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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
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    I lol @ your lol. Yes I read the thread which is why I know that you and Drexel knew alot more then everyone else when the BAP was started. You didnt have your name on it as to have really purchased shares like Drexel did. I dont see any wrong doing on your part, but I do on Drexels.
    How did Drexel do anything wrong besides let a friend slide on a $600 debt and give him $400 towards his last ditch effort? He was being scammed, along with china and the rest of us. Drex and China were actually being scammed by him long before any of this, or have you forgot they were making payments towards a $160 server which cost $5...

    Listen I'm not saying they shouldn't have came out earlier, but they're a victim here just like everyone else IF not worse off since they were being taken advantage of for prob a year or so.

    We all fucked up... we shouldn't blame other people for this shit. It's our own fault, and Jasep's.
    I think what some may feel drexel did wrong was not say anything about juan not being able to pay him $600 he owed him and rolling it into the septic tank BAP instead. If "investors" knew that juan didn't have the $ to pay a $600 debt then he has no business running a BAP. Specificly, a BAP where he plays live poker and the win/loss is based on his word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    to have numerous posters (and not trolls) have the audacity to say "maybe we should look at drexel" and then I read 5 pages further and no one responds or felt the need to respond. Cmon.
    As someone who was once a Brandon skeptic, having called him "shady", among other things. I have recently changed my mind. Not because of anything he has said to me, as I have only briefly conversed with him, but things that others have said about him. If people that I know and trust, know and trust him, that says a lot to me. I'm not even trying to change anybody's mind, but as someone who has openly been critical of him, I feel the need to share the opposite end of it now. I'm not saying I want the guy to babysit my kids, but I think he is solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser View Post
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    to have numerous posters (and not trolls) have the audacity to say "maybe we should look at drexel" and then I read 5 pages further and no one responds or felt the need to respond. Cmon.
    As someone who was once a Brandon skeptic, having called him "shady", among other things. I have recently changed my mind. Not because of anything he has said to me, as I have only briefly conversed with him, but things that others have said about him. If people that I know and trust, know and trust him, that says a lot to me. I'm not even trying to change anybody's mind, but as someone who has openly been critical of him, I feel the need to share the opposite end of it now. I'm not saying I want the guy to babysit my kids, but I think he is solid.

    It shouldn't even have to be responded to. Everybody loves Drex and we don't care for scammers around these parts very much. Too bad the guy doesn't post more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
    to have numerous posters (and not trolls) have the audacity to say "maybe we should look at drexel" and then I read 5 pages further and no one responds or felt the need to respond. Cmon.
    5 pages happen in this thread in the blink of an eye Drex, I wouldn't look too much into it.

    I've always liked Zod and nothing here has changed my opinion. I disagree with anyone suggesting that Brandon, China, Druff, or anyone else is in any way responsible for any of this. This is on jasep and all of us individually who lost, end of story.

    We are all adults here with our own reasons for participating and we are responsible, no one else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post
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    How many things have to go down involving Drexel before we start looking at him?

    This thread has become to huge and diluted for me to copy and paste every question and now attack thrown my way. I'm going try to state everything I wish to in this one post on a variety of subjects.

    22q- To clear it up for everyone, it was Jasep's idea and solely his to have the 22q charity podcast. He approached JoeU with the idea. Joeu TOLD me on the phone that he asked Jasep why he wanted to put in so much work for a charity he just heard about and Jasep responded that "he hoped if he ever needed help (context was in reference to a disease) others would do something like this for him. Jasep then approached Kevin and I and start is how the process started.

    Per Jasep, and this was his word without me ever seeing proof, the only person that cashed out of the poker room was Beebs. I dont remember the exact amount but it was less than $25. She can of course fill in the correct numbers.

    I had a balance in the poker room of over $400. I staked a ton of people in the main event tournament and the balance was removed by Jasep after 22q.

    I admit I never followed up on the monies he was suppose to send or ask him for any proof. He told me he was taking care of it. I assumed months ago everything had been handled correctly. It was only within the past week and change that thought first crossed my mind that there was a possibility monies might not have been paid. It was also brought to my attention that he had stated publically after 22q he was going to borgota to play for about 7-10 days.

    When we all settled up our prop bets (Kevin, myself and Jasep) I sent Kevin the 1k I owed him, I offered to put the $600 Jasep owed me in his bap, again he stated to both Kevin and I that he was putting thee $600 in himself. I again fully agree I should have posted or had him post that he was putting in the $600 due to monies owed me. There were other prior investors as well (I didnt know this at the time) who rolled over monies he had owed them from previous baps as well. He may very well had only received 3500-4k in cash from new investors. A new thread can determine this.

    I had expressed my displeasure of working with Johnny to Mark on the phone almost daily months before this BAP started. I also had told him back in December I planned on resigning. He asked me to hold off and see if things improved. I did this out of respect to Mark.

    The issues for wanting to resign were for a number of reasons. There was an email that Mark sent out to him speaking on my behalf as well that addressed these concerns. We wanted to know once and for all the blind squirrel figures. We wanted Mark to handle the finance (this had been agreed since before we opened shop) and we asked him about the pikachar involvement in the site. My main issue was he had made a number of significant decisions we had found out either by seeing them or from behind the scenes without consulting us. This severely violated our original agreement in which we all pledged to communicate and make consensus decisions.I also was angry because we had a skype meeting in Novmeber in which Johnny basicallyy admonished Mark and I for not selling ads or doing enough to make income for the site. He also stated he had stopped playing poker for months to dedicate himself to the website and insinuated that WE were the cause of lost income he would have had if he wasn't working 10-12 hours a day on VPR. Mark and I laughed privately about this.

    These were the reasons I quit VPR. The only shady monetary thing involved Mark sending him $250 at the spur of the moment one day when asked so that a guy who does web work for comedy central could work on our site. He indicated the work could only be done that day. he needed the money that day or we would have had to wait over 3 months for his services again. Mark sent him the money. He gave excuses weeks later as to what had been done. He claimed to Mark the work had been done, but certain things had to still be installed, so on and so forth. Mark can elaborate but suffice to say neither one of us had the technical aptitude to verify what if any work was done.

    I had already planned to quit VPR in December. I had already resigned before he began his BAP. There was nothing I knew that I could have reported that would have affected this. Honestly I had suspcions. But so did others. I had zero concrete proof he was or wasn't playing.

    I wasn't going to post the behind the scenes VPR conversations and issues as that was irrelevant to everything. It served no purpose nor was anyones business but Mark, Jaseps and mind. And think back, if I resigned publically, blasted another former business partner/friend how would i come across after last years events? As ShadyJ said "drexel is always involved when there is drama" I didnt want this again. I knew me writing that first post would cause this but after realizing by him not paying me and continually buying time, I had to report my dealings with him. At that point I knew he didnt have the 5k roll he claimed to have.

    My character. I have been on the forums since 2007. It's funny how events from 6 years ago are still used to question my character and yes I am referring to Julia. I exhibited bad taste and acted awful back in 2008 when i didn't pick her up from the airport and spoke of it. This should be afterthought now. I apologized years ago. She forgave me. We have been close friends since. She was a neighbor of mind for quite some time and ironically enough she is in town for the Superbowl and a group of us are having dinner tonight. I really don't think anything I have done in the past should be used to attack my character now or as shadyj said " maybe we should start looking at drexel"

    I'm going to keep my word. I will work with JoeU. I will contact the authorities and fly to RI if necessary. I will keep everyone that has been working on this and communicating with me updated offline. I will do all I can to help restitution be made. But besides that I'm done. I've donated enough time over the years trying to entertain and make people laugh to have numerous posters (and not trolls) have the audacity to say "maybe we should look at drexel" and then I read 5 pages further and no one responds or felt the need to respond. Cmon.


    edit: Mark plz feel free to add/correct anything in regards to the VPR issues since you were involved with all of this with me
    No one is accusing you of being involved. I just think you should have let Druff know when the bap started that you had your suspicions. I cant argue with the fact that you put in alot of time with nothing in return and your great on radio, but it just seems everytime anything goes down your somehow involved no matter how little or big it is. I dont know you but from what I know your overall a good dude, but you have another side that likes to get into shit. Everything I wrote is just my opinion on everything it doesnt mean its right or wrong.

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    Drex, has done nothing but give give give to this community. The few no lifes that like to dredge up some past youthful comedic stupidity and try and pass it off as a current character flaw should just be banned. They add nothing to the forum and they should go back and live under the bridge where they were born.

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    Pika,

    Get LLPR on ITunes dude. I'm having a hard time getting the last episode on my Iphone.

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    Sory Brandon but am I correct to read that one month before this disaster happend and when the bap apperd on the front page you waited un till when to inform druff or your beloved community?? That you are done with AGAIN. A call to your buddy druff would have been a good idea maby?

    I believe you had no part in this scam but may have early knowledge of a problem that may have prevented this particular scam, you waited til more than 20 pages to post concerns about sep, and you were but hurt that no won had your back after 5 lol

    also you being a large percent owner of VPR you can't just throw your shares in the air and say your done, you are still in part in responsable the 22q scam for not doing YOUR dudilagence with the accounting aspect to avoide said scam. Owning a company comes with great responsibility and can be held partially responsible for this debacle if legal action is proceeded with by the charity. You will likly not be held harmless for your no patipating in the 22q scam sory china and mark you to very sad you dident do your dudilagence befor you became busness partners with the guy.
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    Originally Posted by DanDruff:Since I'm a 6'2" Republican with an average-sized nose and a last name which doesn't end with "stein", "man", or "berg", I can hide among the goyim and remain undetected unless I open my mouth about money matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    Drex, has done nothing but give give give to this community. The few no lifes that like to dredge up some past youthful comedic stupidity and try and pass it off as a current character flaw should just be banned. They add nothing to the forum and they should go back and live under the bridge where they were born.

    Im sorry I just find it hard to believe that the guy cares about everyone as much as he says in his posts when Ive listened to his show. I didnt say hes a bad person but cmon save me the tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LLL View Post
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    Yeah, I think you mentioned that a few dozen times.
    What vanity plate can he get to remind people?


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    Just the first part was meant for you my bad. Im just saying if you post that if Jasep pays everyone back and paid the charity hes still a scammer just gives him more reason to not pay anyone back. You hope hes thinks exactly what you said until you get your money back. If he sees that paying everyone back wont help his rep that gives him more reason to not pay anyone back. The second part I should have put in a different post I dont think you were talking to down to investors but a bunch of people on here are, and I guess that makes them feel better about themselves.
    But you realize that him "paying people back" very likely means scamming someone else to get it done, right?

    I don't see that as a net gain.

    It's actually a net loss because:

    1) Someone else is getting ripped off

    2) This will legitimize Jasep in some people's eyes, and perhaps set them up to get scammed again in the future

    I believe if he had the $5k, he would have agreed to plop it in my bank account today and there would have been a lot more doubt cast upon the allegations against him.
    sick brag Druff has bank accounts in every major bank

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    Druff and others seem to be pretty spot on in their analysis. Jasep's story is far too common.

    I think we all forget sometimes that grinding cash to pay bills is not a normal or healthy way to make money. Of course there are exceptions but for every winning player there are many, many more losing ones, trapped in a nasty cycle of gambler's fallacy and self-delusion. I bet Projekt:Sep was built with every intention of being legitimate but was always doomed for failure.

    The Darwinistic aspect of poker has always appealed to me but it leaves a lot of blood. In a way I empathize with Jasep. I remember when I last went broke and FTP and realized that the gig was up, it sucked. I wasn't mired in debt but really knowing that the dream was over and real things had to now happen was a shot in the nuts.

    I encourage Jasep to do the right thing and fix this if at all possible. Coming clean will be a relief and even initiating a plan to set things right is a step in the right direction.

    The poker dream is over for him. Step up, be a man and get a job. Continuing to run and scam will only make things worse.
    It was built to roll over money he already owed people. If he had that money he wouldnt have needed a stake. Every investor that invested on owed money owed it to the community to tell them, but they actually liked the idea because they went from not getting paid to possibly getting paid by him rolling other people hoping for that 1 big day or week.
    so the current group he owes should take it in the ass so there wont be a next victim

    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    Question for the people who were "tight" with him.

    Have you ever hung out and partied with him? Does he drink? Ever seen any drug use? Anything?

    No idea if any of that was involved but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
    there must have been some red flags

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    This should be the "OFFICIAL" 4 Bet was right.

    Now, the owner of this site acknowledged you were right. So you really don't have to keep posting on how right you were. We get it, you reminded us 240 hours straight. You were right.

    Now go back to polishing your Vanity license plate.
    FYP

    I really didn't mean for my post to come off as "I TOLD YOU SO" And if you have noticed i never once in this thread jumped on a investor for trusting that crook(others have), I know things are bad enough for the investor's i am not trying to rub it in , I was mostly pointing out the lies Sep told a year ago, So lets move on it really doesn't matter who called him out first



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    I have removed Jasep's access to edit and delete posts, so he can't try to hide things he's written in the past here.
    Tough but fair.


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    You said he was considering breaking up with his current GF before the project started, other than his daughter and his friend Kevin? he has nothing left to stick around for.

    I doubt he's going to noose himself over this, so he'll just go to North Dakota, get a job there and lay low for awhile.
    He is living with his Gf now. He told me early Dec, he moved out of his place to "live with her to save money"I believe there was never any intent for him to leave his gf to begin with. She has an income, a home, a car (which he doen't have) and is in all likelihood supporting him.

    His brother, mother, father, all live in the same city (or relatively close). He has (and if this is inappropriate to post, then delete) a daughter that he has partial custody of which I do believe he loves and cares for very much.

    Fleeing is not a option I find likely.
    not owning a car is a huge red flag, how is he supposed to get to a Casino to play
    besides every ghetto punk owns a $200 car and Jasep cant afford $200 for cheap transportation wow

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    i thought $50s were supposed to be bad luck?
    yep stick with the Benjamin's itt

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    According to the charts & followups posted in this thread (shares owned):

    Hockeyguy --4
    Bellybuster --2
    Drexel --21 (? 12 were rollover for 600 gambling debt owed?)
    Handicapme --6 (? question about unpaid shares?)
    Hotshott74 --1
    Realchaser74 --1 (? rollover from previous BAP?)
    pikachar --5
    MadDad --10
    Xopods --2
    Sandwich --2
    Fergie72 --4
    EdwardTeach --2
    Steve-O --2 (? rollover from debt owed?)
    Offthetop --5
    Simpdog --20
    GambleBotsChafedPenis --1 (?paid?)
    Kuntmissioner --2 (?paid?)
    tony bagadonuts --5
    JoeU --1
    Vegas1369 --2
    JimmyG_415 --2 (? rolled over from previous BAP?)

    At this point Jasep announced the stake was sold out. 100 shares @$50/share sold.

    Then, a few days ago, when all hell is breaking loose, Jasep offers his investors a full refund with profits, for those who want out.

    According to the 'thank you' list on the last video Jasep posted, he omitted the names BellyBuster, Drexel, Pikachar and tony bagadonuts from the list of investors.

    (Did all of these people exercise their option for a refund? Drexel? Did Jasep pay these people back?)

    There are also other stories about additional shares being sold. Pikachar's post above regarding the $150 for 3 additional shares in mid January is one example. I believe MadDad bought additional shares recently as well.
    From another site... http://www.pokerforums.org/staking-t...tml#post302256
    Xopods +5 (7)
    Mad Dad +5 (15)
    Rollo Tomasi + 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post

    But besides that I'm done. I've donated enough time over the years trying to entertain and make people laugh to have numerous posters (and not trolls) have the audacity to say "maybe we should look at drexel" and then I read 5 pages further and no one responds or felt the need to respond. Cmon.
    I beg to differ here sir. Only 2 people have really said anything along those lines, and honestly fuck'em both. I also replied either on this page or the previous one saying you did nothing wrong, but were in fact scammed yourself. Also, others not saying anything to this and just ignoring it should be a testament to what people actually think of you, I would take it as them saying "ummm this guy needs to just stfu he obviously has no clue what he's talking about." I really hope you don't leave the community, as you have been one of my fav characters on radio. I told you this once before in a PM a long time ago, don't let 1 or 2 fuck heads ruin something you obviously love and people love you doing. Everyone will have haters (I have limitless who I've blocked) don't let them get to you, no fucking point. Do what you want... leave or stay, but I promise you, if you leave you... will be missed.
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    I have questioned Druff, China and Drexel for not coming out with info a bit earlier.

    HOWEVER after reading this thread and responses, I do agree they are not at fault for us getting rolled.

    The only people they would be at fault would be when Jasep was re-selling Drexel's shares since he was bowing out and if anyone bought the extra shares (believe me I was really close to buying them up).


    The best idea going forward would be to pursue all remedies as a united front. Being pissed at anyone except jasep will not help end this matter, and always remember hindsight is 20/20.

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    Drexel - Please don't leave this site or community just stay clear of business ventures with randoms on the internet you never have met or someone else you feel could be shiesty in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker View Post
    I believe you had no part in this scam but may have early knowledge of a problem that may have prevented this particular scam, you waited til more than 20 pages to post concerns about sep, and you were but hurt that no won had your back after 5 lol
    Why is it his responsibility to babysit other members? He had a hunch. Nothing concrete. Nothing he did stopped any other investor from asking simple questions that could have prevented their loss. You make it seem like he knew this was gonna happen. FFS, stop trying to pass the blame to him or Druff for other people's lack of research into this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO SENT JASEP MONEY COULD HAVE ASKED HIM ANYTHING THEY WANTED. WHAT PART OF THAT CAN'T YOU SHITSTAINS UNDERSTAND? Stop blaming others for the investors sheer stupidity in not questioning why a supposed poker player of 10+ years has almost ZERO stats. You seem to actually be getting stupider, if that is even possible.
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    Vegas is there any chance I can buy you some steaks and mail them to you or something?
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    Why the fuck is the world (cough US) allowing these backward fuckers have nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker View Post
    Sory Brandon but am I correct to read that one month before this disaster happend and when the bap apperd on the front page you waited un till when to inform druff or your beloved community?? That you are done with AGAIN. A call to your buddy druff would have been a good idea maby?

    I believe you had no part in this scam but may have early knowledge of a problem that may have prevented this particular scam, you waited til more than 20 pages to post concerns about sep, and you were but hurt that no won had your back after 5 lol

    also you being a large percent owner of VPR you can't just throw your shares in the air and say your done, you are still in part in responsable the 22q scam for not doing YOUR dudilagence with the accounting aspect to avoide said scam. Owning a company comes with great responsibility and can be held partially responsible for this debacle if legal action is proceeded with by the charity. You will likly not be held harmless for your no patipating in the 22q scam sory china and mark you to very sad you dident do your dudilagence befor you became busness partners with the guy.
    Brandons butthurt about something again shocker.

    For the record Im always on Brandons side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post

    I beg to differ here sir. Only 2 people have really said anything along those lines, and honestly fuck'em both. I also replied either on this page or the previous one saying you did nothing wrong, but were in fact scammed yourself. Also, others not saying anything to this and just ignoring it should be a testament to what people actually think of you, I would take it as them saying "ummm this guy needs to just stfu he obviously has no clue what he's talking about." I really hope you don't leave the community, as you have been one of my fav characters on radio. I told you this once before in a PM a long time ago, don't let 1 or 2 fuck heads ruin something you obviously love and people love you doing. Everyone will have haters (I have limitless who I've blocked) don't let them get to you, no fucking point. Do what you want... leave or stay, but I promise you, if you leave you... will be missed.

    Very touching. I came.

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    Sory Brandon but am I correct to read that one month before this disaster happend and when the bap apperd on the front page you waited un till when to inform druff or your beloved community?? That you are done with AGAIN. A call to your buddy druff would have been a good idea maby?
    He was away on a trip, also as he stated multi times he was not sure as to what was really going on and outing dirty laundry at that time wasn't his place.


    also you being a large percent owner of VPR you can't just throw your shares in the air and say your done, you are still in part in responsable the 22q scam for not doing YOUR dudilagence with the accounting aspect to avoide said scam. Owning a company comes with great responsibility and can be held partially responsible for this debacle if legal action is proceeded with by the charity. You will likly not be held harmless for your no patipating in the 22q scam sory china and mark you to very sad you dident do your dudilagence befor you became busness partners with the guy.
    I would bet any amount of money that they won't be held liable for anything in this regard. You should be held liable for the abuse you have done to the spell check function. They never had any direct contact with the donations. Jasep committed fraud against 22q and his own company VPR (if it was even a company). If anything I think that Drex and China both have very good grounds to sue Jasep for character deformation, alone with other monetary items they may be able to claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    I have questioned Druff, China and Drexel for not coming out with info a bit earlier.

    HOWEVER after reading this thread and responses, I do agree they are not at fault for us getting rolled.

    The only people they would be at fault would be when Jasep was re-selling Drexel's shares since he was bowing out and if anyone bought the extra shares (believe me I was really close to buying them up).


    The best idea going forward would be to pursue all remedies as a united front. Being pissed at anyone except jasep will not help end this matter, and always remember hindsight is 20/20.
    I sadly was one of those dumb fucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
    He was away on a trip, also as he stated multi times he was not sure as to what was really going on and outing dirty laundry at that time wasn't his place.


    also you being a large percent owner of VPR you can't just throw your shares in the air and say your done, you are still in part in responsable the 22q scam for not doing YOUR dudilagence with the accounting aspect to avoide said scam. Owning a company comes with great responsibility and can be held partially responsible for this debacle if legal action is proceeded with by the charity. You will likly not be held harmless for your no patipating in the 22q scam sory china and mark you to very sad you dident do your dudilagence befor you became busness partners with the guy.
    I would bet any amount of money that they won't be held liable for anything in this regard. You should be held liable for the abuse you have done to the spell check function. They never had any direct contact with the donations. Jasep committed fraud against 22q and his own company VPR (if it was even a company). If anything I think that Drex and China both have very good grounds to sue Jasep for character deformation, alone with other monetary items they may be able to claim.

    Zero chance Zod or China will be held liable since they partially owned the company and they shouldn't. Anyone who thinks they will is a retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handicapme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel View Post

    But besides that I'm done. I've donated enough time over the years trying to entertain and make people laugh to have numerous posters (and not trolls) have the audacity to say "maybe we should look at drexel" and then I read 5 pages further and no one responds or felt the need to respond. Cmon.
    I beg to differ here sir. Only 2 people have really said anything along those lines, and honestly fuck'em both. I also replied either on this page or the previous one saying you did nothing wrong, but were in fact scammed yourself. Also, others not saying anything to this and just ignoring it should be a testament to what people actually think of you, I would take it as them saying "ummm this guy needs to just stfu he obviously has no clue what he's talking about." I really hope you don't leave the community, as you have been one of my fav characters on radio. I told you this once before in a PM a long time ago, don't let 1 or 2 fuck heads ruin something you obviously love and people love you doing. Everyone will have haters (I have limitless who I've blocked) don't let them get to you, no fucking point. Do what you want... leave or stay, but I promise you, if you leave you... will be missed.
    I said the truth so Brandon posts another poor me post and Im now in the wrong. Remember no matter what we cant say anything about Brandon because he takes his ball and leaves. Well gues what he already did that before all this shit happened. Hes not happy with Druff but there keeping it private. Just because hes great on radio Im not a nut hugger like you. The fact no one spoke up is because everything I said was correct, and the only reason anyone would speak up is because hes good on radio. He fuckin knew that Jasep didnt have the $600 to pay him and he let it roll into a bap that clearly was now underfunded which he admitted to, so dont talk shit about me for calling out what actually happened just because you wanna swing from his nuts.

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