IS SEALS WITH CLUBS DONKDOWN??? (Update: Micon charged with a felony in Nevada)

[Dan Druff]

So this Full Contact Poker thread is hilarious.

As many of you probably know, my friend Bryan Micon was recently charged by the Nevada Attorney General with "one count of operating an unlicensed interactive gaming system." He could face between 8 and 20 years in jail if convicted.

What I'd like to do is organize a charity poker tournament to help pay for his legal fees. Say, a 20 dollar buy-in with 100 percent of the funds going to his GoFundMe account. The winner would get ... I don't know, a limited edition poker hat signed by someone famous, or something like that, which might become a collectors item some day.

The basic message of the event would be, "online poker is not a crime."
So here is what I'm wondering:

1) Would would it take to get someone like Daniel involved? No doubt we could raise more money if some high profile players got involved. Like, "Hey, come play poker with Daniel Negreanu and raise money for a good cause." People would go for that.

2) We need a venue to host the event, so I'm thinking PokerStars. I fear that SWC is too small a site right now to raise a meaningful amount of money. Any possibility of that?

Daniel, do you forgive Micon for the Choice Center cult accusations? Extra karma points if you do, and I think it would be super classy if you agreed to play in a charity poker tournament for him at this stressful time.

Micon always described himself as the site pro and affiliate manager, so whether he personally operated anything remains unclear. I don't think he had the technical chops for it, so I doubt it.

But legal minutia aside, Micon is a stand up guy. He never hurt anyone. He always paid his debts. He fought collusion and called out cheaters. SWC offered a good service at a fair price and created nothing but value for the poker world.

So that's why I'm organizing the tournament. Poker needs more guys like that.

So I just want to clarify something and give ya'll a quick update. No, I am not Micon nor do I have any affiliation with SWC. I don't even know Micon that well except that we've played a lot of OFC/p and Yahtzee together and I know he's for real.

What makes it personal for me is that he has a family and two year old daughter. I also have a two year old daughter and the thought of a little girl growing up without her father just breaks my heart. We're talking about an alleged crime with no identifiable victim whatsoever. It's like throwing somebody in a cage for 20 years for selling a bag of weed.

So this is my plan. Today I'm going out to buy a whole bunch of poker visors. Those visors will be prizes in the tournament. I'm going to pitch the idea to as many celebrities and quasi-celebrities as I can think of and ask them to sign a visor. If sombody really famous agrees to it, those visors might have real collectors value some day. Plus, how cool would it be to play poker with somebody like Charlie Sheen via webcam? Pretty cool, yes? (I don't know Charlie, I just picked that name as an example).

Also, I'm still looking for a site to host the event. Best case scenario would be to partner with a company like PokerStars to help with promotion and what not. But as the mod said, that's probably a long shot. I think PokerStars is trying to maintain a squeaky-clean image for the regulated market. But who knows. All I can do is ask and see what happens. Other options exist, like maybe a play-money network like Zynga or yahoo games or something like that.

I think it would also be cool to set up webcams and broadcast the event over twitch.tv or something like that. Just throwing ideas out there. That is all.

Hey um.. "Nate" since I have your ear.. do you know what the story of the beef between Karina Jett and You... er.. I mean, Micon is?

So jaded! Someone's always lying in poker, so maybe that's a good instinct. But seriously, I'm not Micon!
Karina Jett, Todd, Zoe, Dustin? No idea who these people are. Are they connected with the Grindabit forumn? Yes, SWC and Grindabit had a falling out some time ago. I don't know exactly what happened, but here's my take on it: Grindabit basically sold out and started promoting a whole bunch of sleazy sites. Micon felt that promoting sites like that gave a bad rap to bitcoin poker in general. So they split. That's my read on it.

What's the coffee situation like for Micon down there? The odd thing about a lot of the best coffee growing regions like certain Latin-American countries and Kenya is that they don't actually drink coffee there, and don't know shit about roasting it. That's why if I were on the lamb, I'd hit Ethiopia. Could you pass that along to Micon?

Maybe that's because Kenyans would rather spend their meager income on real food. Just a guess. I really don't know him that well, but I'll mention it next chance I get.

Answer me this, Micon: rules are rules, who are we without our integrity?

It's like this. Have you ever done something illegal, knowing that it might be illegal, but you did it anyway because the activity was basically harmless?
That's how some guys are. They live according to their own moral compass and sometimes it gets them in hot water. I think Micon has a very good moral compass and that's why I call him my friend. Okay, sometimes he miscalculates. Sometimes he does things that are just plain weird. Things like shooting YouTube videos while lounging around in his bathrobe and hitting a bong. But guys like that are straight shooters. They'll back you up when popular opinion turns against you. It's the guys who always follow the herd that end up stabbing you in the back.

Maybe I'm wrong about Micon. Maybe I'm the sucker at the table. But my intuition says no.

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...ic=147530&st=0

The "David_Sklansky" quoted above is not really him, btw.

Anyway, the bolded parts of mine are above.

Interesting facts about "Nate":

- He has a 2-year-old daughter, just like Micon.

- He knows the intimate details of Micon's role with Seals, the exact charges Micon's facing, and even Micon's feud with some site called grindabit.

- Despite the above, Nate claims to only know Micon from playing OFC and Yahtzee with him online.

- Nate only has 1 post on the bitcointalk forum, and his account there was created at the exact same time as the one he created on FCP last week.

- Despite being a poker dealer, Nate does not know who Karina Jett is.

- Despite being so close with Micon, he knows nothing of the existence of me or Dustin.

- Nate is so sold on this idea about a charity tournament for Micon that he's already going out to buy visors for celebrities to sign. Micon was very obsessed with visors during the time I knew him.

- Nate uses the 1) 2) format to explain things. Micon was well known for doing that on NWP.

It's amazing how similar these two are. No wonder they are such close friends.

[Dan Druff]

he hasnt been posting on REDDIT either.


Not posting is HIGHLY unusual for him. Attorney talked some sense into him.



or, he dead

I know people with whom he's been in contact recently. He's not dead.

He just has been informed to stay off social media.

Good thing that loyal friends like Nate are going to bat for him in the meantime.

[Reno]

Offer to run the tournament on PFA and see what DealerNate has to say about that.

[sonatine]

LEAVE DEALERNATE ALONE... LEAVE HIM ALONE...!

[zealanddonk]

DealerNate:

If it is Micon he's probably working on his obsessive compulsive I cant help myself, I'm slightly insane lets just forget all the bad stuff defense

It could also be a troll, it wouldn't take a huge amount of knowledge to appear convincing, though obviously would need some work to make Druff and others who know him believe.



Surely 2+2 would get suspicious when someone is posting from Antigua?

[DRK Star]

someone can try to meet up with Nate, because you have some poker thing signed by a celebrity that you want to donate. Or offer to ship it to him...get his address.

[4Dragons]

Nothing like the original.

[vegas1369]

Druff, didn't you say a while back you have ways of checking peoples IP's without actually being a mod on the site? Is that skill relevant here?

[vegas1369]

Actually, never mind. Even if it is him I don't think he should be outed.

[sonatine]

Odds of Bryan not being balls deep in Tor nodes = slim. Kinda goes hand in hand with the whole libertarian/bitcoin gladiator schtick.

[Dan Druff]

Odds of Bryan not being balls deep in Tor nodes = slim. Kinda goes hand in hand with the whole libertarian/bitcoin gladiator schtick.

Yup.

Zero chance he posts from Anitgua on FCP and has some mod there immediately out that.

[jacosta24]

just glanced at seals twitter again. totes not micons writing style. obv that freemoney dude updating it, but it has nothing for past 24h.

cant wrap my head round this cuz micon is the spokesmen and freemoney is the tech guy, so if anyone should be too busy for updates it should be freemoney. micon should be in his sweatsedo stroking us on the head & saying everything will be fine.

what we have here is seals goes down, micon disappears, freemomey giving bs maintenance excuses, & them cashing anyone out who wants their btc right now. this says to me its not them stealing, its not a situation they want to admit the truth, & micon cant/wont say anything at the time everyone wants to hear from him.

can u give me micon got busted for $100, alex?

Over/Under this is Todd?

[Dan Druff]

just glanced at seals twitter again. totes not micons writing style. obv that freemoney dude updating it, but it has nothing for past 24h.

cant wrap my head round this cuz micon is the spokesmen and freemoney is the tech guy, so if anyone should be too busy for updates it should be freemoney. micon should be in his sweatsedo stroking us on the head & saying everything will be fine.

what we have here is seals goes down, micon disappears, freemomey giving bs maintenance excuses, & them cashing anyone out who wants their btc right now. this says to me its not them stealing, its not a situation they want to admit the truth, & micon cant/wont say anything at the time everyone wants to hear from him.

can u give me micon got busted for $100, alex?

Over/Under this is Todd?

Scroll back 80 pages and this has already been discussed.

[Sanlmar]

Over/Under this is Todd?

jacosta, Cokehead took this thread away from you on the first page and you are still trying to figure out what happened 4 months later?

Please don't turn this into the kind of nonsense found at 2+2.

[jacosta24]

Lol bashing Micon for supposedly creating dupe accounts when you know damn well you bottom feeding internet trolls up to this site's main computer jockey are doing the same shit.

[sonatine]

Lol bashing Micon for supposedly creating dupe accounts when you know damn well you bottom feeding internet trolls up to this site's main computer jockey are doing the same shit.

Shut up garrett.

[Dan Druff]

Lol bashing Micon for supposedly creating dupe accounts when you know damn well you bottom feeding internet trolls up to this site's main computer jockey are doing the same shit.

I'm not bashing him for creating dupe accounts.

If DealerNate is him, I understand why he's using a fake account, because his lawyers told him to keep off social media.

I think the idea "Nate" is proposing is ridiculous (and LOL at doing it at FCP), but the dupe account itself isn't a big deal.

[Dan Druff]

Also I don't think Nate is coming back to FCP.

The members there basically threw down the gauntlet and told "Nate" to either prove he's a real and separate person, or GTFO.

From Nate's lack of response, I'm guessing he's choosing to GTFO.

[anonamoose]

Well one thing I find interesting about the freemoney theory is that he claims not to know Todd. Freemoney would definitely be familiar with Todd.

[WillieMcFML]

Well one thing I find interesting about the freemoney theory is that he claims not to know Todd. Freemoney would definitely be familiar with Todd.

always thought freemoney might be ytcracker