We pray for understanding as we all occasionally request back door action by accident, when we tried to call an electrician. It happens, it simply happens.
the 16 shots were not illegal. In my opinion, they were excessive. I told you that multiple times. I cant state they were justified. They just werent illegal.
I didnt vote for Trump. Kasich was the guy I liked. I even went to his town hall, and you know this. How many times have I told you I didnt vote for Trump? It has to be over a dozen already. And you cant even say that Im voting for Trump when it comes time to vote for Trump. Just because I defend someone, it doesnt mean Im voting for them.
yes, my brother is a cop. You got one thing accurate, and if you got THAT one wrong, you should be institutionalized
You said in an earlier thread that you had no choice but to vote for Trump because Democrats have ruined Chicago etc etc, Chicago has gone to shit and your logic is Democrats. I then explained how in many places Democrats have done great work and in others Republicans had. For every Detroit there was a Minneapolis.
I have asked you point blank if you think it is morally right for the cop that shot that man 16 times to remain a cop and if you felt comfortable with him remaining a cop and carrying a gun. You said yes. What am I getting wrong? You are clearly justifying it.
We pray for understanding as we all occasionally request back door action by accident, when we tried to call an electrician. It happens, it simply happens.
Can't you two just call each other on the phone with this stuff?
Yes, I feel like Im being forced to vote for Trump, because voting Dem will continue the downward spiral. Im in a terrible spot, from a personal convictions and integrity spot. There is about a 90% chance I will not vote because of it. I still dont know who will be running when all is said and done. It could still be Ryan vs Biden. Who knows.
Is it morally right? Based on what the police have told me, THEY feel that he was justified. I see him getting off and not getting the 1st degree charge. I have not heard any evidence yet that he should NOT be a cop (although I heard some language that he allegedly used, but no one was absolutely certain he said those things), so yes, I think he should continue to be a cop. He hasnt been charged AND CONVICTED of anything yet. Until facts come out in trial, we are all speculating. I truly think he will be found innocent. It doesnt mean everything was justified, but based on training and the laws, and what I was told happened, he should be found not guilty. Justified? I dont know. Dont have all the facts.
Personally, depending on what they use as their defense could make a big difference. Its also hard to justify why you shot at the guys HAND/ARM with most of the shots, when they are supposed to shoot at chest/center mass. People focus on the 16 shots, but how many of those shots were at the weapon, hitting the dudes arm? I think there were close to 12 shots that hit arms.
Its quite amusing. We should film it sometime. We could be joking around about something, and then if something police related comes on, or I open my big mouth about the CPD, he and his wife just unload on me, and then we go back and forth until his wife rolls her eyes and looks at us like idiots, and then we change topics and snuggle.
Muck Ficon,
Please educate us on laws and tell the class WHAT THE OFFICER DID THAT WAS ILLEGAL
and when you cant....
it means that you cant charge the officer with doing anything wrong, because ALL HE DID was follow THE LAWS and HIS TRAINING, which would mean he was doing his job properly
I await your attempt at a well thought out response
<shakes head>
I dont care how many times you think we went over this, you are STILL WRONG, and you will be unable to answer my question, BUT, to respond to YOUR statement, for like the 2nd or 3rd time, watch THIS video, starting at the 5 minute mark, for a few minutes, and it will completely explain why HE was the one to fire, and was pretty much the only one in a good position TO fire, and was the only one WHOSE LIFE WAS IN IMMEDIATE DANGER.
Then, you can apologize for your question
THEN, you can respond to my question from a few posts ago.
no offense drk, obviously we'll never agree on anything police related, but you're fucked in the head. but i give you props for fighting your side of the fight.
Right?
I can't believe he is till at it.
He posted that stupid video again? 45 minutes to tell us our eyes are lying to us.
He hasn't changed one person mind, but still talks like he is in the majority and we are idiots.
I tried to bet him on this, and after all the BS he posts, he thought he should win if Van Dyke got 2nd murderer or less.
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If that is used in his defense, which I expect it will be, I will expect an apology from all 3 of you nudnicks.
"Officer VanDyk...when you first began shooting, and Mr McDonald fell to the ground, why did you continue shooting?"
Now I know how dumb you three are....his entire defense may hinge around the weapon in his hand and you claim it's a dumb statement to make?
"Because he had a knife (or possibly something that can shoot bullets) and I was in fear of my life, so I was aiming at the weapon, and trying to get him to drop it. He was still a threat, while holding the weapon"
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