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    Washington DC - First openly retarded elected president exposed as pedo by newly released Epstein emails

    Notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein said of President Donald Trump, “I know how dirty donald is,” in a 2018 email thread about Trump’s former personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleading guilty to campaign finance violations and agreeing to cooperate in a federal investigation of the president.

    In a separate 2019 email released by House Democrats, Epstein told author Michael Wolff that his ex-friend Trump “knew about the girls” in a 2019 email.

    Epstein, in a 2011 email to his now-convicted procurer Ghislaine Maxwell, wrote, “I want you to realize that the dog that hasn’t barked is trump.”

    Epstein added in that same email that a person whom the Democrats identified as a victim of his, whose name was redacted in the email, “spent hours at my house with” Trump.



    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/12/trum...democrats.html

     
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    This has been covered before- if Trump was guilty of anything with Epstein, they would have burned Trump under the Biden Administration between 2021 and 2025...it never happened because there was nothing there.

    The Dems tried everything and nothing worked-

    - The Russia Hoax.
    - "Grab them by the pussy" hot mic video.
    - "the documents and Mar-a-Logo raid.
    - The bogus 32 felonies in New York.
    - The Georgia arrest.
    - The whole January 6 insurrection, except there was no insurrection or they would have charged him with it.

    Nothing sticks to "Teflon Don".

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    looks like i touched a deeply retarded nerve
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein said of President Donald Trump, “I know how dirty donald is,” in a 2018 email thread about Trump’s former personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleading guilty to campaign finance violations and agreeing to cooperate in a federal investigation of the president.

    In a separate 2019 email released by House Democrats, Epstein told author Michael Wolff that his ex-friend Trump “knew about the girls” in a 2019 email.

    Epstein, in a 2011 email to his now-convicted procurer Ghislaine Maxwell, wrote, “I want you to realize that the dog that hasn’t barked is trump.”

    Epstein added in that same email that a person whom the Democrats identified as a victim of his, whose name was redacted in the email, “spent hours at my house with” Trump.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/12/trum...democrats.html

    Um no.

    These emails confirm what I’ve said all along — that Trump had knowledge of Epstein’s crimes, but didn’t commit any himself.

    They also confirm that Trump attempted to talk to Ghislaine Maxwell about it, and convince her to put a stop to the whole thing.

    This doesn’t make Trump an angel, obviously. He should have reported it. But it’s strong evidence he never touched any underage girls in the Epstein scandal, and in fact tried to reason with Maxwell that they needed to stop.

     
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    wow you should totally tell that to literally every news site on earth, youd be a super big deal when they take you seriously.
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    kinda wild that theres more effort being spent in thread to discredit an obvious fact than trump is spending to discredit an obvious fact.


    like there is literally no such thing as a world where this doesnt create an instant tsunami of lawsuits if any of it wasnt true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    wow you should totally tell that to literally every news site on earth, youd be a super big deal when they take you seriously.
    Fortunately I didn't read this on any kind of news site or editorial where it comes with a spin, as it seems you did.

    I read the emails myself and came up with my own interpretation, which should be obvious to anyone with an above-room-temperature IQ.

    They were emails from Epstein (and some from author Michael Wolff), discussing how Trump had knowledge of his operation, but hadn't yet said a word about it.

    "dog that hasn't barked" = "Person with knowledge of my crimes, who has kept his mouth shut"


    Most telling were the exchanges between Epstein and Wolff. In late 2015, when Trump was running for President and there was increased scrutiny upon him. Wolff brought up to Epstein that CNN was likely going to ask Trump about his association with him. Epstein asked Wolff for advice regarding "crafting an answer" for Trump -- presumably the idea to write something for Trump to say which makes neither man look bad. Wolff responded, advising Epstein to do nothing, and that they should "let Trump hang himself" (by lying about his true relationship with Epstein), which could give Epstein "political currency" later.

    Note that this answer already implies that Trump didn't do anything with the girls himself, hence the need to have Trump "hang himself" in the situation by lying about his relationship with Epstein. If Trump had molested underage girls provided by Epstein, he would have already hung himself, and therefore there would be no need to trap him in a minor lie for "political currency" later. The currency would already have been there!

    In January 2019, in discussion regarding being kicked out of Mar-a-Lago, came the most impactful part to me. Epstein wrote, "Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop"

    That last sentence says everything. If Trump had partaken in the underage girls provided by Epstein, the statement would've been, "Of course he knew about the girls, he got with some of them himself!" Instead, it was, "Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop [with the procuring of underage girls for Epstein]."

    So again, this all points to Trump knowing about the pedo stuff, keeping quiet about it (to Epstein's pleasant surprise in 2011 and beyond), and at one point asking Maxwell to put a stop to the whole thing.



    Sorry, I know you were waiting for a bombshell which would show Trump diddling kids, but it's not happening. Now that this stuff has come out, perhaps Trump will authorize the full release of the files, and we will finally find out about the real criminals here on both sides of the aisle.

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    Note the Dems REDACTED the name in the story which was Virginia Giuffre. The same Virginia who denied Trump was ever involved in anything inappropriate.

    I wonder why the Dems left her name out? Of course we all know why.

    Because retards like the human garbage Sonatine would get excited in only a way he does with thinking about boys.

    Bottom line is there is a far better chance Sonatine is a Pedo than Trump.

    But we all knew that, didn’t we?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    This has been covered before- if Trump was guilty of anything with Epstein, they would have burned Trump under the Biden Administration between 2021 and 2025...it never happened because there was nothing there.

    The Dems tried everything and nothing worked-

    - The Russia Hoax.
    - "Grab them by the pussy" hot mic video.
    - "the documents and Mar-a-Logo raid.
    - The bogus 32 felonies in New York.
    - The Georgia arrest.
    - The whole January 6 insurrection, except there was no insurrection or they would have charged him with it.

    Nothing sticks to "Teflon Don".
    But Druff’s shame gets so excited about everyone of them.

    He truly falls for any hoax because deep down, he’s not just fat and broke, he’s dumb as fuck.

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    There's also the matter that desertrunner mentioned.

    Biden's DOJ had 4 years to release this stuff, and chose not to.

    If Trump were guilty of having sex with trafficked underage girls provided by Epstein, that's one of the few things which could have brought him down, and would have been worth the collateral damage to people like Bill Clinton.

    But they released nothing, which made me think that Trump's role in all of this was minor, and therefore NOT worth the collateral damage.

    Believe me, if Trump was touching teenage Virginia sexually during those "hours spent together at the house", we'd have heard about this years ago. If you look at the context of the rest of the statements at the time, the "hours spent together" didn't mean hours spent ALONE together, but rather Trump was at the house while Virginia was there, and may have talked to her (or witnessed things) and learned what was going on.

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    Isn't it sad that we don't have a media which can analyze this stuff in a fair, unbiased fashion, rather than run a constant hit campaign against Trump and the GOP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    wow you should totally tell that to literally every news site on earth, youd be a super big deal when they take you seriously.
    Fortunately I didn't read this on any kind of news site or editorial where it comes with a spin, as it seems you did.

    I read the emails myself and came up with my own interpretation, which should be obvious to anyone with an above-room-temperature IQ.

    They were emails from Epstein (and some from author Michael Wolff), discussing how Trump had knowledge of his operation, but hadn't yet said a word about it.

    "dog that hasn't barked" = "Person with knowledge of my crimes, who has kept his mouth shut"


    Most telling were the exchanges between Epstein and Wolff. In late 2015, when Trump was running for President and there was increased scrutiny upon him. Wolff brought up to Epstein that CNN was likely going to ask Trump about his association with him. Epstein asked Wolff for advice regarding "crafting an answer" for Trump -- presumably the idea to write something for Trump to say which makes neither man look bad. Wolff responded, advising Epstein to do nothing, and that they should "let Trump hang himself" (by lying about his true relationship with Epstein), which could give Epstein "political currency" later.

    Note that this answer already implies that Trump didn't do anything with the girls himself, hence the need to have Trump "hang himself" in the situation by lying about his relationship with Epstein. If Trump had molested underage girls provided by Epstein, he would have already hung himself, and therefore there would be no need to trap him in a minor lie for "political currency" later. The currency would already have been there!

    In January 2019, in discussion regarding being kicked out of Mar-a-Lago, came the most impactful part to me. Epstein wrote, "Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop"

    That last sentence says everything. If Trump had partaken in the underage girls provided by Epstein, the statement would've been, "Of course he knew about the girls, he got with some of them himself!" Instead, it was, "Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop [with the procuring of underage girls for Epstein]."

    So again, this all points to Trump knowing about the pedo stuff, keeping quiet about it (to Epstein's pleasant surprise in 2011 and beyond), and at one point asking Maxwell to put a stop to the whole thing.



    Sorry, I know you were waiting for a bombshell which would show Trump diddling kids, but it's not happening. Now that this stuff has come out, perhaps Trump will authorize the full release of the files, and we will finally find out about the real criminals here on both sides of the aisle.
    Desertrunner's cuckold is fine with Trump at best only knowing about the pedo stuff and doing nothing?

    This is considered some type of exoneration by Team Retard?
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    Protectors of the Pedos.

    Trump has been fighting the release of the Epstien/Trump files because he is totally innocent.

    I also appreciate the fact that team retard would have the same exact take if it was Biden that was best friends with and protector of the most prolific pedophile of our time.

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    Everyone knows Donald was and is dirty.

    “The girls” could mean just about any girls, Epstein always had models and whatnot.

    The whole dog who didn’t bark…no clue what that means.

    obviously both sides will see what they want in those emails….without the full context….the Dems will use this to win the house in 2026 and then try again to impeach the man…what else is new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    Protectors of the Pedos.

    Trump has been fighting the release of the Epstien/Trump files because he is totally innocent.

    I also appreciate the fact that team retard would have the same exact take if it was Biden that was best friends with and protector of the most prolific pedophile of our time.

    yeah thats the other thing, if there was a letter saying biden knew about the girls and that biden spent hours alone with a sex trafficking victim, he would have been sent to the wall.


    but the cult of retardia is so pot committed to everything being a vast conspiracy to tarnish the honor of their beloved game show host that when the evidence is right there in front of them, their own integrity is the first thing they throw on the fire to stay warm.


    meanwhile, zero denials from king retard himself. zero lawsuits. he took kimmel off the air for making a joke, but somehow this doesnt warrant a response?


    fascinating behavior.
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    bonus pedo:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Protectors of the Pedos.

    Trump has been fighting the release of the Epstien/Trump files because he is totally innocent.

    I also appreciate the fact that team retard would have the same exact take if it was Biden that was best friends with and protector of the most prolific pedophile of our time.

    yeah thats the other thing, if there was a letter saying biden knew about the girls and that biden spent hours alone with a sex trafficking victim, he would have been sent to the wall.


    but the cult of retardia is so pot committed to everything being a vast conspiracy to tarnish the honor of their beloved game show host that when the evidence is right there in front of them, their own integrity is the first thing they throw on the fire to stay warm.


    meanwhile, zero denials from king retard himself. zero lawsuits. he took kimmel off the air for making a joke, but somehow this doesnt warrant a response?


    fascinating behavior.

    Anyone who thought that Trump knew nothing, despite a years-long friendship with Epstein, was a moron.

    Everyone knew that Trump had SOME connection to all of it, but my theory was that it was a minor one (knowing about what was happening, and not reporting it or disassociating himself immediately), and this pretty much proves it.

    There is no rational explanation which fits otherwise, given these emails, unless you really bend it and ignore the obvious.

    We even see that he tried to talk Ghislaine into putting a stop to the whole thing! So he didn't just turn a blind eye.


    Again, I am not saying he was the good guy here. At minimum he should have immediately disassociated with Epstein, and truthfully he should've gone to the police, given the seriousness of the matter.

    But for the libs to claim this is "evidence" that Trump is a pedo, and to twist the "Trump was in the house for a few hours with Virginia" into meaning something else, is peak misleading leftist media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Note the Dems REDACTED the name in the story which was Virginia Giuffre. The same Virginia who denied Trump was ever involved in anything inappropriate.
    I have heard this exact same detail on some podcasts today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    There's also the matter that desertrunner mentioned.

    Biden's DOJ had 4 years to release this stuff, and chose not to.

    If Trump were guilty of having sex with trafficked underage girls provided by Epstein, that's one of the few things which could have brought him down, and would have been worth the collateral damage to people like Bill Clinton.

    But they released nothing, which made me think that Trump's role in all of this was minor, and therefore NOT worth the collateral damage.



    DD - pls let us know why then you believe Trump is going to these extraordinary efforts to prevent their release despite campaign promises from him and his VP, among many others?

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