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    kalam, this is for your conspiracy theory nonsense, ליהנות



    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1999107884806762741

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    kalam - make sure to take your blood pressure medicine before watching.



    https://twitter.com/TCNetwork/status/1999195787490721842

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    kalam, this is for your conspiracy theory nonsense, ליהנות

    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1999107884806762741
    Jake Shields is one of only a few people I have blocked on Twitter. Funny story that I think I have told before. But just after Elon bought Twitter and all the right wing garbage first started becoming prominent on the platform (way before 10/7), I noticed that I was getting a lot of Jake Shields tweets in my timeline. I actually knew who he was, because I was briefly into MMA when Shields was fighting (Strikeforce on Showtime) and remembered him. But I had no clue why I was suddenly getting tweets from him now. Anyways, it only took clicking on a couple tweets to realize it was all just antisemitic garbage, and I quickly blocked it; because why in the world would I care to read the antisemitic ramblings of a random middling retired MMA fighter?

    Of course fast forward two years later and I am much more calloused and dont even bother to block all the antisemitic garbage on my timeline. I just accept it as a feature of the platform and keep scrolling. But Jake stays blocked as a reminder of a more innocent past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
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    kalam, this is for your conspiracy theory nonsense, ליהנות

    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1999107884806762741
    Jake Shields is one of only a few people I have blocked on Twitter. Funny story that I think I have told before. But just after Elon bought Twitter and all the right wing garbage first started becoming prominent on the platform (way before 10/7), I noticed that I was getting a lot of Jake Shields tweets in my timeline. I actually knew who he was, because I was briefly into MMA when Shields was fighting (Strikeforce on Showtime) and remembered him. But I had no clue why I was suddenly getting tweets from him now. Anyways, it only took clicking on a couple tweets to realize it was all just antisemitic garbage, and I quickly blocked it; because why in the world would I care to read the antisemitic ramblings of a random middling retired MMA fighter?

    Of course fast forward two years later and I am much more calloused and dont even bother to block all the antisemitic garbage on my timeline. I just accept it as a feature of the platform and keep scrolling. But Jake stays blocked as a reminder of a more innocent past.


    cool anecdote and all, but you failed to address what your prime minister said and it's context, esp for all of us conspiratards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    kalam - make sure to take your blood pressure medicine before watching.

    https://twitter.com/TCNetwork/status/1999195787490721842
    LOL. Qatar and Trump definitely gave the green light for Israel to kill Hamas leadership; Israel just bungled it. And the Qatar defense pact had already been arranged and was part of all the deals Trump made with Qatar for his own personal gain. At this point Tucker should just be regarded as Qatari propaganda. No different than Al Jazeera. He doesn't even talk about American domestic issues anymore, unless there is an angle to criticize the Jews. It is just non stop Israel/Jew bashing on behalf of his new paymasters.

    Trump isn't Israel first or America first. He is Trump first. He is going to do whatever he feels is best for himself, which in this case included making a bunch of deals with Qatar, including the security guarantees and giving them some kind of joint Air Force base in the US. And Tucker's "insights" are all just lying propaganda.

    I do appreciate in his recent "interview" with the Qatari Prime Minister (I guarantee that guy has never had a real interview in his life, just scripted propaganda) Tucker just threw out that he was buying property in Qatar, like the PM didn't already know. No Americans are buying property in Qatar unless it is approved, and for someone high profile like Tucker it would have to be approved at the very top; and in Tucker's case it was probably payment for services rendered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    Jake Shields is one of only a few people I have blocked on Twitter. Funny story that I think I have told before. But just after Elon bought Twitter and all the right wing garbage first started becoming prominent on the platform (way before 10/7), I noticed that I was getting a lot of Jake Shields tweets in my timeline. I actually knew who he was, because I was briefly into MMA when Shields was fighting (Strikeforce on Showtime) and remembered him. But I had no clue why I was suddenly getting tweets from him now. Anyways, it only took clicking on a couple tweets to realize it was all just antisemitic garbage, and I quickly blocked it; because why in the world would I care to read the antisemitic ramblings of a random middling retired MMA fighter?

    Of course fast forward two years later and I am much more calloused and dont even bother to block all the antisemitic garbage on my timeline. I just accept it as a feature of the platform and keep scrolling. But Jake stays blocked as a reminder of a more innocent past.
    cool anecdote and all, but you failed to address what your prime minister said and it's context, esp for all of us conspiratards.
    I said I blocked Shields. I obviously could watch the tweet if I really wanted to. But like I said, blocking Jake Shields is actually something I have nostalgia for, so I think I will just go the rest of my life never reading/watching another Jake Shields tweet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    kalam, this is for your conspiracy theory nonsense, ליהנות

    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1999107884806762741
    Jake Shields is one of only a few people I have blocked on Twitter. Funny story that I think I have told before. But just after Elon bought Twitter and all the right wing garbage first started becoming prominent on the platform (way before 10/7), I noticed that I was getting a lot of Jake Shields tweets in my timeline. I actually knew who he was, because I was briefly into MMA when Shields was fighting (Strikeforce on Showtime) and remembered him. But I had no clue why I was suddenly getting tweets from him now. Anyways, it only took clicking on a couple tweets to realize it was all just antisemitic garbage, and I quickly blocked it; because why in the world would I care to read the antisemitic ramblings of a random middling retired MMA fighter?

    Of course fast forward two years later and I am much more calloused and dont even bother to block all the antisemitic garbage on my timeline. I just accept it as a feature of the platform and keep scrolling. But Jake stays blocked as a reminder of a more innocent past.
    But everyone should read your anti-palestinian garbage, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    So you're saying you'd have supported a more aggressive bombing of Iran?

    Interesting.

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    What I don't understand about the Israel-bashing is that it's all over the place.

    Sometimes it casts Palestinians (or even Hamas) as victims, but when you point out the atrocities there, you get "Well I didn't say I was pro-Hamas, I just am against what Israel is doing."

    Sometimes it casts Iran as a victim, but when you point out that Iran was largely behind the 10/7 attacks, you get "Well I never said I was pro-Iran".

    Sometimes it casts Qatar as a victim, but when you point out that Qatar had a hand in 10/7, and also pays for a ton of US-aimed propaganda, you get, "Well, look at Trump taking favors from Qatar!"

    Sometimes it casts the American taxpayer as a victim, but when you point out how little the money spent on Israel is compared to the overall budget, and how much larger instances of spending (which are also really wasteful) are ignored by the same people, they say, "Stop changing the subject!"

    Sometimes it's claimed that Israel controls US policy, media, Hollywood, banks, or all of the above, and you post counterpoints debunking it, you get, "Oh that's what they want you to think!"


    So I'll ask very clearly:

    What is the actual problem with Israel? What are they doing, where is the proof, how much is it costing us, why don't you feel their actions are justified, and why are you way more focused upon them than every other foreign country, including direct stated enemies of the US?



    If you hate the Jews and are just taking this opportunity to go after them because it's become fashionable on social media, just admit it. Don't pretend you care about the "innocent" people of Gaza who are victims of "genocide" and "starvation".

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    The problem with Israel is they control the US govt and our foreign policy is dedicated to Israel's strategic interest at tremendous cost to America.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to establish greater Israel, that's a policy of stealing land from like 5 countries.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to kill all those kids and terrorize all their neighbors at will.
    If they want to do that trhey should fund it themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    The problem with Israel is they control the US govt and our foreign policy is dedicated to Israel's strategic interest at tremendous cost to America.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to establish greater Israel, that's a policy of stealing land from like 5 countries.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to kill all those kids and terrorize all their neighbors at will.
    If they want to do that trhey should fund it themselves.
    What is the "tremendous cost to America"?

    You realize that if all the money spent on Israel was returned to the US and spent directly on the people, it would amount to a piddling amount per person, right?

    There is no "Greater Israel" plan. That's more nonsense put out by Jew haters and conspiracy theorists. Israel just wants to be safe in regular Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    The problem with Israel is they control the US govt and our foreign policy is dedicated to Israel's strategic interest at tremendous cost to America.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to establish greater Israel, that's a policy of stealing land from like 5 countries.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to kill all those kids and terrorize all their neighbors at will.
    If they want to do that trhey should fund it themselves.
    What is the "tremendous cost to America"?

    You realize that if all the money spent on Israel was returned to the US and spent directly on the people, it would amount to a piddling amount per person, right?

    There is no "Greater Israel" plan. That's more nonsense put out by Jew haters and conspiracy theorists. Israel just wants to be safe in regular Israel.
    Druff's strategy: Deny, deny, deny

    Yes, there is a Greater Israel plan being pushed by zionist members of the Likud Party. Google it. Read several sources. They openly claim that all the west bank is Israel. And the hardcore right of Likud believe Israel should expand to triple it's size.

    There are 500K Israeli settlers in the west bank and they continue to annex more and more of it. This is not a covert operation. They are openly doing it. Another 19 outposts were just approved.

    Why would anyone move settlers into an area that they know they will have to leave if there is a two state solution. The answer, known by Likud, is they will never allow a two state solution.

    A more important question. Why would Americans believe a two state solution is possible when Israeli settlers continue to move into the area?

    How stupid do they think we are? Well, I think they think, we are stupid and they can dupe us into a regime change war with Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    The problem with Israel is they control the US govt and our foreign policy is dedicated to Israel's strategic interest at tremendous cost to America.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to establish greater Israel, that's a policy of stealing land from like 5 countries.

    And no Israel doesn't have the right to kill all those kids and terrorize all their neighbors at will.
    If they want to do that trhey should fund it themselves.
    What is the "tremendous cost to America"?

    You realize that if all the money spent on Israel was returned to the US and spent directly on the people, it would amount to a piddling amount per person, right?

    There is no "Greater Israel" plan. That's more nonsense put out by Jew haters and conspiracy theorists. Israel just wants to be safe in regular Israel.
    The Jew argument of 'it's not much money' is comically out of touch.

    Jews do best operating in the shadows; this flagrantly genocide will make the world worse for them.for generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    What is the "tremendous cost to America"?

    You realize that if all the money spent on Israel was returned to the US and spent directly on the people, it would amount to a piddling amount per person, right?

    There is no "Greater Israel" plan. That's more nonsense put out by Jew haters and conspiracy theorists. Israel just wants to be safe in regular Israel.
    The Jew argument of 'it's not much money' is comically out of touch.

    Jews do best operating in the shadows; this flagrantly genocide will make the world worse for them.for generations.
    How is it out of touch?

    Any number spent via the federal budget is going to look huge to individuals, unless you are as rich as Elon or Bezos. I always hated histrionics such as "OMG look what the government wasted $3 million on", and even if it's totally ridiculous, it cost each citizen literally one penny. People have trouble breaking it down in these terms, though. They see a large amount of money listed, imagine what they could have done with the money, and get mad.

    Israel got billions instead of millions, but it's still a small amount of money, especially when stretched over the period of time it was given. If you want to argue that we shouldn't give Israel anything, I'll disagree, but at least I can understand it.

    But if you're making the money given to Israel as your main case for fiscal irresponsibility, but ignoring everything else (including stuff MUCH bigger), then it's more motivated by Jew hatred than concern for taxpayer dollars.

    Regarding the genocide, sure... if you want to keep imagining something that isn't happening, and believing propaganda from the least truthful people on earth, I can't stop you from being a retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If you hate the Jews and are just taking this opportunity to go after them because it's become fashionable on social media, just admit it. Don't pretend you care about the "innocent" people of Gaza who are victims of "genocide" and "starvation".
    Gosh, maybe what I’m feeling is antisemitism after all.

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    Just a minute ago, here's the headline on drudge.

    U.S. Forces Raid Ship, Seize Cargo Headed to Iran From China

    Operation highlights the Trump administration’s use of aggressive tactics against adversaries at sea that were rarely used in the past.


    A U.S. special operations team boarded a ship in the Indian Ocean last month and seized military-related articles headed to Iran from China, U.S. officials said, a rare interdiction operation at sea aimed at blocking Tehran from rebuilding its military arsenal.

    This is the reason we're in a cold war w China, and if Israel gets their way we'll soon be in a war w Iran.
    How much will that cost?
    More than you can imagine or even dream, we're risking all life on Earth just to protect Israel.
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    I had always heard about Netanyahu’s corruption charges. More recently I heard Trump argues Bibi ought to be pardoned. Now I’m curious

    I skimmed through the three cases. You call that grift and corruption? That’s popcorn. We Americans laugh at Israel’s notion of corruption

    Free Bibi

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