were trying to intervene and help someone and got killed. That’s horrible.

    That’s 10 minutes of Covid.

    Where are the deaths being caused by BLM and ANTIFA? Are we taking about milkshakes or do we have bodies of white people piled up somewhere I’m unaware of? Point me to the list of dead innocents.

    I know who the nutjobs here are because I get to read them think Bill Gates is going to chip them and read them say Mike Dewine is a secret socialist. I see that mental illness here every day.
    sonatine, Sloppy Joe, gimmick, MumblesBadly, just to name a few

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Who here is pro-antifa? I don’t even know what antifa really is?

    Like dwai is making light of the rare cop who kills a black guy like it’s small, which is true. I went through the deaths since the riot. This was a month ago. At the time, two law enforcement officers were killed, both by a boogaloo or whatever the fuck they are called trying to start shit. About twenty other people. Almost all black, and most were part of the riots and got caught up in something. There were a few people who sounded like they were trying to intervene and help someone and got killed. That’s horrible.

    That’s 10 minutes of Covid.

    Where are the deaths being caused by BLM and ANTIFA? Are we taking about milkshakes or do we have bodies of white people piled up somewhere I’m unaware of? Point me to the list of dead innocents.

    I know who the nutjobs here are because I get to read them think Bill Gates is going to chip them and read them say Mike Dewine is a secret socialist. I see that mental illness here every day.
    - Connor Betts was a far left Antifa who shot and killed nine people in Dayton, Ohio.

    - Officer David Dorn was shot and killed in a BLM riot and NOT by a Boogaloo Boy, you’re wrong.

    - A woman was shot in the head in Indiana for saying All Lives Matter.

    - 4 people were shot in Chaz, two were killed.

    - Antifa firebombed an ICE facility and the guy was killed.

    - A man burned to death in a Minneapolis building, they didn’t find his body until two months later.

    - a man was shot and killed in Louisville, KY at a BLM
    occupy protest.

    - a 22 year old woman was shot and killed in Davenport IA at a BLm protest.



    Is that enough for you? And there’s even more.

    Antifa has occupied Portland for 75 straight days and you can’t be bothered to do some research on them. Either that or you’re repeating Antifa propaganda that they don’t exist. Are you? I’ve seen Antifa propaganda repeated by several posters on this board.

    I could literally make a strong argument that your post is running cover for extremist groups, in fact I believe it is, and Druff should ban it for extremist ideology under your rules.

     
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      1marley1: You can’t be this fucking stupid. Another dumb troll. Druff should just make people use real names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffCo99 View Post
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    Who here is pro-antifa? I don’t even know what antifa really is?

    Like dwai is making light of the rare cop who kills a black guy like it’s small, which is true. I went through the deaths since the riot. This was a month ago. At the time, two law enforcement officers were killed, both by a boogaloo or whatever the fuck they are called trying to start shit. About twenty other people. Almost all black, and most were part of the riots and got caught up in something. There were a few people who sounded like they were trying to intervene and help someone and got killed. That’s horrible.

    That’s 10 minutes of Covid.

    Where are the deaths being caused by BLM and ANTIFA? Are we taking about milkshakes or do we have bodies of white people piled up somewhere I’m unaware of? Point me to the list of dead innocents.

    I know who the nutjobs here are because I get to read them think Bill Gates is going to chip them and read them say Mike Dewine is a secret socialist. I see that mental illness here every day.
    - Connor Betts was a fat left Antifa who shot and killed nine people in Dayton, Ohio.

    - Officer David Dorn was shot and killed in a BLM riot and NOT by a Boogaloo Boy, you’re wrong.

    - A woman was shot in the head in Indiana for saying All Lives Matter.

    - 4 people were shot in Chaz, two were killed.

    - Antifa firebombed an ICE facility and the guy was killed.

    - A man burned to death in a Minneapolis building, they didn’t find his body until two months later.

    - a man was shot and killed in Louisville, KY at a BLM
    occupy protest.

    - a 22 year old woman was shot and killed in Davenport IA at a BLm protest.



    Is that enough for you? And there’s even more.

    Antifa has occupied Portland for 75 straight days and you can’t be bothered to do some research on them. Either that or you’re repeating Antifa propaganda that they don’t exist. Are you? I’ve seen Antifa propaganda repeated by several posters on this board.

    I could literally make a strong argument that your post is running cover for extremist groups, in fact I believe it is, and Druff should ban it for extremist ideology under your rules.
    yikes, BRO YOU KILLED HIM

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    BCR HAS LEFT THE CHAT

     
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      1marley1: BCR ended you fools pages ago. Catch up.

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    if druff changes the site so he can make more $, i will support the unbanning of FPS russia

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    1marley1: You can’t be this fucking stupid. Another dumb troll. Druff should just make people use real names.
    says the red repping troll named 1marley1

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    BCR, one question, why the fuck are you replying to these idiots?

     
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    Slava Ukraini!

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    I see a handful of murders over the last few years. All horrible. We have a murder problem in this country. You just hand waved 9 bodies away as a small deal. I agree given their job, it’s nonsensical to defund police over it. I see another handful of bodies over the last two years. All horrible.

    If I was split I’d point out that cop he listed was 77 and going to die anyway, but not being a sociopath, it’s a horrible tragedy.

    Biff never makes a point, except to idiots. Todd made the thread. No one, including myself, called for anyone to be banned.

    If there were people here saying “good, I’m glad those people got killed” then link it. Link any I support antifa and the killing of innocent people posts. I will condemn it. You’re looking at the wrong guy if you’re looking at someone to be all yo I love BLM.

    Among Dems, I suggest you peruse the primary thread. My response at black voters coalescing around Joe Biden was they seem to want to be the sole victims, and I’m not down with that. I am for a more broad populist uprising that has to do with jobs and tax cuts for billionaires and the looting of the country and health care. That’s the type of dem I am. I don’t give a fuck about social causes other than they are generally a distraction from the big picture.

    I don’t care who is fucking who or who wants to cut their dick off and staple gun it to their forehead as long as I don’t have to pay for it or watch it, and I am for live and let live if they aren’t bothering me. That’s the extent I am into social causes. No marching or petitions for me.

     
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