Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

you completely dodged everything i said.

can you also please tell me wtf "They couldn't keep the impeachment inquiry narrow," means?

umm... yes, they did. it was focused solely on trump's attempted extortion of the ukraine. that's it. why do you keep saying otherwise? is your goal to try to convince people that don't follow the news? yeah, i'm probably the wrong audience for you.

"the dems expanded it to an overall indictment of everything Trump, basically admitting that it was to overturn the 2016 election result."

i swear to god i try to keep things civil and then i read shit like this and it makes it difficult.

clearly your sentence is not true.

there are two articles of impeachment. the first is for attempting to extort the ukraine for his political gain. the second is for refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas relating to the extortion plot (obstruction).

if you really didn't know that these are the only two articles of impeachment, you shouldn't be offering an opinion because it's so poorly informed. if you did know better, you're deliberately lying.
Blake surely you will agree the second article is bullshit. Every president and has ignored congressional subpoenas. Every president. Hell obama and holder did it regularly. It undermines whatever legitimacy one wants to attribute to the first one. There are three co-equal branches of government.
completely agree with you as to the 2nd, which is why i was focusing on the first. although i disagree that the dumb 2nd article invalidates the first one. they must have poll tested the word "obstruction" and went with it. they shouldn't have, but oh well.

re the obstruction charge, i don't even understand the concept of it. every target of a subpoena gets to make objections. that's what courts are for. if the house got a court order that trump refused, they may have something. as it stands, it's an idiotic charge.