PROJEKT:SEP **SCAM** (Rolled: A Jasep Saga)

[handicapme]

Zero chance Zod or China will be held liable since they partially owned the company and they shouldn't. Anyone who thinks they will is a retard.

Baron Von Strucker

[handicapme]

I beg to differ here sir. Only 2 people have really said anything along those lines, and honestly fuck'em both. I also replied either on this page or the previous one saying you did nothing wrong, but were in fact scammed yourself. Also, others not saying anything to this and just ignoring it should be a testament to what people actually think of you, I would take it as them saying "ummm this guy needs to just stfu he obviously has no clue what he's talking about." I really hope you don't leave the community, as you have been one of my fav characters on radio. I told you this once before in a PM a long time ago, don't let 1 or 2 fuck heads ruin something you obviously love and people love you doing. Everyone will have haters (I have limitless who I've blocked) don't let them get to you, no fucking point. Do what you want... leave or stay, but I promise you, if you leave you... will be missed.

I said the truth so Brandon posts another poor me post and Im now in the wrong. Remember no matter what we cant say anything about Brandon because he takes his ball and leaves. Well gues what he already did that before all this shit happened. Hes not happy with Druff but there keeping it private. Just because hes great on radio Im not a nut hugger like you. The fact no one spoke up is because everything I said was correct, and the only reason anyone would speak up is because hes good on radio. He fuckin knew that Jasep didnt have the $600 to pay him and he let it roll into a bap that clearly was now underfunded which he admitted to, so dont talk shit about me for calling out what actually happened just because you wanna swing from his nuts.

Just a few questions and statements:

1. How do you know for a fact he's not happy with druff? Has he told you personally, has druff?
2. I'm not hugging his nuts here because he's on radio and I like him. Do you not think he was scammed? Do you not think he was scammed worse than anyone in this thread except for a few (pika comes to mind)?
3. What you said is that people should start looking into him, but why? He hasn't scammed, slow payed OR come to the community looking for money. This was a private matter with someone who he thought was his friend and biz partner. Should pika be questioned for not coming forward sooner? Should steve-o? Tim?
4. go fuck yourself.

[Baron Von Strucker]

He was away on a trip, also as he stated multi times he was not sure as to what was really going on and outing dirty laundry at that time wasn't his place.




I would bet any amount of money that they won't be held liable for anything in this regard. You should be held liable for the abuse you have done to the spell check function. They never had any direct contact with the donations. Jasep committed fraud against 22q and his own company VPR (if it was even a company). If anything I think that Drex and China both have very good grounds to sue Jasep for character deformation, alone with other monetary items they may be able to claim.

Zero chance Zod or China will be held liable since they partially owned the company and they shouldn't. Anyone who thinks they will is a retard.

Are you saying they are not responsible because they are stupid for trusting a convicted Fellon with the company cash box? I don't think that is a good enough reason. There shares combined had controle of this enterprise

I thought you owned a company? This shit is on the first page...... Your the fucking retard!

[Sandwich]

I'll admit that, even though I make it a point to never borrow or loan, I almost bought some shares of the BAP. Purely because I enjoyed his radio show and he seemed down on his luck. It never occurred to me, given his past, that he could be a scammer. Wasn't even on my radar as a possiblilty. I don't blame or think anyone who bought shares is stupid so please don't feel like you are.

This was pretty much my own thinking when I bought two shares of Project:Sep. He made it clear he was down on his luck, I enjoyed listening to the radio shows, the daily video blog eventually turning into a documentary seemed interesting when he first announced it. These, along with the sweat threads, provided every-day contact and accountability. (admittedly, the video blogs that he ended up doing were pretty uninsightful, erratic and poor quality). I liked the "community" aspect of this... the fact that he was taking questions, etc., in the sweat threads.

I always was skeptical about whether or to what extent low limit poker was actually beatable, especially by someone like him. The professed dedication challenge of beating low-to-mid limit games is something I can relate to... I've had some recent successes in similar stakes games myself. Overall it seemed like it would be a fun sweat. He obviously didn't seem like the most responsible of chaps, but I didn't take him to be a scammer. I had done a few paypal transactions with him and he always paid and was responsive to e-mails. Indeed, people here seemed to trust him... and his accountability, reachability, involvement in VPR, FLPR and joint PFA stuff meant that he wouldn't up and disappear. (I was wrong about that, obviously -- looks like he has disappeared after all).

This whole thing sucks obviously. What little faith I had (or wanted to have) in the poker playing community is pretty much gone. The $100 I lost in this (or $92 if you consider the meager "profit" distributions over the past month) is not going to break me. It's more a matter of principle. I'm disgusted.

[Anal_Hershiser]

He fuckin knew that Jasep didnt have the $600 to pay him and he let it roll into a bap that clearly was now underfunded which he admitted to, so dont talk shit about me for calling out what actually happened just because you wanna swing from his nuts.

You keep saying that like it means something. Like it's his obligation to be the forum watchdog. You're the type of person who is handed a form and when he's told to sign it, he simply does so without reading it. Then afterwards, you get pissed off at what you agreed to and blame it on somebody else because they didn't spell it out to you before you signed. All you faggots should have read BEFORE you signed, not blame others afterwards for not holding your hand for you. Pathetic.

[simpdog]

He fuckin knew that Jasep didnt have the $600 to pay him and he let it roll into a bap that clearly was now underfunded which he admitted to, so dont talk shit about me for calling out what actually happened just because you wanna swing from his nuts.

You keep saying that like it means something. Like it's his obligation to be the forum watchdog. You're the type of person who is handed a form and when he's told to sign it, he simply does so without reading it. Then afterwards, you get pissed off at what you agreed to and blame it on somebody else because they didn't spell it out to you before you signed. All you faggots should have read BEFORE you signed, not blame others afterwards for not holding your hand for you. Pathetic.

Will you ever realize that you had nothing to do with the BAP, and noone gives a shit about your useless opinions/trolling posts?

[Anal_Hershiser]

You keep saying that like it means something. Like it's his obligation to be the forum watchdog. You're the type of person who is handed a form and when he's told to sign it, he simply does so without reading it. Then afterwards, you get pissed off at what you agreed to and blame it on somebody else because they didn't spell it out to you before you signed. All you faggots should have read BEFORE you signed, not blame others afterwards for not holding your hand for you. Pathetic.

Will you ever realize that you had nothing to do with the BAP, and noone gives a shit about your useless opinions/trolling posts?

ROFL. Tough shit faggot. Get over it.

[handicapme]

You keep saying that like it means something. Like it's his obligation to be the forum watchdog. You're the type of person who is handed a form and when he's told to sign it, he simply does so without reading it. Then afterwards, you get pissed off at what you agreed to and blame it on somebody else because they didn't spell it out to you before you signed. All you faggots should have read BEFORE you signed, not blame others afterwards for not holding your hand for you. Pathetic.

Will you ever realize that you had nothing to do with the BAP, and noone gives a shit about your useless opinions/trolling posts?

Hey Simp, you know i'm a fan of you and all... but I gotta disagree with this. If it wasn't for azz over here we may not even know we were scammed yet. He brought it to light with him constant harassment, not my cup of tea, but it was effective.

[Baron Von Strucker]

You should be held liable for the abuse you have done to the spell check function.

Looks good on my end..... You should have your computer checked, then stuff it up your ass.

[Pooh]

Zero chance Zod or China will be held liable since they partially owned the company and they shouldn't. Anyone who thinks they will is a retard.

Are you saying they are not responsible because they are stupid for trusting a convicted Fellon with the company cash box? I don't think that is a good enough reason. There shares combined had controle of this enterprise

I thought you owned a company? This shit is on the first page...... Your the fucking retard!

I meant legally liable. Also, I have another rule that I live by. Never go into business with anyone else. Period. That business was destined to fail from the get go and I was one who called them out on it.

[simpdog]

Will you ever realize that you had nothing to do with the BAP, and noone gives a shit about your useless opinions/trolling posts?

Hey Simp, you know i'm a fan of you and all... but I gotta disagree with this. If it wasn't for azz over here we may not even know we were scammed yet. He brought it to light with him constant harassment, not my cup of tea, but it was effective.

But what is his purpose in posting his constant "hey faggot get over it" or "it's your own fault idiot" posts at this point in time.

I give him some props for harassing this thing in the earliest stages, but at the same time that time has come and gone. No reason to continue at this point.

[Sandwich]

Per Jasep, and this was his word without me ever seeing proof, the only person that cashed out of the poker room was Beebs.

This is not accurate. After the ironman podcast and some correspondence with Jasep where I told him I would prefer to donate directly (and get the appropriate tax receipts), I cashed out $139 from the room and Jasep sent it to me via paypal.

That doesn't explain the other missing thousands, but for the sake of trying to help identify the correct amount of missing money I figured I'd disclose that.

[pikachar]

Pika,

Get LLPR on ITunes dude. I'm having a hard time getting the last episode on my Iphone.

Gawd RSS is fucked, next weekend we got an Ace in the hole to fix everything

[Anal_Hershiser]

But what is his purpose in posting his constant "hey faggot get over it" or "it's your own fault idiot" posts at this point in time.

Because you downs babies keep on trying to blame everyone but yourselves. You made your bed, now lay in it. Don't like it? I really don't give a fuck.

[Baron Von Strucker]

Anal were you tipped off or did you figure this out with out help from the "inside" before you blew this thred up?

[pikachar]

I'll admit that, even though I make it a point to never borrow or loan, I almost bought some shares of the BAP. Purely because I enjoyed his radio show and he seemed down on his luck. It never occurred to me, given his past, that he could be a scammer. Wasn't even on my radar as a possiblilty. I don't blame or think anyone who bought shares is stupid so please don't feel like you are.

This was pretty much my own thinking when I bought two shares of Project:Sep. He made it clear he was down on his luck, I enjoyed listening to the radio shows, the daily video blog eventually turning into a documentary seemed interesting when he first announced it. These, along with the sweat threads, provided every-day contact and accountability. (admittedly, the video blogs that he ended up doing were pretty uninsightful, erratic and poor quality). I liked the "community" aspect of this... the fact that he was taking questions, etc., in the sweat threads.

I always was skeptical about whether or to what extent low limit poker was actually beatable, especially by someone like him. The professed dedication challenge of beating low-to-mid limit games is something I can relate to... I've had some recent successes in similar stakes games myself. Overall it seemed like it would be a fun sweat. He obviously didn't seem like the most responsible of chaps, but I didn't take him to be a scammer. I had done a few paypal transactions with him and he always paid and was responsive to e-mails. Indeed, people here seemed to trust him... and his accountability, reachability, involvement in VPR, FLPR and joint PFA stuff meant that he wouldn't up and disappear. (I was wrong about that, obviously -- looks like he has disappeared after all).

This whole thing sucks obviously. What little faith I had (or wanted to have) in the poker playing community is pretty much gone. The $100 I lost in this (or $92 if you consider the meager "profit" distributions over the past month) is not going to break me. It's more a matter of principle. I'm disgusted.

I free rolled 7 shares (from previous bap's/debts), only bought 3

[Pooh]

Pika,

Get LLPR on ITunes dude. I'm having a hard time getting the last episode on my Iphone.

Gawd RSS is fucked, next weekend we got an Ace in the hole to fix everything

Is it a one shot deal with a guy also working on Comedy Central's site? If so I'll ship the $250.

[simpdog]

But what is his purpose in posting his constant "hey faggot get over it" or "it's your own fault idiot" posts at this point in time.

Because you downs babies keep on trying to blame everyone but yourselves. You made your bed, now lay in it. Don't like it? I really don't give a fuck.

The constant insults really degrade the value of your posts. Plus some reading comprehension skills would help you in your replies.

I'm not part of any group blaming anyone else. Most of the questioning has been trying to figure out when things happened not who to blame.

Have a good night. Log off and go watch UFC, NHL, NBA, tv, or go find a girl/guy to hang with.

[handicapme]

But what is his purpose in posting his constant "hey faggot get over it" or "it's your own fault idiot" posts at this point in time.

Because you downs babies keep on trying to blame everyone but yourselves. You made your bed, now lay in it. Don't like it? I really don't give a fuck.

Yea Simp, I hear you buddy... he doesn't make it easy. I dunno man, I've just learn to love his hate I guess? The two of you can carry on.

[Anal_Hershiser]

Anal were you tipped off or did you figure this out with out help from the "inside" before you blew this thred up?

The "inside" info that was given to me has not yet been revealed. As a matter of fact, those guys have yet to post itt. I think now that everyone already sees that Jasep is a thief, they don't seem to feel it necessary to speak up. It was something of a similar nature to the BAP scam. The only thing that that info told me was that Jasep was a guy who was willing to steal. If you add that to his original shady BAP rules, I thought it far more likely than not that he was scamming, and he was.