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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
    Looking forward to reading DesertRunner’s post about why Druff is wrong.
    Looking forward to tine’s post using the word pedo.
    NEWSWEEK, A LEFT WING PUBLICATION, SAYS TRUMP IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT AFTER SIX MONTHS SINCE FDR .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
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    Looking forward to reading DesertRunner’s post about why Druff is wrong.
    Looking forward to tine’s post using the word pedo.


    who are you trying to lie to? you are the 2nd most prolific user of it and its not close.


    now get back to your penny slot, cripple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Looking forward to tine’s post using the word pedo.


    who are you trying to lie to? you are the 2nd most prolific user of it and its not close.


    now get back to your penny slot, cripple.
    I learned it from sonatine.

    The dessertrunner problem is easily solvable. Quit gangtrolling him.

     
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    hey with those slutty little outfits he wears he's really asking for it

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    Can't wait for desertmuhammad's quran-length TAKEDOWN of his respected friend.

    FREE SNOWTRACKS

     
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    desertrunner has been extremely respectful to and unselfish with me during our friendship. In fact, he's only here because of his respect for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
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    oh yeah not racist at all
    Its not racist, its a national term commonly used-

    you dumb motherfucker I love how you spell fatigue wrong in the search and then a bunch of your inbred stormcunters also spelled it wrong but you're still able to find each other in spite of the misspellings. amazing, it's like a beacon for uneducated dumbfucks

    also any time a tweet starts with "as a black man" I can damn near guarantee you that they ain't a black man

     
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    Apparently some people aren't understanding this, so I'm going to say it again.

    I do not want this forum to be the desertrunner show.

    This includes two things:

    1) I don't want desertrunner dominating to forum, or constantly doing the same things over and over which annoy people

    2) I don't want the haters of desertrunner to turn every thread in which he appears into a bash desertrunner fest


    Otherwise this forum is going to be complete shit and unreadable.

    For example, in the Rob Reiner thread (which is an interesting and current topic), desertrunner made a statement he thought was true (that Reiner had stated he was happy Trump was shot), and upon being called out on it, desertrunner changed it to stating that he THOUGHT Rob Reiner was probably happy Trump got shot, which of course is a very different thing.

    I don't mind people calling out desertrunner for this, and bashing him for it, because indeed he should have just said "Oops my mistake, I guess Reiner never said that", and move on. I have made similar mistakes in the past, where I believe I saw something online, but in fact I either misread it or simply read ABOUT it without ever verifying it was true. That can happen. The difference is that I'll admit it when shown evidence that I was incorrect, whereas desertrunner seems to be allergic to doing so.

    If you want to give him a hard time for that, go right ahead. If you want to make nasty remarks to him for having done this, go right ahead.

    However, once the thread degenerates into just unrelated trolling of him, then it becomes shit because that takes away the entire focus of what was being discussed. And that's what I don't want.

    If I do delete your post as part of such trolling, don't make another post in the thread complaining about it. Either accept it, or start a different thread to bring up your issue with why you feel I was too heavy handed.

    I'm not doing this to protect desertrunner, by the way. If he posts stupid shit, by all means he should take his lumps for it, as should anyone here when they post dumb things, including me. Just don't fuck up good threads because you want to troll him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    For example, in the Rob Reiner thread (which is an interesting and current topic), desertrunner made a statement he thought was true (that Reiner had stated he was happy Trump was shot), and upon being called out on it, desertrunner changed it to stating that he THOUGHT Rob Reiner was probably happy Trump got shot, which of course is a very different thing.
    I actually said neither of these things and sometimes Druff does get the story specifics wrong, I noticed that lately. I said specifically- "Reiner cheered on" in referance to Trump being shot. I came back and clarified that I did NOT say cheered "physically" or "posted online", I said it in general speak based on past online observations. And mainly because I really dont care enough about this story to really to get into it or debate it, I just dont care enough. The resident liberal thought this was a "catch a moment" and it really wasnt, really because I dont care enough about the topic. I gave my opinion based on past observations and if that's not good enough, then I will play the standard PFA card of- "because I say so" and that's good enough to stand on.

    I don't mind people calling out desertrunner for this, and bashing him for it, because indeed he should have just said "Oops my mistake, I guess Reiner never said that", and move on. I have made similar mistakes in the past, where I believe I saw something online, but in fact I either misread it or simply read ABOUT it without ever verifying it was true. That can happen. The difference is that I'll admit it when shown evidence that I was incorrect, whereas desertrunner seems to be allergic to doing so.
    Not at all, I did NOT make a mistake. I vagly remember the RR comments about Trump over time and commented on it as I remembered it. But again, the resident liberals thought this was a gotcha because I didnt post the exact evidence and I dont have to "because I say so" is good enough here. Druff got this one wrong and I have never seen Druff correct himself here and admit to making a mistake. Druff is still one of my best friends, but I call it like I see it, non-emotional.

    If you want to give him a hard time for that, go right ahead. If you want to make nasty remarks to him for having done this, go right ahead.
    Go right ahead, I really dont care enough about the topic to argue it.

    However, once the thread degenerates into just unrelated trolling of him, then it becomes shit because that takes away the entire focus of what was being discussed. And that's what I don't want.
    This is weekly on every topic and nothing gets done about it. This was what The Boz was trying to show us.

    I'm not doing this to protect desertrunner, by the way. If he posts stupid shit, by all means he should take his lumps for it, as should anyone here when they post dumb things, including me. Just don't fuck up good threads because you want to troll him.
    Nothing will change and things will stay the same.

     
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    Let's say a liberal here accused me of cheering on the January 6 riots.

    I would respond, "I never did such a thing. I was against the January 6 riots. You won't find a single post I made anywhere which was cheering them on."

    If the person said back, "Well maybe not, but I can tell by all of your defenses of Trump, you must have been cheering on the January 6 riots, so my point stands", I would think this person is a liar who doesn't operate in good faith.

    Same thing here.

    We don't know how Reiner felt about the attempt to kill Trump. Could I believe he was happy about it? Yes. Could I believe he didn't like it, despite his own vocal opposition to Trump? Again, yes.

    The only people who know the answer would be those Reiner told personally. But that encompasses nobody on this forum.

    You have zero evidence that Reiner cheered on the assassination attempt. Absolutely zero. You stated it as if it were fact. When challenged, you could not provide anything, and changed the story to how you were assuming this was true. (It's one thing or the other -- either you have evidence he did, or you're assuming he did!)

    Now, again, there's nothing wrong with misremembering, or accidentally internalizing something you read as fact. As I said, I've accidentally done it myself at times, and I feel foolish when people point out the truth to me. But I won't double down at that point. I'll say, "Whoops, I guess I remembered wrong", and move on.

    For whatever reason, when this happens to you here, you will never admit you were wrong in the first place.

    Remember that bullshit empty plane photo some woman posted to X, which you shared here, as "proof" Vegas was dying? It was supposedly a flight from New Jersey to Vegas. The problem was that it was clearly during the pre-boarding phase, so the photo meant absolutely nothing. Rather than concede you missed that (which can happen), you argued back and forth with about 15 messages to me that the photo was still meaningful.

    Guess who even joined in with telling you that you were wrong? Your favorite former poster, The Boz!

    I bring this up because these are examples of how you frustrate people here. To be honest, this frustrates me as well.

    When people see stuff likes this happening, they want to relentlessly troll you, and it's hard for me to get in the middle and stop them when I see this level of stubbornness.

    This is an example of what I meant by disrupting the forum.

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    Anyway I'm just not going to do this forever here.

    There are going to be 3 possible ways this can go:

    1) You attempt to fit in here and people accept it and this issue dies down
    -or-
    2) You attempt to fit in here, but people continue bothering you to where I have to start deleting posts and banning people from threads
    -or-
    3) You don't attempt to fit in here, and I have to ban you for the sake of this forum's long term viability

    Trust me when I say that I really don't want to ban you, which is why I have avoided taking any real action this year, other than a few posting limits.

    But I just can't do this where every thread is going to be you posting some BS thing, doubling and tripling down on it, and fighting everyone to the death who points it out.

    I'd rather ban you than witness this every day.

     
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    ever have Déjà vu on your Déjà vu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I'd rather ban you than witness this every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Let's say a liberal here accused me of cheering on the January 6 riots.

    I would respond, "I never did such a thing. I was against the January 6 riots. You won't find a single post I made anywhere which was cheering them on."

    If the person said back, "Well maybe not, but I can tell by all of your defenses of Trump, you must have been cheering on the January 6 riots, so my point stands", I would think this person is a liar who doesn't operate in good faith.

    Same thing here.
    None of these examples stories ever apply to me.

    We don't know how Reiner felt about the attempt to kill Trump. Could I believe he was happy about it? Yes. Could I believe he didn't like it, despite his own vocal opposition to Trump? Again, yes.

    The only people who know the answer would be those Reiner told personally. But that encompasses nobody on this forum.

    You have zero evidence that Reiner cheered on the assassination attempt. Absolutely zero. You stated it as if it were fact. When challenged, you could not provide anything, and changed the story to how you were assuming this was true. (It's one thing or the other -- either you have evidence he did, or you're assuming he did!)
    It was a general statement based on years of his online posted hate towards Trump. It was also my opinion only and because I say so. I also did come back and post supporting evidence that RR hated Trump. I honestly didnt care enough to push the topic further.

    Now, again, there's nothing wrong with misremembering, or accidentally internalizing something you read as fact. As I said, I've accidentally done it myself at times, and I feel foolish when people point out the truth to me. But I won't double down at that point. I'll say, "Whoops, I guess I remembered wrong", and move on.
    I already answered this in my post above.

    For whatever reason, when this happens to you here, you will never admit you were wrong in the first place.
    Pot calling kettle.

    Remember that bullshit empty plane photo some woman posted to X, which you shared here, as "proof" Vegas was dying? It was supposedly a flight from New Jersey to Vegas. The problem was that it was clearly during the pre-boarding phase, so the photo meant absolutely nothing. Rather than concede you missed that (which can happen), you argued back and forth with about 15 messages to me that the photo was still meaningful.
    Druff- You have been stuck on this topic and refuse to accpet any other view point. You are now also putting words into my mouth that I never said. I also broke that entire photo down and explained all of it in detail. In short, the husband was sitting on the plane, knew his flight to Vegas was going to be empty, texted his wife to show here and then she added on her personal opinion about the current status about Vegas tourism. I saw the open compartment door and it was not the smoking gun as you thought it was. You also got on Twitter and slammed the author and no one else supported you there. Again, I saw the whole entire picture and then broke the whole thing down to where no one could debunk it. Youre now re-telling the story the way YOU want it to be told and making out there is no way to question you on it "because I said so". I am telling you, the whole story was easy to analyis and draw an obvious conclusion. But you are back to "its only this way because I say so" and that isnt the absolute end all of the story.

    Add- This example supports that I have said before- the husband on the plane was able to "read the room", it was that easy and obvious. It blows my mind that most members here are poker players and cant read the room, including Druff. And I know exactly why- they are using their emotions vs critical thinking skills. I am not a pro poker player and even I know this from working in the streets. This is a basic survival skill and it seems some members here dont have it, unfortunately. The husband on the plane had been sitting there long enough to read the room, analysis it, take a picture on his phone and send it to his wife in Vegas, so easy to see.

    Guess who even joined in with telling you that you were wrong? Your favorite former poster, The Boz!
    Again who is to say he was right- "because I say so"., I still say Boz was wrong on that topic and not going to change my final opinion just because you wrote it again here saying so. Proof that you sometimes re-coat a story as truth- I have never said Boz was my "favorite poster" here.

    I bring this up because these are examples of how you frustrate people here. To be honest, this frustrates me as well.
    Again, pot calling kettle. That also sounds like a personal opinion you and they need to work on. I have thick skin and learned to scroll past and ignore certain posts and users here and not let them get to me. Thicken up that skin and learn to scroll past and ignore.

    When people see stuff likes this happening, they want to relentlessly troll you, and it's hard for me to get in the middle and stop them when I see this level of stubbornness.
    I do the same back to them, that is why you get the complaints.

    This is an example of what I meant by disrupting the forum.
    I actually dont do it, you just side with the liberals. Go back and look at my Rob Reiner post. I agreed with everyone in the post in my first paragraph and then even said I mostly agree with you. But then because I gave my own personal opinion that I do not have to probe or validate, I was attacked as the resident liberals here have to pounce and attack, My post on RR was very generic and did NOT slander RR at all or fully support Trump, I gave a very balance OPINION on the topic, but the resident liberals needed to attack someone who slightly disagreed with them and you had to join in and support them, even though my post was harmless and really didnt shake the tree at all. Druff- this is exactly how you have gone purple- You have been posting in here based on emotions verse real facts. You should have really read my RR post and observed that it was pretty neutral and I only gave an opinion that was based on past observations. Again, I really didnt care enough to deep drive iinto it. Like I have said here many times- Funny how desertrunner is always wrong. (but he really isnt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Anyway I'm just not going to do this forever here.

    There are going to be 3 possible ways this can go:

    1) You attempt to fit in here and people accept it and this issue dies down
    -or-
    2) You attempt to fit in here, but people continue bothering you to where I have to start deleting posts and banning people from threads
    -or-
    3) You don't attempt to fit in here, and I have to ban you for the sake of this forum's long term viability

    Trust me when I say that I really don't want to ban you, which is why I have avoided taking any real action this year, other than a few posting limits.

    But I just can't do this where every thread is going to be you posting some BS thing, doubling and tripling down on it, and fighting everyone to the death who points it out.

    I'd rather ban you than witness this every day.
    What the fuck- All I did was give a neutral opinion on a celebrity death and not engage any other member here and now we are back in this old thread lecturing me and I didnt even do anything. After the previous warnings in this thread, all of my postings have been neutral and fine. I posted my opinion on RR, Kirk and Trump and just because someone didnt like my opinion, they sound the alarm and then Druff comes running in here and has to start finger waving shaming me for actually DOING NOTHING. i GAVE MY NEUTRAL OPINION ON THE RR DEATH, NOTHING ELSE. I DID fit in, I didnt attack anyone and I was following the posted board rules. Druff, you got this one wrong, again.

    If I posted here that RR had blue hair and could not prove it- Who the fuck cares, its still free speech, even though the 1st Amendment doesnt apply to private property here, suddenly every single (unpopular) opinion have to be proven?? My god man, wed bee here all week.

    Sorry Druff, youre over-reacting here and over managing the board. I haven't done anything to deserve all of this over the top management, You have now gone UK and trying to totally control any free speech here.

    What does it mean to micromanage a person?

    To micromanage someone means to excessively control or scrutinize their work, focusing too much on minor details and restricting their autonomy, often stemming from a lack of trust, leading to decreased employee morale, initiative, and productivity, and burnout for both manager and employee. It involves dictating every step, demanding constant updates, and refusing to delegate, rather than trusting employees to achieve the desired outcome
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    yeah druff give the guy a break

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    yeah druff give the guy a break
    It’s exactly this kind of liberal attitude that ruined this site. Plus the pedos

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    If the non liberals have to live with the prolific trolling by the liberals then the liberals should have to live with getting getting trolled to.

    The liberals trolling of DR is gratuitous and constant. Druff cracks the whip only on one side. Warnings by him are ignored by the lib side. When druff asked for everyone to quit using the word pedo, the very next post in the thread was sonatine calling DR pedorunner. Thats the lack of respect he gets from them.

    Until Druff administers at least a modicum of discipline to his libtard friends the forum has no hope. The one-sided moderation is tiresome.

     
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    I deal with this type of shit every day on Facebook. By choice. I might be a masochist.

    And I'm not talking about you, desertrunner.

    But if you want to hear about liberals, you should see the dumb shit I answer each day, more just out of curiosity to see what the person will say back.

    Like I saw this TDS woman sharing a graphic showing that under Biden, 16 million jobs were created, and under Trump, 1 million jobs were lost. The graphic obnoxiously said something like, "Go ahead and fact check it!"

    She was sharing it like she was completely owning right wingers -- that Biden was masterful with the economy, while Trump has been a disaster.

    I asked her, "What occurred at the beginning of Biden's term to bring so many new jobs?"

    She played dumb. I asked again, and gave a hint. I told her to focus on 2020, and then the change we had in 2021-2022. She still played dumb.

    I finally gave her the answer: The COVID shutdowns of 2020, followed by the reopenings of 2021 and 2022. This caused a massive artificially forced job loss in 2020, and huge job gains in 2021 and 2022. I told her that you can't credit Biden for any of this -- it was just people returning to work after being shut out of their jobs. I stated that a monkey could have been President and experienced the same 2021-22 job growth.

    She wouldn't accept it. She again repeated, "Go fact check it, these numbers are right."

    She also stated, "That's your opinion. You're not an expert. Biden created 16 million jobs, Trump is losing people their jobs. If you think I'm wrong, fact check it!"

    She wasn't trolling me. She honestly believed that the COVID reopening had nothing to do with this, and was devoid of all logic.

    Now... at least this was taking place on her personal Facebook page. I wasn't forced to respond to her. I wasn't even forced to remain Facebook friends with her. I could have ended it at any time. It was my (probably stupid) choice to engage.

    But the conversation was very frustrating. I couldn't get her to concede the most super-obvious and super-transparent point. She was going to defend her illogical point at all costs.



    That's what I feel happens here with you. I brought up the plane thing because it was the perfect example.

    A guy getting on an airplane during pre-boarding cannot "read the room" regarding how busy it will be, much like I can't guess how full Dodger Stadium will be if I'm the first one through the gates, 90 minutes before gametime. This is something you have to wait and see, regarding how much everything fills.

    And, as I pointed out at the time, there was no reason to take guesses. The guy was not going anywhere. He was taking the flight! All he had to do was take a picture once the doors were closed, and he could show a true depiction of the plane's supposed emptiness.

    But he didn't. You know why? Because like 80% of the stuff on X these days, it was misleading engagement bait. Which I despise.

    So when you accidentally post this dumb engagement bait, just take the L and admit it. Even I've made the mistake before, where I've accidentally shared something misleading or which has already been debunked. I admit it, scold myself for not thinking critically enough, and move on. You won't find one example here where I stick to my guns in the face of obvious debunking of what I'm claiming.

    If you still can't understand why that airplane picture was just bullshit engagement bait, and you can't understand why it annoyed people when you defended it, then you don't understand PFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I deal with this type of shit every day on Facebook. By choice. I might be a masochist.

    And I'm not talking about you, desertrunner.

    But if you want to hear about liberals, you should see the dumb shit I answer each day, more just out of curiosity to see what the person will say back.

    Like I saw this TDS woman sharing a graphic showing that under Biden, 16 million jobs were created, and under Trump, 1 million jobs were lost. The graphic obnoxiously said something like, "Go ahead and fact check it!"

    She was sharing it like it was completely owning the right -- that Biden was masterful with the economy, while Trump has been a disaster.

    I asked her, "What occurred at the beginning of Biden's term to bring so many new jobs?"

    She played dumb. I asked again, and gave a hint. I told her to focus on 2020, and then the change we had in 2021-2022. She still played dumb.

    I finally gave her the answer: The COVID shutdowns of 2020, followed by the reopenings of 2021 and 2022. This caused a massive artificially forced job loss in 2020, and huge job gains in 2021 and 2022. I told her that you can't credit Biden for any of this -- that it was just people returning to work after being shut out of their jobs. I stated that a monkey could have been President and experienced the same 2021-22 job growth.

    She wouldn't accept it. She again repeated, "Go fact check it, these numbers are right."

    She also stated, "That's your opinion. You're not an expert. Biden created 16 million jobs, Trump is losing people their jobs. If you think I'm wrong, fact check it!"

    She wasn't trolling me. She honestly believed that the COVID reopening had nothing to do with this, and was devoid of all logic.

    Now... at least this was taking place on her personal Facebook page. I wasn't forced to respond to her. I wasn't even forced to remain Facebook friends with her. I could have ended it at any time. It was my (probably stupid) choice to engage.

    But the conversation was very frustrating. I couldn't get her to concede the most super-obvious and super-transparent point. She was going to defend her illogical point at all costs.



    That's what I feel happens here with you. I brought up the plane thing because it was the perfect example.

    A guy getting on an airplane during pre-boarding cannot "read the room" regarding how busy it will be, much like I can't guess how full Dodger Stadium will be if I'm the first one through the gates, 90 minutes before gametime. This is something you have to wait and see, regarding how much everything fills.

    And, as I pointed out at the time, there was no reason to take guesses. The guy was not going anywhere. He was taking the flight! All he had to do was take a picture once the doors were closed, and he could show a true depiction of the plane's supposed emptiness.

    But he didn't. You know why? Because like 80% of the stuff on X these days, it was misleading engagement bait. Which I despise.

    So when you accidentally post this dumb engagement bait, just take the L and admit it. Even I've made the mistake before, where I've accidentally shared something misleading or which has already been debunked. I admit it, scold myself for not thinking critically enough, and move on. You won't find one example here where I stick to my guns in the face of obvious debunking of what I'm claiming.

    If you still can't understand why that airplane picture was just bullshit engagement bait, and you can't understand why it annoyed people when you defended it, then you don't understand PFA.
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    What the fuck- All I did was give a neutral opinion on a celebrity death and not engage any other member here and now we are back in this old thread lecturing me and I didnt even do anything. After the previous warnings in this thread, all of my postings have been neutral and fine. I posted my opinion on RR, Kirk and Trump and just because someone didnt like my opinion, they sound the alarm and then Druff comes running in here and has to start finger waving shaming me for actually DOING NOTHING. i GAVE MY NEUTRAL OPINION ON THE RR DEATH, NOTHING ELSE. I DID fit in, I didnt attack anyone and I was following the posted board rules. Druff, you got this one wrong, again.

    If I posted here that RR had blue hair and could not prove it- Who the fuck cares, its still free speech, even though the 1st Amendment doesnt apply to private property here, suddenly every single (unpopular) opinion have to be proven?? My god man, wed bee here all week.

    Sorry Druff, youre over-reacting here and over managing the board. I haven't done anything to deserve all of this over the top management, You have now gone UK and trying to totally control any free speech here.
    It's just become an irritant to everyone, that's all.

    If this were the first time such a thing has happened, I wouldn't even have mentioned it.

    To be honest, this Reiner situation is far less egregious than the New Jersey airplane discussion, where you refused to admit that SOMEONE ELSE'S obvious Twitter engagement bait was fake. Like, it was so obvious, especially once pointed out how the plane in the pre-boarding phase. You couldn't concede that one. I went back and forth with you over and over and over and over and over, and you couldn't concede it.

    To this day, as we just saw, you are still defending it. Still acting like it's just my opinion against your opinion. Nope. You posted an obvious hoax and wouldn't give up.

    That's what people are sick of seeing here. It's a pattern.

    This has never been a 100% free speech forum. It's a "mostly free speech until Druff sees things going in directions he doesn't like" forum. And that's necessary because this forum would turn into absolute shit if I asserted no standards.

    The bottom line is that you want to be here yet you don't want to fit in, and I'm just not understanding that.

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