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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    What’s funny is you don’t even realize you are doing the exact same thing you are accusing CNN of doing.

    “And since became left wing”. Where based on any of those quotes does it say he was left wing? “Not being fond of Trump or Kirk” doesn’t automatically make you left wing. There’s certainly a high correlation there, but there are plenty of non left wing people that fit that criteria as well.

    I mean statistically speaking odds are pretty high your views are going to be diametrically opposed to someone if you feel compelled to assassinate them, so from a pure odds standpoint it’s reasonable to assume in a case like this the person would be left wing. But yet also to be compelled to carry out an assassination attempt in the first place you have to be pretty fucked up in the head so all bets are off. And specific to this case we’ve not seen any clear cut evidence either way of motive. But yet both of our wonderful political parties are trying really hard to spin their preferred narrative. It’s so disgusting.
    I was commenting on CNN talking about "differing" opinions of his political attitudes, when in fact they were not differing. The only "differing" one goes back to his high school days, which is mildly interesting but irrelevant regarding how he feels today.

    Sure, he could be something other than left and hate Trump/Kirk. But it's pretty unlikely that he's any kind of conservative if he hates both Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk, as well as their general views. I do know some conservatives who legitimately dislike Trump, and maybe some of those people also wouldn't have liked Kirk, but it's unlikely they'd also hate all of their opinions unless they're actually not conservative at all.

    Sometimes killers of famous people are actually obsessed fans, rather than haters. I thought that was possible here (though far from the most likely explanation), but it wasn't automatic that the killer had to hate Kirk or his views. In fact, it could have just been someone who wanted to be famous, or cause an incident which the world talks about.

    But I think we have a pretty clear picture here, and it's of a kid who grew up in a conservative Christian family, was conservative himself during high school, and then went the complete other direction over the past 4 years. I put it at a tiny chance at this point that the guy was still conservative, but hated Trump, Kirk, and their values.

    The "groyper" angle is so bizarre. There is no evidence that he's a groyper, but as VaughP pointed out, they're trying very hard to push that narrative. After all, how vindicating would it be for the left if Kirk's killer was just an alt-right nutcase who hated Kirk for not being extreme enough for their his taste?

    It's absurd.

    I also laugh when I keep reading libs write, "He was from a conservative Christian family. It's pretty obvious he was on the right."

    What?? So there's no such thing as college-aged kids rebelling against their parents' conservative views?

    They say this dumb shit with confidence, as if they completely lack any form of common sense.
    But yet you’re admittingly doing the same thing. You say “they’re not differing” immediately followed by “the only differing”. You’re being just as intellectually dishonest as you are accusing CNN of. The worst part is the hypocrisy. Well, actually it’s the assassination (hat tip to Norm).

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    https://thegrayzone.substack.com/p/c...anyahu-funding

    Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.

    In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a “bully,” the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu noted that Kirk was murdered for speaking the truth and defending freedom. He posted on X that as a "lion-hearted friend of Israel," Kirk "Fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilization."

    Netanyahu added, "I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. We lost an incredible human being. His boundless pride in America and his valiant belief in free speech will leave a lasting impact. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk."



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    Quote Originally Posted by OK2 View Post
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu noted that Kirk was murdered for speaking the truth and defending freedom. He posted on X that as a "lion-hearted friend of Israel," Kirk "Fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilization."

    Netanyahu added, "I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. We lost an incredible human being. His boundless pride in America and his valiant belief in free speech will leave a lasting impact. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk."


    Judeo-Christian smh - there's no such thing. it's all made up to endear us to the chosen people.



    Origin and evolution of the term
    Early usage (19th century): The term first appeared in the 19th century, referring to Jewish converts to Christianity, not to a shared religious heritage.

    Response to fascism (1930s): The modern political concept of a "Judeo-Christian" tradition emerged in the U.S. in the 1930s. It was used by liberal Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish groups to forge a unified national identity against the rise of fascism and antisemitism in Europe.

    Cold War ideology (1940s–1950s): During the Cold War, the term became more widespread. It was used by political leaders like Dwight D. Eisenhower to contrast the religiously-based values of the U.S. with the "godless" ideology of Soviet communism.

    Modern conservative rhetoric (1970s–present): By the 1970s, the term was adopted by the American religious and political right. It is now often used to describe conservative political positions on issues like abortion and traditional family values that many American Jews do not support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu noted that Kirk was murdered for speaking the truth and defending freedom. He posted on X that as a "lion-hearted friend of Israel," Kirk "Fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilization."

    Netanyahu added, "I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. We lost an incredible human being. His boundless pride in America and his valiant belief in free speech will leave a lasting impact. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk."


    Judeo-Christian smh - there's no such thing. it's all made up to endear us to the chosen people.



    Origin and evolution of the term
    Early usage (19th century): The term first appeared in the 19th century, referring to Jewish converts to Christianity, not to a shared religious heritage.

    Response to fascism (1930s): The modern political concept of a "Judeo-Christian" tradition emerged in the U.S. in the 1930s. It was used by liberal Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish groups to forge a unified national identity against the rise of fascism and antisemitism in Europe.

    Cold War ideology (1940s–1950s): During the Cold War, the term became more widespread. It was used by political leaders like Dwight D. Eisenhower to contrast the religiously-based values of the U.S. with the "godless" ideology of Soviet communism.

    Modern conservative rhetoric (1970s–present): By the 1970s, the term was adopted by the American religious and political right. It is now often used to describe conservative political positions on issues like abortion and traditional family values that many American Jews do not support.

    Agree


    Some stuff from that substack

    Netanyahu first tweeted prayers for Kirk at 3:02 PM in the afternoon on September 10, minutes after news of the shooting broke. He has since authored three additional posts about Kirk, even breaking away from the Israeli war cabinet to spend the afternoon of September 11 memorializing the conservative leader on Fox News.

    Also interesting

    https://twitter.com/HatsOffff/status/1966072543800078457


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    Bloom accused Kirk of spreading the message “that Israel is the problem.” Her long, vapid, repetitious, excruciating and obviously AI-assisted rant basically screams “get back on the Zionist reservation, Charlie!” People with similar views, who make their living killing journalists, were probably adding—privately—“or else.” Since then, Mossad’s spying on Kirk’s private as well as public communications may have alerted them to, as they say, “a situation.” If Kirk were indeed moving toward an anti-Israel position echoing Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Green, Thomas Massie, and millions of their followers, the natural response of Mossad’s Journalist Assassination Bureau would have been: “Let’s hurry up and let our media make him a pro-Zionist martyr while such a thing is still possible.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    apparently the shooter isnt trans, which is nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
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    apparently the shooter isnt trans, which is nice
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    Hopefully Druff didn’t tear up his ticket.

     
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    No idea if this is true or not yet, but it is hard to believe that the FBI would have such information and that Kash Patel wouldn’t be blurting that out as soon as he heard it. Of course maybe the agents have learned to withhold such information from him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OK2 View Post
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    It's a weird thing to speculate on, but I think it's relevant - it's likely to be more accurate if he was portrayed with the roles reversed.

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    as Vaughn is pointing Tyler lived with a Tranny, i'm sure it was just for economic reasons to save a little money..
    this fucking "groyper" shit...?? what the fuck is this made up word BS...??!!! all you libtards trying to call him a groyper...
    from my understanding of the word (after doing some research)... this is not what a "groyper" would do... live with a Tranny...
    try harder libtard fagots tranny loving bitches with no testosterone in one of you blood cells... trying to call this kid a crazed conservative (groyper).... good grief...


     
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    are republican parents just completely incapable of raising healthy normal children?


    discuss, house retard.

     
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    The low IQ low human capital far right is trying to push a conspiracy theory Israel was behind Kirk getting killed (as you can see in this thread). Even Candace Owens, who toured with Charlie for 2 years and in theory is his close friend, hasn't even actually addressed the assassination at all except to push retarded conspiracy theories that Netanyahu, Israel and Joos are behind it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    are republican parents just completely incapable of raising healthy normal children?


    discuss, house retard.

    except druff. yung benj will always have a fast track to asst manager role at the arbys of his choice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    are republican parents just completely incapable of raising healthy normal children?


    discuss, house retard.
    Republicans actually statistically raise more mentally healthy children. Unfortunately they also teach their children how to use guns and make them very easy to access, so when a Republican's child goes off the rails, the results can get deadly very quick.

    You also have the reality that white people are generally higher IQ and more capable than minorities. So again, when the 22 year old white son of a Republican goes of the rails, the amount of mayhem they are capable of is magnitudes higher than if they were a low IQ black or hispanic Democrat.

    Of course white Democrats (especially Jews) are the highest IQ group. But in the US this group has been culturally pacified into harmlessness; although we can see in the Middle East what they are capable of against low IQ minorities when the are taken off the leash.

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    "groyper" another made up word from the looney left to try and "categorize" everyone just like the made up bs of lgbtq++axyzlogroyper, Latino X , what pronouns do you go by and should we call you... and all the other 1000's of categories the loons try to put you in or make you seem that you should be categorized in, seen a post i think it was from here, where the mom had made a post on FB or something basically bragging about the new computer setup they got Tyler and she said something like "got Tyler a new computer setup so he can really waste all his time away online" .... probably not the best parenting choice as to let their kid get groomed all day from the tranny Chan boards... especially from the House Tranny we have here.... then there was the video post of one of Tyler's old school friend where he had said Tyler spent way too much time online... so probably got indoctrinated from our very own house tranny and others like him on the tranny Chan boards....

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
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    I think a bit too much is being made about how great of a shot it was. People all over the country who grew up hunting can make that shot fairly easily.
    Yes. In East Texas one could assemble an army of 10-12 year olds all capable of hitting a small target at 200 yards - not an exaggeration.


    And it's strange how this guy seems very clearly like a gay weirdo just from the blurry pics the FBI released.

    Gay weirdo confirmed - not that it was a mystery, but even in blurry pics with the patriot shirt as misdirection, physiognomy never lies. There has to be a decent chance he himself was an aspiring troon. If one looks at the real videos and pics of him, he's a skinny fat, Marfan syndrome looking loser with hips wider than most women his age.

     
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