NJ Poker Player Douglas Conway (Unifro/FatalFlaws online) is a Scammer

[nunbeater]

You are incorrect.

You can only be held criminally liable if they can link your deposit with an intent to fund criminal activity.

For example, let's say I e-mailed you, "Hey, I want to rob a bank next week, but can't afford a gun. Can you put $600 in my account so I can buy one?" If you agreed and then put $600 in my account, and later the police found our messages back and forth discussing what I would do with the $600, then you would be criminally liable.

But let's say you just decided to be nice and put $600 in my account because you like my radio show and wanted to show your appreciation. And then I go take out the $600 and buy a gun to rob a bank with it. You could NOT be held liable, as you were not knowingly funding criminal activity. It is absurd to say that you bear responsibility for what someone does with money after you gave it to them, if you originally gave the money for innocent purposes.

In this case, there is a long electronic trail of you owing the $1000 for a friendly wager related to poker, so there's no way you could ever be held responsible for what is done with that cash. Even if George subsequently shipped the money to ISIS to fund the next beheading, you would have a reasonable answer in that you owed this money as a result of a bet, and could prove it.

This is a ridiculous excuse on your part. If you feel I'm wrong, link me to a law on the books which supports your point.

Regardless, it is painfully obvious to me and everyone that you are dodging this debt. Your excuses are absurd, and this has dragged for months. There are many legal ways to transfer money which put you at ZERO risk, and you refuse. Instead, you keep demanding that the person meet you at a casino during a narrow window of time, and then when they agree, you don't show up.

Only a complete idiot would believe you are anything but a welcher here.

Rather than make idiotic excuses, why not just agree to a payment plan and be done with it?

Regarding the depositing money into unknown accounts, you are not entirely correct. I do not have the time to dig up specific case law to show you, nor do I have the desire. I would simply point out that someone unfamiliar with specific legalities or someone without a bankruptcy law degree is unlikely to have any idea what I am talking about. You are certainly entitled to you opinion that I am dodging, but I can assure I was at the borg last night. As I said, I went down with someone who can also vouch that I was there. The narrow window of time was only for this one instance. I offered at least 4 times before this one to meet up in person, often giving several days advance notice. Regardless, I don't see what interest you personally have in this other than we are posting on your forums.

You don't have the time or desire to dig up the law that you just pulled out of your fucking ass? Pathetic.

Pay that myan his myonees

[Avon Barksdale]

I love when a scammer gets outed like this...

Douglas, Douglas, Douglas... when are you going to learn?

[Dan Druff]

I don't know why he even bothered responding here.

Did he really think anyone would buy this BS and come away with the belief of, "Oh, this Douglas actually is trying to pay and isn't so bad, after all..."?

100% clear this guy is dodging the debt. Everything about this situation is textbook no-pay, aside from the "it's illegal to pay you this way" excuse, which I admit is a new one.

[nunbeater]

I don't know why he even bothered responding here.

Did he really think anyone would buy this BS and come away with the belief of, "Oh, this Douglas actually is trying to pay and isn't so bad, after all..."?

100% clear this guy is dodging the debt. Everything about this situation is textbook no-pay, aside from the "it's illegal to pay you this way" excuse, which I admit is a new one.

I mean I will give him fucking props for that one....clever boy I guess. Too bad ten seconds on Google destroys that argument.

[Salty_Aus]

Out him as a deadbeat, broke, welcher to whoever will listen.

Kiss the money goodbye and just have a good laugh at rubbishing his fine name wherever possible.

Libel and slander is a rich man's game, obviously he has no money.

Makes me laugh when a deadbeat welcher, takes on an indignant, smug attitude and tries to blame the victim.... most people with half a brain can see through this pretty easy.

Fuck with him as much as you can, but do it for laughs and entertainment and don't get angry.

[Hockey Guy]

FatalFlaws is obviously a comedian.

Can't anonymously deposit money into somebody's account because he doesn't know them & somehow might be found liable if it's found there's something illegal associated with the account(because we all know that law enforcement is totally all over this kinda shit to the point that they go over every suveillance camera in every bank daily & go through the laborious task of matching every deposit with any person making it using state-of-the-art facial recognition software & also scan every bill that ever comes in for DNA & matches that up to their DNA database that includes every person in the world because that's just how they fucking roll) but expects everyone to accept a vouch for his honesty that he was @ Borgata by some totally random person. Sounds perfectly logical to me.

duped or the other guy will accept a check but FF can't send a check in the mail? Money order? Cash? I've sent large sums of cash through the mail(like a n*****), before I set up a paypal account, to a few people on this very site & they reeeeeeeally, reeeeeeealy can vouch for that, not that this would mean fuck all to somebody that can't even set foot in a bank for fear that the government & law enforcement is ready to pounce using the already mentioned state-of-the-art law enforcement tools & send him to jail because we all know that they catch every money laundering scheme or crime that has ever happened in the history of the world.

Send the guy that will vouch for you into the bank to make that anonymous cash deposit into whoever's account FFS. Is everybody you know as stupid/paranoid as you?

Put your tinfoil hat on to protect you from the bank cameras & get down to the bank & pay the debt.

On a side note, this would be even funnier if it turned out to be Jasep.

[duped_samaritan]

Thanks everyone, had a feeling he would react this way. Would def appreciate any ideas going forward. I'm totally

If he were the type of scum that just told me to fuck off bc he wasn't paying or just ignore me, I'd probably not be willing to put nearly as much energy into this. But the way this guy handled everything is providing a lot of motivation to at least figure out why the hell he thinks this is ok.

After doing a bunch of research I am sure there is something very off, but I can't figure out what it is.

He still has yet to confirm his name, but there is a 29 Yo Douglas Conway from Cherry Hill, NJ.

I did quite a bit a research on him.

Found his records from elementary school through junior year of highschool. (2002). He played a lot of chess.

But then after he turns 18, absolutely no record of him for the past 11-12 years. I don't see how it would be possible to be 18 years old in 2003, when social media was being introduced, consider yourself a "professional poker player", and from 2003-2014 have absolutely nothing on the internet about you. (his pocketfives profile has his name, that's it.) No pictures anywhere.


He's also quite possibly one of the biggest nits I've ever played online with. Obv I've never met him in person, but by the way he plays, and what he plays, but pretty sure Todd would look like Dan Blizerian compared to him.

[duped_samaritan]

Am i missing the edit post button or does it not exist? lol

[cicakman]

Hey I just made this account after finally linked me the thread. Im George Cicak/glytterpyss from the original bet.

[Dan Druff]

Am i missing the edit post button or does it not exist? lol

It exists. It's in the right corner of each message, right next to "Reply With Quote".

It might go away after a certain amount of time... I forget the setting I put for it.

[mulva]

Am i missing the edit post button or does it not exist? lol

It exists. It's in the right corner of each message, right next to "Reply With Quote".

It might go away after a certain amount of time... I forget the setting I put for it.

the edit goes away far to quickly. does it even make it a day?

lol @ doug conway shoveling that shit.

[Crowe Diddly]

It exists. It's in the right corner of each message, right next to "Reply With Quote".

It might go away after a certain amount of time... I forget the setting I put for it.

the edit goes away far to quickly. does it even make it a day?

lol @ doug conway shoveling that shit.

The edit post thing doesn't go away. I can edit 2012 posts still.

[Hockey Guy]

the edit goes away far to quickly. does it even make it a day?

lol @ doug conway shoveling that shit.

The edit post thing doesn't go away. I can edit 2012 posts still.

Yup, it's only there on your posts & stays forever AFAIK.

Can you imagine the hilarity if you could edit any post? I take that back, it would be a gong show.

[ftpjesus]

Fatal Flaws aka Doug:

I am the owner of this site. My name is Todd Witteles. I have been in poker for 14 years, and have never once been accused of scamming or any other form of mishandling of bets or money.

I would like to volunteer to be an intermediary to accept the money. I'm pretty sure both duped_samaritan and George would be willing to state publicly that they are okay with this.

I have several major bank accounts, Paypal, and will even be happy to receive a check or money order in the mail from you.

How about you arrange to send ME the $1000, and I will make sure it gets to the right person.

This is not a joke. If you are serious about settling the matter, please strongly consider doing this (or just find a way to immediately pay these guys directly).

Furthermore, you can also deposit cash into a bank account without giving your identification. Just walk into a bank, say, "I want to deposit this cash into this account number for this person's name", and they will take it without question or identification. I know this for certain because I have a friend who does this for me frequently, when he needs to pay back loans I've made to him.

Hello Todd,

No offense, but I don't know you. I would not be comfortable handing over $1k to a complete stranger. As for depositing cash into a bank account, I have already outlined why I am not comfortable doing this above. Whether you show ID or not, the bank will have a record on camera of who deposited the money into the account. Then, as I explained above, if that same account is found to be used in connection with illegal activity, persons found to have deposited money into that account can be held criminally liable. This is a legal fact, I am not just making this up. Me and Finally agreed to meet last night at borg, I was there, he was not. I have no further interest in settling a debt with anyone other than the person that I made this bet with initially, in whatever way that we can both agree to. Also, I understand that this is your site, but I am only responding to this thread in response to finally posting on here that I am a scammer. I don't see how this is any of your business personally other than two people posting on your forums.

Dude, your making every fucking excuse why you cant pay up. At this point its put up or shut the fuck up and take the scamtard label with pride because all you've done is dodge the fucking payout for six months.. Either you got the money or you dont. If you do pay the fuck up if not admit it make payments and clear your name otherwise you come across as a complete fucking toolbox (no offense to Doug Lee) scammer.

[RalphPolo]

What a jackass. To win a libel case you would actually have to prove it, moron. Everything finally said is true. You're a fraud and an idiot.

[Avon Barksdale]

Bump cause some clown is soliciting help from me via PM in regards to this 6 year old, $1000 welching.

[Salty_Aus]

Bump cause some clown is soliciting help from me via PM in regards to this 6 year old, $1000 welching.

Ditto, and of course I have no idea who this guy is.... let alone being "good friends"

[JeffDime]

This reminds me of how many "friends" I lost simply because they didn't want to pay their debt. One guy begged me for just $300 at the bellagio like 12 years ago and literally disappeared off the face of the earth. Of course I never tried to track him down over such a small debt but it's just incredible.

No upside to lending money if your a civilian once that money is handed over the power dynamic completely shifts from the lender to the borrower. I figured I've not been paid 6 figures easy. Some debts loans. I once had a bookie say he is out of business and can't pay me. I was once had a bookie say come to my place with a gun and you may have a shot at getting the money. I bet exclusively in casinos or on legal apps now.

[Tankazoo]

people who are owed money need to nut up and take measures