Desertrunner issues - December 2025

[Ricky]

1) Stop calling people here pedos. We had one actual pedo on the forum (unbeknownst to us, until he vanished), and that was 4Dragons. Nobody else on this forum has shown any pedo tendencies, so that insult is stupid and should be retired. If it were aimed at one person and at least for some actual reason, it would be different, but desertrunner uses this against several people on PFA, just because he doesn't like them.


3) Stop accusing of longtime members "ruining the forum". The longtime members ARE the forum. They're the reason it still exists after all these years. You're not going to convince me to remove them, nor are you going to convince me to change the tone the forum has had since day one.

As occurred last time, your disruptiveness overcame your value here, and I had to ban you. I'd prefer that not happen again, but a change in the above four behaviors would go a long way towards that.

To be fair, I don't want DR banned.

I've made it clear: we've been swimming in a pool of insufferable cunts with varying degrees of social retardation, violent tendencies, psychological disorders..... even some people that are obvious psychopaths.

Through that, over time (re: two decades fellas) we've gleaned some of the best of them..... weeded out some of the worst of them.... and lost too many imo (rip to so many posters I miss, sorely, I've made threads about this very subject).

Buuuut, believe it or not, nobody comes here because this is where we think the news of the world is to he had. We come here to see what our long winded leader and our merry band of misfits have to say about those subjects! And I'm tired of DR deciding not to acquiesce, and continue to beat his chest trying to get Todd to "see the light".

Todd is incredibly smart. He has kept us all together, at great effort, time and personal expense. Just for all us Goonies to have a place to cut it up with one another, and do so without fear of censorship or doxxing or exploitation of any kind. Because he likes us, and we like him. Even the ones that troll the fuck out of him have love for him. DR if we were all hanging out at his house, your behaviour and arguing and the you know better blah blah blah would not be acceptable. It should be no different here. Just read the room, fall into line, or start your own forum..... I'll even join up. Being a forum owner is a thankless business, I know first hand. But try maybe thanking Druff and dropping all the stuff he's outlined.

There have been posts of yours that I saw value in. Until recently, I had no issue with you. But, druffs being too nice, and you are making him waste too many keystrokes on you. He's one of my favorite posters, I'd really rather read what he has to say on everything NOT Desertrunner. Like it or not, Sonatine is a made man. You...... aren't. I'm sorry, but 90% of us will agree, and this isn't political. I hope we can drop it all, and get back to normally scheduled hijinks. Cheers. ��

[Sanlmar]

I've explained this a million times before regarding desertrunner, but I'll explain it again regarding why he's not banned on PFA.

Yes, he gets some extra chances because of my personal friendship with him, but you won't find a forum owner on earth where that's not the case.

However, as you guys have seen, I was willing to ban him (for a long time) before, so it's not like that's off the table.


But that's not the main reason he stays here. Recall that I have let many people stay here over time who annoy people (and none of them were friends on mine), as I really don't like banning for that reason. Most recently, that "joe croupier" guy got a lot of chances before I banned him, and he had a shorter leash than everyone else because he was new.

desertrunner brings some value to the forum in that he is a topic starter. Some of the topics are of low value because they're niche interests of his, which are unlikely to spawn discussion. However, many of the other topics bring on real discussion, which is good for the forum. In fact, in some cases I'm about to start a topic myself, and see that desertrunner already started it earlier in the day. More importantly, he brings other topics to the forum which I think are good, yet otherwise I wouldn't have thought of posting.

We have a number of "reply guy" types here who are very good and prolific posters, but they rarely start topics. A forum with 100% reply guys will die, by definition. A forum with all topic starters will become a cluttered mess. You need a combination of both for a forum that stays active.

I try to start topics myself, and I do it while keeping in mind what people are likely to want to read and respond. Sometimes even I blow it, and a topic I'll start will get 0-1 replies.

But it's good to have regular topic starters besides me. sonatine is one of them, and I appreciate that. But desertrunner is another. And while desertrunner would sometimes overdo it, his topic starts is and was a net positive to the forum. I just had to get the number of topics under control, which I did through the software changes. That's why I made that modification, rather than just ban him. If his topics were mostly shit, I would have just banned him, despite our friendship.

Do I agree with desertrunner's assessment that PFA would be dead without him? Obviously not. It went on just fine during the time he was banned, and it would continue to be active if I were to ban him today. He does overvalue his own presence here, and he undervalues the longtime members here, acting as if they don't matter. In a small community such as this one, the longtime members matter very much, and it's important as a forum owner to respect them. He doesn't seem to understand that I am never going to ban longtime members just because he doesn't like them, and that this forum mainly exists as a continuation of a poker subcommunity which spawned in 2004. PFA is never going to be remade or reformed. It will stay mostly as-is, and the day I have to change that is the day it shuts down.

There ARE two different breeds. Reply guys and thread starters.

Reply guys are more likely to share a personal opinion.

Thread starters tend to simply repost Twitter.

I would wager most members are interested in sharing experiences and thoughts than using PFA as a safety net should they have missed something during their evening doom scroll.

Vance and Erika fucking morphing into Mamdani is more akin to what you would experience over drinks with friends.

It’s why Tusk is one of the most prolific threads.

Just my opinion.

[nunbeater]

What I'd like to see from desertrunner is the following. And yes, if the below continues too much, I will have to ban him, as much as I don't want to do it:

1) Stop calling people here pedos. We had one actual pedo on the forum (unbeknownst to us, until he vanished), and that was 4Dragons. Nobody else on this forum has shown any pedo tendencies, so that insult is stupid and should be retired. If it were aimed at one person and at least for some actual reason, it would be different, but desertrunner uses this against several people on PFA, just because he doesn't like them.

2) "Liberal logic" and "arguing like a liberal" needs to be abandoned, especially because desertrunner is now using that line toward people like Tellafriend, VaughnP, 1dollarboxcar, and even me. Even worse, the allegation makes no sense, as these people are not engaging in any arguments typically used by liberals. In fact, desertrunner would be best off never mentioning liberals here, except in political discussions.

3) Stop accusing of longtime members "ruining the forum". The longtime members ARE the forum. They're the reason it still exists after all these years. You're not going to convince me to remove them, nor are you going to convince me to change the tone the forum has had since day one.

4) Stop complaining about "censorship" because I change thread titles or merge threads. I've stated the way I want this forum to look and feel, and it's my choice. Also, most people on PFA agree with what I'm doing regarding that.


The above just pisses everyone off, causes needless controversy, and ultimately clutters the forum with all of the back-and-forth arguing about your presence.

As occurred last time, your disruptiveness overcame your value here, and I had to ban you. I'd prefer that not happen again, but a change in the above four behaviors would go a long way towards that.

whoa you might have to ban the DR again? no way what happened?

[mickeycrimm]

desertpedo, thoughts?

Druff, this is what tine thinks about your directives. The very next post after you he calls DR a pedo. He threw it right in your face. Because he knows he will get away with it. He has a long history of calling people on this forum pedos. But you crack the whip on DR about it. I dont get it. And he just showed you he dont give a fuck what you say he’ll continue using the word. Because he has no respect for you.

Everyone knows what a prolific and viscious troll tine is. But boz took the fight right to him. Tine met his match and ran for the hills. Boz bitchslapped his ass clean to china and back. Lololololol! Thats why those idiots are super happy you got rid of him. They can now get back to trolling people without that tough ass boz running interference.

And that miserable little bitch, bcr, calling boz a miserable little bitch. Thats some funny shit right there now.

[Dan Druff]

I've explained this a million times before regarding desertrunner, but I'll explain it again regarding why he's not banned on PFA.

Yes, he gets some extra chances because of my personal friendship with him, but you won't find a forum owner on earth where that's not the case.

However, as you guys have seen, I was willing to ban him (for a long time) before, so it's not like that's off the table.


But that's not the main reason he stays here. Recall that I have let many people stay here over time who annoy people (and none of them were friends on mine), as I really don't like banning for that reason. Most recently, that "joe croupier" guy got a lot of chances before I banned him, and he had a shorter leash than everyone else because he was new.

desertrunner brings some value to the forum in that he is a topic starter. Some of the topics are of low value because they're niche interests of his, which are unlikely to spawn discussion. However, many of the other topics bring on real discussion, which is good for the forum. In fact, in some cases I'm about to start a topic myself, and see that desertrunner already started it earlier in the day. More importantly, he brings other topics to the forum which I think are good, yet otherwise I wouldn't have thought of posting.

We have a number of "reply guy" types here who are very good and prolific posters, but they rarely start topics. A forum with 100% reply guys will die, by definition. A forum with all topic starters will become a cluttered mess. You need a combination of both for a forum that stays active.

I try to start topics myself, and I do it while keeping in mind what people are likely to want to read and respond. Sometimes even I blow it, and a topic I'll start will get 0-1 replies.

But it's good to have regular topic starters besides me. sonatine is one of them, and I appreciate that. But desertrunner is another. And while desertrunner would sometimes overdo it, his topic starts is and was a net positive to the forum. I just had to get the number of topics under control, which I did through the software changes. That's why I made that modification, rather than just ban him. If his topics were mostly shit, I would have just banned him, despite our friendship.

Do I agree with desertrunner's assessment that PFA would be dead without him? Obviously not. It went on just fine during the time he was banned, and it would continue to be active if I were to ban him today. He does overvalue his own presence here, and he undervalues the longtime members here, acting as if they don't matter. In a small community such as this one, the longtime members matter very much, and it's important as a forum owner to respect them. He doesn't seem to understand that I am never going to ban longtime members just because he doesn't like them, and that this forum mainly exists as a continuation of a poker subcommunity which spawned in 2004. PFA is never going to be remade or reformed. It will stay mostly as-is, and the day I have to change that is the day it shuts down.

There ARE two different breeds. Reply guys and thread starters.

Reply guys are more likely to share a personal opinion.

Thread starters tend to simply repost Twitter.

I would wager most members are interested in sharing experiences and thoughts than using PFA as a safety net should they have missed something during their evening doom scroll.

Vance and Erika fucking morphing into Mamdani is more akin to what you would experience over drinks with friends.

It’s why Tusk is one of the most prolific threads.

Just my opinion.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

To be clear, I appreciate both the good thread starters AND the good reply guys. You need both for a successful forum. And the absence of either will lead to a dead forum.

I am a thread starter, and I do a lot more than repost Twitter. I usually interject my own opinion, and also will sometimes describe the situation in more detail than Twitter or a short article will do. I'm not looking for pats on the back for this, as it's my forum, and thus my responsibility to help keep it active.

My point was that desertrunner actually has value here, as he starts a number of threads which get people talking, and not just to troll him.

He just needs to reform his behavior on here and cease from doing the things I mentioned. For whatever reason, he's very stubborn about this, and instead thinks I just don't realize that the "liberals" are the problem.

This will eventually lead to his getting banned if it continues. I'm hoping he finally understands and stops the things I mentioned.

[The Icon]

There ARE two different breeds. Reply guys and thread starters.

Reply guys are more likely to share a personal opinion.

Thread starters tend to simply repost Twitter.

I would wager most members are interested in sharing experiences and thoughts than using PFA as a safety net should they have missed something during their evening doom scroll.

Vance and Erika fucking morphing into Mamdani is more akin to what you would experience over drinks with friends.

It’s why Tusk is one of the most prolific threads.

Just my opinion.

I'm hoping he finally understands and stops the things I mentioned.

So, the definition of insanity is……..

[GrenadaRoger]

nwp>dd>pfa 17 years back and there has always been someone whining about posters they didn't like (marty jewd tyde, sonny, mumbles, larry, garrett, sont etc) and stilll the forum keeps rolling on...

at least dessertrunner's posts can be understood by all, unlike sont's crew that speaks in codes that only they understand (just like actions by adolescents)

so let the clown show continue, i am laughing for a deeper reason

[nunbeater]

OK I now have desertrunner fatigue.

I mean holy shit he wants to turn druff's site into Storm Trooper waffen or what the fuck ever. my dude this is pokerfraudalert not desertrunnerhatestheblacks.com

desertrunner just to be clear, black fatigue is a concept pushed by literal neo-nazis and racists to further their bullshit agendas, and its bullshit. so of course you would fall for it. think of this though, when Cletus steals my fucking catalytic converter I don't go on some rampage against ALL white people because of one dude. it's fucking ridiculous.

jfc I could not imagine doing to one of my friends what you do to druff here. I have trolled my friends, argued with them, hell, gotten into fistfights with a few of them. But this shit you're doing? It's fucking embarrassing

[desertrunner]

nunbeater- Just using my allowed freedom of speech and expression here just exactly how you did above in starting this thread. EXACTLY everything you just did, I have done as well too, no more and no less. Funny how I do the very exact allowed activity as you, but you have to attack me for it. Hypocrite much?



Thanks for proving here that extreme liberalism is a mental disorder.








* Sent from the desertrunner dupe account.

[BCR]

Imagine you spend all night responding and arguing against Nick Fuentes and you wake up the next day and your friend has once again turned your site into a white power site ran by an Arab. At what point does it get exhausting?

[Pablo]

Desert has waged a Jihad on Druffs site since he started posting. Doesn't listen to Druffs repeated long winded pleas and explanations on how to behave himself. Druff takes the time to explain it to him like a 5 year old autist, instead he comes in like a suicide bomber ruining this forum until Druff had to nuke him.
Then Druff lets him back after a couple of Ramadans and how does he respond to this reprieve? He tries to impose his Shariah law on Druff and anyone who calls him out on his retarded extremism. I wonder how many posts Druff has had to delete of his and how much time he has spent coddling him into becoming civilized. You can't trust these Arabs to be civilized and assimilate. His terroristic Islamic tendencies can not be tamed by western ideals. His obsession with trannys and his constant racism is to deflect from his peoples destabilization of this world. Time to turn desert into glass.

[sonatine]

So is that all you took from what I wrote?

[mickeycrimm]

I now have nunbeater fatigue.

[sonatine]

I now have nunbeater fatigue.

soon youll have transgender whores freaking off on your grave fatigue.

[lol wow]

EYOOO FREE DR

[Dan Druff]

desertrunner, I'm not understanding is how you don't think that posts about "black fatigue" don't make this forum look really bad to lurkers/outsiders.

Your term and your shared tweets about it are very different than pointing out high crime in black communities, or high crime rates in general regarding black men. One is pointing out data-driven facts, and the other is claiming "fatigue" with an entire race.

By the way, it's also fine to point out when the media is covering up crimes by black people, such as when they hesitated to cover the horrendous train stabbing of that Ukrainian immigrant girl. That's an indictment of the mainstream media, and is fair to discuss and point out.

However, anyone here viewing your "black fatigue" posts (and other shared tweets about black people) are going to come away with the belief that you're trying to turn this site into Stormfront.

[zealanddonk]

the belief that you're trying to turn this site into Stormfront.

Either that or one last glorious Black Cock Jihad

[brutal_thinker]

desertrunner, I'm not understanding is how you don't think that posts about "black fatigue" don't make this forum look really bad to lurkers/outsiders.

Your term and your shared tweets about it are very different than pointing out high crime in black communities, or high crime rates in general regarding black men. One is pointing out data-driven facts, and the other is claiming "fatigue" with an entire race.

By the way, it's also fine to point out when the media is covering up crimes by black people, such as when they hesitated to cover the horrendous train stabbing of that Ukrainian immigrant girl. That's an indictment of the mainstream media, and is fair to discuss and point out.

However, anyone here viewing your "black fatigue" posts (and other shared tweets about black people) are going to come away with the belief that you're trying to turn this site into Stormfront.

It sure does make things look bad. I can tell you that Adolph Runner is literally the reason why I don't post more or spend more time lurking and reading. The worst part about it to me is his total refusal to accept any minor criticisms or points that others make. Rather he goes on these incessant rants about how everyone else is wrong and he is always correct. To be frank, I think he is a true racist who goes out of his way to copy or repost things from other extreme racists and then pretends like he is fighting the good fight. Adolph Runner, you are a cancer on this board and I honestly hope you listen to some of the criticisms and consider other opinions of your posts.

[Sloppy Joe]

I mean holy shit he wants to turn druff's site into Storm Trooper waffen or what the fuck ever. my dude this is pokerfraudalert not desertrunnerhatestheblacks.com

desertrunner just to be clear, black fatigue is a concept pushed by literal neo-nazis and racists to further their bullshit agendas, and its bullshit. so of course you would fall for it. think of this though, when Cletus steals my fucking catalytic converter I don't go on some rampage against ALL white people because of one dude. it's fucking ridiculous.

jfc I could not imagine doing to one of my friends what you do to druff here. I have trolled my friends, argued with them, hell, gotten into fistfights with a few of them. But this shit you're doing? It's fucking embarrassing

Why is this a mystery, time has proven druff is friends with a retard and enjoys being humiliated by him.

Speculate all you want as to why, but it's just established fact now. Been ongoing for years, right?

[Jayjami]

desertrunner, I'm not understanding is how you don't think that posts about "black fatigue" don't make this forum look really bad to lurkers/outsiders.

Your term and your shared tweets about it are very different than pointing out high crime in black communities, or high crime rates in general regarding black men. One is pointing out data-driven facts, and the other is claiming "fatigue" with an entire race.

By the way, it's also fine to point out when the media is covering up crimes by black people, such as when they hesitated to cover the horrendous train stabbing of that Ukrainian immigrant girl. That's an indictment of the mainstream media, and is fair to discuss and point out.

However, anyone here viewing your "black fatigue" posts (and other shared tweets about black people) are going to come away with the belief that you're trying to turn this site into Stormfront.

There's a simple solution. Set up an ***Official*** Autistic Retard Thread. Allow the sand nagger to post anything he wants there, and only there. Then we can all put him on ignore.