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    drexel,

    i wasn't the biggest fan of you before this thread. now i think you are a legit dude. you came out big time ahead here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    I do not want to add any more fuel to this, so this will once and for all be my last post regarding this debacle.

    Last night I became very tilted and angry for a number of reasons.

    I found it unfair that this thread with my full name in it was allowed to go on for as long as it did without any proof whatsoever being provided that I was guilty of anything I was accused of.

    One of the first accusations leveled against me stated that "Me and my streetwalker girlfriend" stole money. It was agreed upon the amount I was accused of stealing was $140. I played for Druff a voicemail from Raw/Slim that clearly stated he didn't want me to come to The rio to bring back his change and receipts. Also, I sincerely expected nothing for doing him these favors and it was only at his insistence that I kept the change for helping him.

    He had almost a week to provide proof in this thread, yet did not. He only continued to level the same accusations towards me.

    Friends, family, my poker peers listen to this podcast. My reputation in this city is paramount to me, as I'm sure most of you can understand.

    It was agreed days before that unless raw/slim provided some proof that I in some way stole/scammed him, that he would not get air time to slander me further.

    I understand the chat wanted to hear him for the lulz, but at my expense, I found this unfair.

    It is one thing for two forum posters (i.e. badguy23, tmlk) to duke it out on the radio, but again I am someone whose name is out there, who lives in Vegas and interacts with many people who listen to this podcast.

    I understand that the pressure from the chat forced Druff and Vwls to ask me to allow him on. I understand they didn't want to appear as if they were protecting me. That is also why I did not want to trash raw/slim as i thought that would also be unfair since he was not going to be allowed to respond on air.

    I realized if I didn't relent and let Raw/slim speak, it would look like I was hiding something, which isnt the case.

    To me this sets a very bad and ugly precedent where someone is allowed to level allegations against someone (and again using my full name) show no proof after a sufficient amount of time, yet be allowed air time on a show I DO FOR ENJOYMENT AND AM NOT COMPENSATED FOR.

    The way all this has been handled and him appearing last night ruined my mood and desire to continue last night. Instead of sitting there quiet and angry throughout the rest of the show, I chose to leave.

    I know Druff and Vwls meant no harm in putting me on the spot, as they felt they were on the spot as well. Over the last few months Druff and I have talked hours and he has become a good friend to me. Ironic.

    At the same time, again I am not happy about how this has been handled since the beginning and I will reevaluate in the next week what my future plans are.
    I can only imagine how terrible it would be if someone was falsely accusing me of stealing, and using my full real name for anyone to find on the internet. It would also add insult to injury if I tried to help that person out and they turned on me in a public and nasty way.

    Really this all raises a larger question of how the site should be run going forward, and a set of rules in terms of how accusations will be dealt with will probably have to be made. This probably merits it's own thread, and while Druff is the sole owner, this site is nothing without it's users, and there should be a robust discussion on how all future accusations should be handled.

    But to imply that Druff is not a good friend because of the way he handled this seems out of bounds. And honestly he did you a favour by letting rawwolf on the air since he sounded like a lunatic. Perhaps your full name should never have been in the thread, but the site is in it's infancy and there has not yet really been a set of rules discussed over what is fair/not fair in an accusation. And whatever is decided, those rules need to apply to any accusation, even if it's against the owner of the site itself or his co-hosts on the radio show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daredevil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    I do not want to add any more fuel to this, so this will once and for all be my last post regarding this debacle.

    Last night I became very tilted and angry for a number of reasons.

    I found it unfair that this thread with my full name in it was allowed to go on for as long as it did without any proof whatsoever being provided that I was guilty of anything I was accused of.

    One of the first accusations leveled against me stated that "Me and my streetwalker girlfriend" stole money. It was agreed upon the amount I was accused of stealing was $140. I played for Druff a voicemail from Raw/Slim that clearly stated he didn't want me to come to The rio to bring back his change and receipts. Also, I sincerely expected nothing for doing him these favors and it was only at his insistence that I kept the change for helping him.

    He had almost a week to provide proof in this thread, yet did not. He only continued to level the same accusations towards me.

    Friends, family, my poker peers listen to this podcast. My reputation in this city is paramount to me, as I'm sure most of you can understand.

    It was agreed days before that unless raw/slim provided some proof that I in some way stole/scammed him, that he would not get air time to slander me further.

    I understand the chat wanted to hear him for the lulz, but at my expense, I found this unfair.

    It is one thing for two forum posters (i.e. badguy23, tmlk) to duke it out on the radio, but again I am someone whose name is out there, who lives in Vegas and interacts with many people who listen to this podcast.

    I understand that the pressure from the chat forced Druff and Vwls to ask me to allow him on. I understand they didn't want to appear as if they were protecting me. That is also why I did not want to trash raw/slim as i thought that would also be unfair since he was not going to be allowed to respond on air.

    I realized if I didn't relent and let Raw/slim speak, it would look like I was hiding something, which isnt the case.

    To me this sets a very bad and ugly precedent where someone is allowed to level allegations against someone (and again using my full name) show no proof after a sufficient amount of time, yet be allowed air time on a show I DO FOR ENJOYMENT AND AM NOT COMPENSATED FOR.

    The way all this has been handled and him appearing last night ruined my mood and desire to continue last night. Instead of sitting there quiet and angry throughout the rest of the show, I chose to leave.

    I know Druff and Vwls meant no harm in putting me on the spot, as they felt they were on the spot as well. Over the last few months Druff and I have talked hours and he has become a good friend to me. Ironic.

    At the same time, again I am not happy about how this has been handled since the beginning and I will reevaluate in the next week what my future plans are.
    I can only imagine how terrible it would be if someone was falsely accusing me of stealing, and using my full real name for anyone to find on the internet. It would also add insult to injury if I tried to help that person out and they turned on me in a public and nasty way.

    Really this all raises a larger question of how the site should be run going forward, and a set of rules in terms of how accusations will be dealt with will probably have to be made. This probably merits it's own thread, and while Druff is the sole owner, this site is nothing without it's users, and there should be a robust discussion on how all future accusations should be handled.

    But to imply that Druff is not a good friend because of the way he handled this seems out of bounds. And honestly he did you a favour by letting rawwolf on the air since he sounded like a lunatic. Perhaps your full name should never have been in the thread, but the site is in it's infancy and there has not yet really been a set of rules discussed over what is fair/not fair in an accusation. And whatever is decided, those rules need to apply to any accusation, even if it's against the owner of the site itself or his co-hosts on the radio show.
    You misread my post.

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    WHY HASN'T THIS THREAD BEEN DELETED YET? THIS IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE ON THE INTERNET.

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    I guess I did misread your post Drexel, sadly it's hard to read context in text form. I thought you were saying that it's ironic that recently you though of Druff as a friend, when you feel he dealt with this matter poorly. You said you had a problem with how this was handled from the start so who else could be talking about in that regard? You also brought up your future with the site so I thought all this meant you were upset at Druff. Sorry if I took it all the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    I do not want to add any more fuel to this, so this will once and for all be my last post regarding this debacle.

    Last night I became very tilted and angry for a number of reasons.

    I found it unfair that this thread with my full name in it was allowed to go on for as long as it did without any proof whatsoever being provided that I was guilty of anything I was accused of.

    One of the first accusations leveled against me stated that "Me and my streetwalker girlfriend" stole money. It was agreed upon the amount I was accused of stealing was $140. I played for Druff a voicemail from Raw/Slim that clearly stated he didn't want me to come to The rio to bring back his change and receipts. Also, I sincerely expected nothing for doing him these favors and it was only at his insistence that I kept the change for helping him.

    He had almost a week to provide proof in this thread, yet did not. He only continued to level the same accusations towards me.

    Friends, family, my poker peers listen to this podcast. My reputation in this city is paramount to me, as I'm sure most of you can understand.

    It was agreed days before that unless raw/slim provided some proof that I in some way stole/scammed him, that he would not get air time to slander me further.

    I understand the chat wanted to hear him for the lulz, but at my expense, I found this unfair.

    It is one thing for two forum posters (i.e. badguy23, tmlk) to duke it out on the radio, but again I am someone whose name is out there, who lives in Vegas and interacts with many people who listen to this podcast.

    I understand that the pressure from the chat forced Druff and Vwls to ask me to allow him on. I understand they didn't want to appear as if they were protecting me. That is also why I did not want to trash raw/slim as i thought that would also be unfair since he was not going to be allowed to respond on air.

    I realized if I didn't relent and let Raw/slim speak, it would look like I was hiding something, which isnt the case.

    To me this sets a very bad and ugly precedent where someone is allowed to level allegations against someone (and again using my full name) show no proof after a sufficient amount of time, yet be allowed air time on a show I DO FOR ENJOYMENT AND AM NOT COMPENSATED FOR.

    The way all this has been handled and him appearing last night ruined my mood and desire to continue last night. Instead of sitting there quiet and angry throughout the rest of the show, I chose to leave.

    I know Druff and Vwls meant no harm in putting me on the spot, as they felt they were on the spot as well. Over the last few months Druff and I have talked hours and he has become a good friend to me. Ironic.

    At the same time, again I am not happy about how this has been handled since the beginning and I will reevaluate in the next week what my future plans are.


    LOL - you did not even stay on the show for 1 full minute when i called - lmao -

    if this ever gets debsted by Me and Drexel - It will all look so different -

    Your reputation in LV should be hurt here Drexel - because you repeatedly lied to a random to be funny - Well, i did not think it was funny -

    Do yourself a favor and debate me on this situation next week, if you have any balls whatsoever -

    If you are so righteous here, why run away? why hang up instantly? why not confront the situation head on?

    Because you will lose and you know it -

    period

    slim t

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    WHY HASN'T THIS THREAD BEEN DELETED YET? THIS IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE ON THE INTERNET.
    Why should the thread be deleted Moose? Dan did the right thing by redacting Zods name, but deleting threads sets a bad precident IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim T View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    I do not want to add any more fuel to this, so this will once and for all be my last post regarding this debacle.

    Last night I became very tilted and angry for a number of reasons.

    I found it unfair that this thread with my full name in it was allowed to go on for as long as it did without any proof whatsoever being provided that I was guilty of anything I was accused of.

    One of the first accusations leveled against me stated that "Me and my streetwalker girlfriend" stole money. It was agreed upon the amount I was accused of stealing was $140. I played for Druff a voicemail from Raw/Slim that clearly stated he didn't want me to come to The rio to bring back his change and receipts. Also, I sincerely expected nothing for doing him these favors and it was only at his insistence that I kept the change for helping him.

    He had almost a week to provide proof in this thread, yet did not. He only continued to level the same accusations towards me.

    Friends, family, my poker peers listen to this podcast. My reputation in this city is paramount to me, as I'm sure most of you can understand.

    It was agreed days before that unless raw/slim provided some proof that I in some way stole/scammed him, that he would not get air time to slander me further.

    I understand the chat wanted to hear him for the lulz, but at my expense, I found this unfair.

    It is one thing for two forum posters (i.e. badguy23, tmlk) to duke it out on the radio, but again I am someone whose name is out there, who lives in Vegas and interacts with many people who listen to this podcast.

    I understand that the pressure from the chat forced Druff and Vwls to ask me to allow him on. I understand they didn't want to appear as if they were protecting me. That is also why I did not want to trash raw/slim as i thought that would also be unfair since he was not going to be allowed to respond on air.

    I realized if I didn't relent and let Raw/slim speak, it would look like I was hiding something, which isnt the case.

    To me this sets a very bad and ugly precedent where someone is allowed to level allegations against someone (and again using my full name) show no proof after a sufficient amount of time, yet be allowed air time on a show I DO FOR ENJOYMENT AND AM NOT COMPENSATED FOR.

    The way all this has been handled and him appearing last night ruined my mood and desire to continue last night. Instead of sitting there quiet and angry throughout the rest of the show, I chose to leave.

    I know Druff and Vwls meant no harm in putting me on the spot, as they felt they were on the spot as well. Over the last few months Druff and I have talked hours and he has become a good friend to me. Ironic.

    At the same time, again I am not happy about how this has been handled since the beginning and I will reevaluate in the next week what my future plans are.


    LOL - you did not even stay on the show for 1 full minute when i called - lmao -

    if this ever gets debsted by Me and Drexel - It will all look so different -

    Your reputation in LV should be hurt here Drexel - because you repeatedly lied to a random to be funny - Well, i did not think it was funny -

    Do yourself a favor and debate me on this situation next week, if you have any balls whatsoever -

    If you are so righteous here, why run away? why hang up instantly? why not confront the situation head on?

    Because you will lose and you know it -

    period

    slim t
    STFU asshole. Unless you are offering an apology, nobody here gives a shit what you have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim T View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    I do not want to add any more fuel to this, so this will once and for all be my last post regarding this debacle.

    Last night I became very tilted and angry for a number of reasons.

    I found it unfair that this thread with my full name in it was allowed to go on for as long as it did without any proof whatsoever being provided that I was guilty of anything I was accused of.

    One of the first accusations leveled against me stated that "Me and my streetwalker girlfriend" stole money. It was agreed upon the amount I was accused of stealing was $140. I played for Druff a voicemail from Raw/Slim that clearly stated he didn't want me to come to The rio to bring back his change and receipts. Also, I sincerely expected nothing for doing him these favors and it was only at his insistence that I kept the change for helping him.

    He had almost a week to provide proof in this thread, yet did not. He only continued to level the same accusations towards me.

    Friends, family, my poker peers listen to this podcast. My reputation in this city is paramount to me, as I'm sure most of you can understand.

    It was agreed days before that unless raw/slim provided some proof that I in some way stole/scammed him, that he would not get air time to slander me further.

    I understand the chat wanted to hear him for the lulz, but at my expense, I found this unfair.

    It is one thing for two forum posters (i.e. badguy23, tmlk) to duke it out on the radio, but again I am someone whose name is out there, who lives in Vegas and interacts with many people who listen to this podcast.

    I understand that the pressure from the chat forced Druff and Vwls to ask me to allow him on. I understand they didn't want to appear as if they were protecting me. That is also why I did not want to trash raw/slim as i thought that would also be unfair since he was not going to be allowed to respond on air.

    I realized if I didn't relent and let Raw/slim speak, it would look like I was hiding something, which isnt the case.

    To me this sets a very bad and ugly precedent where someone is allowed to level allegations against someone (and again using my full name) show no proof after a sufficient amount of time, yet be allowed air time on a show I DO FOR ENJOYMENT AND AM NOT COMPENSATED FOR.

    The way all this has been handled and him appearing last night ruined my mood and desire to continue last night. Instead of sitting there quiet and angry throughout the rest of the show, I chose to leave.

    I know Druff and Vwls meant no harm in putting me on the spot, as they felt they were on the spot as well. Over the last few months Druff and I have talked hours and he has become a good friend to me. Ironic.

    At the same time, again I am not happy about how this has been handled since the beginning and I will reevaluate in the next week what my future plans are.


    LOL - you did not even stay on the show for 1 full minute when i called - lmao -

    if this ever gets debsted by Me and Drexel - It will all look so different -

    Your reputation in LV should be hurt here Drexel - because you repeatedly lied to a random to be funny - Well, i did not think it was funny -

    Do yourself a favor and debate me on this situation next week, if you have any balls whatsoever -

    If you are so righteous here, why run away? why hang up instantly? why not confront the situation head on?

    Because you will lose and you know it -

    period

    slim t

    Druff! Please I.P. ban this asshole. This is getting fucking ridiculous.
    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Lol at the amount of effort that druff's friends have to exert trying to do an internet podcast without offending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daredevil View Post
    I guess I did misread your post Drexel, sadly it's hard to read context in text form. I thought you were saying that it's ironic that recently you though of Druff as a friend, when you feel he dealt with this matter poorly. You said you had a problem with how this was handled from the start so who else could be talking about in that regard? You also brought up your future with the site so I thought all this meant you were upset at Druff. Sorry if I took it all the wrong way.

    I can see the confusion. I used the term "ironic" referring to how things unfortunately ended on the previous site we were both a part of.

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    At this point I do feel that Slim/Wolf should be banned until he can pm Druff a shred of proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim T View Post



    LOL - you did not even stay on the show for 1 full minute when i called - lmao -

    if this ever gets debsted by Me and Drexel - It will all look so different -

    Your reputation in LV should be hurt here Drexel - because you repeatedly lied to a random to be funny - Well, i did not think it was funny -

    Do yourself a favor and debate me on this situation next week
    , if you have any balls whatsoever -

    If you are so righteous here, why run away? why hang up instantly? why not confront the situation head on?

    Because you will lose and you know it -

    period

    slim t

    Druff! Please I.P. ban this asshole. This is getting fucking ridiculous.
    Honestly, enough is enough. Why is he even still allowed to post here?

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    SlimT should 100% be banned at this point, its beyond frustrating and pathetic. Drexels name isnt remotely hurt by what you've done in this thread Slim, he comes out looking terrific and you come out looking like an obsessed addict.

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    He is making an absolute mockery of this site. He might as well walk up to Druff and spit in his face.
    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Lol at the amount of effort that druff's friends have to exert trying to do an internet podcast without offending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daredevil View Post
    At this point I do feel that Slim/Wolf should be banned until he can pm Druff a shred of proof.

    I posted the bet text - i explained the blood - i explained the time frame of the situation -
    do these three independent ideas on the issue mean that i have not posted a shred of proof?

    i dont get it - seems like a debate is in order - and i can overnight my phone to Druff before the next show -



    If Druff - or whoever wants to ban me it is fine - i wont be mad - whatever

    i did not expect to win this forum over, but i did think that Drexel would be man enough to openly debate this entire situation on air and let the people decide - but he insta hung up -

    LOL

    slim t

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim T View Post



    LOL - you did not even stay on the show for 1 full minute when i called - lmao -

    if this ever gets debsted by Me and Drexel - It will all look so different -

    Your reputation in LV should be hurt here Drexel - because you repeatedly lied to a random to be funny - Well, i did not think it was funny -

    Do yourself a favor and debate me on this situation next week, if you have any balls whatsoever -

    If you are so righteous here, why run away? why hang up instantly? why not confront the situation head on?

    Because you will lose and you know it -

    period

    slim t
    STFU asshole. Unless you are offering an apology, nobody here gives a shit what you have to say.

    lol - tony is funny - i bet you are a pretty man tony - thanks for the good times pal

    slim t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Hate to say I told you so
    rrrriiiiiiiiiiggghhhhhhtttttt.............


    You're absolutely right. I thought about that just before reopening this thread just now, it was a dumb thing to say. I have to admit, it was pretty sweet to nail this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    WHY HASN'T THIS THREAD BEEN DELETED YET? THIS IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE ON THE INTERNET.
    Why should the thread be deleted Moose? Dan did the right thing by redacting Zods name, but deleting threads sets a bad precident IMO.
    bad for what?

    if this thread suddenly disappeared, what would be different?

    the website would be better, the forum would be rid of the trash slim t, we wouldn't have to deal with the potential loss of the star member of the radio show.

    i mean sounds like it would be so horrible.

    it's a false accusation with 30 pages of no proof by a toothless cancer ridden idiot.

    just delete it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    I cant believe I just found this thread.

    My luck with meeting people from the internet has been nothing short of phenomenal. I can rattle off 20+ names off the cuff that Ive spent quality time with and say with absolute confidence that Id open my doors to any of them without reservation.

    Except Vegas. He voted against me getting my modshop back at Skatz.

    I did?

    LOL! Gaysex lies.

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