Regarding Boz and sonatine

[BCR]

also this isnt even true, i literally fed his posts into the most powerful AI on the planet that was trained on the literal entirety of psychology guidelines and _it_ pegged him as a pedo.


here look:





anyway im glad we got that cleared up.

LOL the more defensive you get, the more obvious it is that there is something there. Please keep posting your AI walls of text, they are only helping to prove my point.

Aren’t you the horrible faggot who showed up here just to beg to play a freeroll and then proceeded to stall the entire time? Like it’s possibly the biggest faggot thing I’ve ever seen here. Go the fuck away you piece of shit freeroll staller. Imagine what a fucking brokedick loser begs to be in a charity freeroll and then stalls every hand ruining the whole thing. You should shoot yourself in the neck and bleed out

[420powersme]

I love how mad that made you! LOL @ you BCR. Please tell us all how you really feel

[BCR]

I love how mad that made you! LOL @ you BCR. Please tell us all how you really feel

I think you begged like a little bitch freeroll chaser, Druff was nice enough to let you in despite having a username 420 that stopped being funny or clever somewhere around the late 90s, and you promptly ruined it for every person playing. That tells me everything I need to know about how poor and pathetic you are. Most of us have never even collected any winnings when we win. You are a parasite and very very poor.

[country978]

I love how mad that made you! LOL @ you BCR. Please tell us all how you really feel

I think you begged like a little bitch freeroll chaser, Druff was nice enough to let you in despite having a username 420 that stopped being funny or clever somewhere around the late 90s, and you promptly ruined it for every person playing. That tells me everything I need to know about how poor and pathetic you are. Most of us have never even collected any winnings when we win. You are a parasite and very very poor.

BCR is correct here. 420 should shoot himself in the neck and die. There is no legitimate excuse for what he did to that free roll and the only reasonable outcome is that he should off himself. Good job, BCR for being the voice of reason and accountability.

[Sanlmar]

LOL the more defensive you get, the more obvious it is that there is something there. Please keep posting your AI walls of text, they are only helping to prove my point.

Aren’t you the horrible faggot who showed up here just to beg to play a freeroll and then proceeded to stall the entire time? Like it’s possibly the biggest faggot thing I’ve ever seen here. Go the fuck away you piece of shit freeroll staller. Imagine what a fucking brokedick loser begs to be in a charity freeroll and then stalls every hand ruining the whole thing. You should shoot yourself in the neck and bleed out

Was this the historic last PFA freeroll ever held?

[The Boz]

Imagine a bunch of guys who claim to be top poker players complaining some guy “ruined” a fucking $50 freeroll. Shouldn’t you guys be playing for real money somewhere instead? I actually like some of you guys but you come off as little bitches for continuing to complain about this one game.

I know, it’s “tradition”, the same reason Druff uses to justify the pathetic chili eating fat fuck being permitted to spread his incorrect nonsense daily.

Looks like he was WRONG again about the Kirk shooting being involved with Tranny nonsense since he was fucking one.

[desertrunner]

Going to have to explain this again for the 7th time here- The whole Sonatine pedo reference. For years, Sonatine has a confirmed online behavior of appearing obsessive and following around a complete stranger (to him) on this board. Its OK to maybe do it once or twice, but to be that obsessive, determined and not stop for years is obvious known pedo-like behavior.

The second layer is the constant bogus IA conclusions he feeds into a program and gets the results he wants to post here. All that does is reinforce what I just wrote above about the un-welcomed compulsive obsessive behavior seen here towards a complete stranger.

The third layer is that Druff knows about all of this, hears the complaints, yet awards the bad behavior here with BS justifications. "Well its OK that he acts like a pedo here because he is woven into the PFA fabric by being here a long time....yada...yada...." Meanwhile, all Pedotine is doing here is ruining the PFA experience and tarnishing Druff's good name in poker. As Druff said here before, he had to block out the N work because some random reader came up and complainted to him about it. That leads me to believe other non-posters read this forum and make conclusions based on the garbage Sonatine posts here. Example- if you go to the "Women that Fish" thread, you will see that Pedotine posted unwelcomed and distasteful graphic pictures of nude black men and women in the thread. Druff may have removed them by now, but Sonatine/Pedotine absolutely did this.

Now just watch, Sonatine will follow up this post with some non-relative immature BS crap to discredit me and thats fine. But it does again tarnish the PFA brand and experience while crapping on Druff's poker rep. I know this because I see what other people have written about Druff on other websites and its upsetting to read.

There is an old saying out there- "Youre known by the company you keep". When Druff keeps embracing the garbage members here and disciplining the good ones, like it or not, it sends a message or character image. If I was Druff, I would definitely distance myself from the obvious social losers in here that are hell bent on tarnishing my online image. He can and will make excuses on this and justify it away, but the obvious is clear. Lastly, Druff is not good at taking cirticizm, but this is one of those times where he should listen and make changes. All the justification and excuses in the world doesnt change what I read about him and PFA at other sites.

Lastly- Sonatine is PFA's Joe Biden and Druff seems so determined to keep him in office regardless of all of the obvious mistakes and blunders being made. Druff just cant see anything wrong with keeping Sonatine/Binden on-board, but the rest of us actually do.

[The Boz]

DR, while I agree with you 100%, it’s not our job to look out for Druff, he’s a big boy.

He knows first hand the shit this forum brings him and still keeps it going. Which I appreciate and I’m sure you do as well, even with the BS limiting he did on you.

Of course Sonatine is a negative for him but at what point is it on Druff and not TPCEFF, since Druff allows it for some silly DEI reasoning? Face it, as long as he’s alive and this place is here he’s going to be allowed to spew his lies and other nonsense. But take comfort in knowing from everything we understand, it’s really about all he has in his pathetic life.

[Jayjami]

Druff- More and more members are tired of Sonatine aka Pedotine in this forum. He ruins most threads with BS including the bogus IA evals. Members keep telling and complaining to you and it gets ignore. Sonatine is ruining the PFA experience every week and eroding your good name in poker.

I dont know why you keep defending and covering for this guy and keep using the old "been here a long time" excuse. Sonatine is like Joe Biden- also been here a long time a a constant problem.

I see the issue is this- This place is like Mexico, there are no real rule and admin plays favorites and looks the other way when something happens.

Why dont you just try an experiment and ban Pedotine for a month and see how this board operates. Because his shit is wearing on most of us and its getting beyond old.

If most members of the forum were polled as to who was deriving the most benefit from "Druff favoritism", the winner wouldn't be sonatine... it would be you!

sonatine is a fixture here and brings overall quality content to the site. The only way I would ban him is if he were to blatantly disregard the rules here and refuse to stop when asked.

'tine has done more than his fair share of shit posting here, but he's a made man and entitled to a bit of leeway.

[Tellafriend]

Meanwhile, all Pedotine is doing here is ruining the PFA experience and tarnishing Druff's good name in poker.


appears it is time for me to fire this thread up again:


mickeycrimm vs. desertrunner


https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...s-desertrunner

[desertrunner]

DR, while I agree with you 100%, it’s not our job to look out for Druff, he’s a big boy.

I agree. But sometimes when we make presentations, we have to include ALL of the cards to hook them. Druff is also an intelligent guy that thinks most of us are dumb, so us dummies need to present all of the facts to get them to see the whole picture.

He knows first hand the shit this forum brings him and still keeps it going. Which I appreciate and I’m sure you do as well, even with the BS limiting he did on you.

I agree, but the board does need some moderation and house cleaning.

Of course Sonatine is a negative for him but at what point is it on Druff and not TPCEFF, since Druff allows it for some silly DEI reasoning? Face it, as long as he’s alive and this place is here he’s going to be allowed to spew his lies and other nonsense. But take comfort in knowing from everything we understand, it’s really about all he has in his pathetic life.

Agree. I do need to stress that Druff does still care about his online reputation, but for some reason, lets this one long time cancer hurt PFA and his own professional image.

[Dan Druff]

Agree. I do need to stress that Druff does still care about his online reputation, but for some reason, lets this one long time cancer hurt PFA and his own professional image.

You keep talking about my reputation and professional image, but the absolute #1 complaint I hear about PFA at the WSOP and other live poker experiences is that I allow "racism and other bigoted content".

I have countered to these people that I never post any such content myself, and that my forum is open to the public to express a wide variety of views, many of which I don't like and don't agree. This doesn't pacify them, and they continue dressing me down that it's my forum and I don't need to allow stuff like that.

I actually have toned down what is allowed here for that reason, because it's true that at the end of the day, I am the sole owner and moderator, and the posts here can have a reflection upon me, even if I didn't make them or support them. It's always been a fine line between free speech and potential damage to my reputation, when it comes to moderating PFA.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because nobody has ever complained to me that sonatine's shitposting is offending them. The complaints have all been about racist/homophobic type content, and a lot of what you've posted would be considered that way by many people, regardless of how you mean it.

In short, if I banned sonatine or deleted all of his posts, it would have zero effect on my reputation in poker.

If I banned you or deleted all of your posts, it would reduce the amount of flak I get from some people in live poker settings regarding what I allow here.

That's the honest truth.

[desertrunner]

You keep talking about my reputation and professional image..."

I read what I read online and again, it upsets me.

...but the absolute #1 complaint I hear about PFA at the WSOP and other live poker experiences is that I allow "racism and other bigoted content".

Good call. You should look closer at Sonatine who posts nude black men on here and more recently BCR who called me a "sand nig-er" after I posted here that I have an Arab background. You should start looking at all of the posts by the resident liberals that constantly attacks the "good members" here with the constant liberal insults of autism, "faggot", etc. Those are the problem people we constantly see here and complain about. This is why Snowtracks, Dwai and FPSJesus left the forum.

I actually have toned down what is allowed here for that reason, because it's true that at the end of the day, I am the sole owner and moderator, and the posts here can have a reflection upon me, even if I didn't make them or support them. It's always been a fine line between free speech and potential damage to my reputation, when it comes to moderating PFA.

Unfortunately, you only moderate a handful of members here and the others get to break the rules.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because nobody has ever complained to me that sonatine's shitposting is offending them. The complaints have all been about racist/homophobic type content, and a lot of what you've posted would be considered that way by many people, regardless of how you mean it.

Lets break that down-

"racist"- The resident liberals here use the national tactic on PFA- Any disagreeable topic that includes race is "racist" if you dont agree with them.

Druff- Your buying into the old tactic of "because I said so" by them. Just because the resident libtards here claim "racism", does not mean its actually true. Me- I'm very careful what I post here on race and its always within normal acceptable standards. My main point here has always been- I do not believe blacks are victims, repressed or deserve reparations.The Twitter/X videos I post here show the national pulse of what is current in the black community. And those posts have never been removed as they are legit and tasteful. So YES, I do use my Freedom of Speech and Expression here on the topic, but its never been outside of the allowable limits and you know this. The only person to go full ballistic here on racism was Brutal Thinker and another member shut him down.

"homophobic"- The board allows people here to use the popular "Later Fag" graphic of a baby being thrown out of a building window. I purposely newer use this board supplied graphic as its just not my style. Any other "homophobic" posts or material by me- I just dont think there has been any. If so, we would have heard about it.

This was just posted on PFA today and did you do any thing??

Practice what you preach, victim retard. Its one thing to repeatedly disrespect your real life friend, but to then repeatedly cry and pout puts you firmly in the top tier of retarded faggots of all time.

This happens every week on this website...

In short, if I banned sonatine or deleted all of his posts, it would have zero effect on my reputation in poker.

Based on....what?? Based on here is woven into the fabric here- hes only been here a few months longer than me. Based on some bogus seniority list here?

I also disagree....You have multiple good members here telling you they are sick tired of his rBS outine here. I think that would reflect accurately onto the real WSOP world. Most real life poker pros do not want to see naked black men or fat naked black women here along with the more recent annoying enlarged bogus IA profile summaries. I am sure the real life poker players find the bogus IA spam shots here annoying and the constant liberal attacks and name calling. I am sure my posts about flashlights, cars, hamburgers and women fishing arent hurting the real life WSOP guys viewing here.

If I banned you or deleted all of your posts, it would reduce the amount of flak I get from some people in live poker settings regarding what I allow here.

I find that hard to believe and think youre just throwing that on here to shift the conversation. I do believe you have a few liberal minded players approaching you, but I question if they are actually saying- "You know that desert runner, he sure upsets me...:" I just dont find that believable. All of my posts here are pretty mellow and within normal guide lines and the posted 2016 rules.

[sonatine]

I read what I read online and again, it upsets me.

...but the absolute #1 complaint I hear about PFA at the WSOP and other live poker experiences is that I allow "racism and other bigoted content".

Good call. You should look closer at Sonatine who posts nude black men on here and more recently BCR who called me a "sand nig-er" after I posted here that I have an Arab background. You should start looking at all of the posts by the resident liberals that constantly attacks the "good members" here with the constant liberal insults of autism, "faggot", etc. Those are the problem people we constantly see here and complain about. This is why Snowtracks, Dwai and FPSJesus left the forum.

I actually have toned down what is allowed here for that reason, because it's true that at the end of the day, I am the sole owner and moderator, and the posts here can have a reflection upon me, even if I didn't make them or support them. It's always been a fine line between free speech and potential damage to my reputation, when it comes to moderating PFA.

Unfortunately, you only moderate a handful of members here and the others get to break the rules.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because nobody has ever complained to me that sonatine's shitposting is offending them. The complaints have all been about racist/homophobic type content, and a lot of what you've posted would be considered that way by many people, regardless of how you mean it.

Lets break that down-

"racist"- The resident liberals here use the national tactic on PFA as well- Any topic that includes race is r"acist" if you dont agree with them. Druff- Your buying into the old tactic of "because I said so" by them. Just because the resident libtards here claim "racism", does not mean its true. Me- I'm very careful what I post here on race and its always within normal acceptable standards. My main point here has always been- I do not believe blacks are victims, repressed or deserve reparations.The X videos I post also the national pulse of what is current in the black community. And those posts have never been removed as they are legit and tasteful. So YES, I do use my Freedom of Speech and Expression here on the topic, but its never been outside of the allowable limits and you know this.

"homophobic"- The board allows people here to use the "Later Fag" graphic of a baby being thrown out of a building window. I purposely newer use this board supplied graphic as its just not for me. Any other "homophobic" posts or material by me, I just dont think there has been much.

In short, if I banned sonatine or deleted all of his posts, it would have zero effect on my reputation in poker.

Based on....? I also disagree. You have multiple good members here telling you they are tired of his routine here. I think that would reflect accurately onto the real world. Most real life poker pros do not want to see naked black men or fat naked black women here along with the more recent annoying enlarged bogus IA profile summaries.

If I banned you or deleted all of your posts, it would reduce the amount of flak I get from some people in live poker settings regarding what I allow here.

I find that hard to believe and think youre just throwing that on here to shift the conversation. I do believe you have a few liberal minded players approaching you, but I question if they are actually saying- "You know that desert runner, he sure upsets me...:" I just dont find that believable. All of my posts here are pretty mellow and within normal guide lines and the posted 2016 rules.

is it sinking in that hes a crazy person yet druff?

[desertrunner]

is it sinking in that hes a crazy person yet druff?

See what the liberals do- every time you beat them with facts, critical thinking or evidence, they always resort back to insults.

[gut]

is it sinking in that hes a crazy person yet druff?

See what the liberals do- every time you beat them with facts, critical thinking or evidence, they always resort back to insults.

Is there a reason you only post nig shit in the end of times thread?

Secretly wanting that giant black firehose pouring onto your face?

Ask Mickey how that ends up....

[Sloppy Joe]

I read what I read online and again, it upsets me.


Good call. You should look closer at Sonatine who posts nude black men on here and more recently BCR who called me a "sand nig-er" after I posted here that I have an Arab background. You should start looking at all of the posts by the resident liberals that constantly attacks the "good members" here with the constant liberal insults of autism, "faggot", etc. Those are the problem people we constantly see here and complain about. This is why Snowtracks, Dwai and FPSJesus left the forum.

I actually have toned down what is allowed here for that reason, because it's true that at the end of the day, I am the sole owner and moderator, and the posts here can have a reflection upon me, even if I didn't make them or support them. It's always been a fine line between free speech and potential damage to my reputation, when it comes to moderating PFA.

Unfortunately, you only moderate a handful of members here and the others get to break the rules.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because nobody has ever complained to me that sonatine's shitposting is offending them. The complaints have all been about racist/homophobic type content, and a lot of what you've posted would be considered that way by many people, regardless of how you mean it.

Lets break that down-

"racist"- The resident liberals here use the national tactic on PFA as well- Any topic that includes race is r"acist" if you dont agree with them. Druff- Your buying into the old tactic of "because I said so" by them. Just because the resident libtards here claim "racism", does not mean its true. Me- I'm very careful what I post here on race and its always within normal acceptable standards. My main point here has always been- I do not believe blacks are victims, repressed or deserve reparations.The X videos I post also the national pulse of what is current in the black community. And those posts have never been removed as they are legit and tasteful. So YES, I do use my Freedom of Speech and Expression here on the topic, but its never been outside of the allowable limits and you know this.

"homophobic"- The board allows people here to use the "Later Fag" graphic of a baby being thrown out of a building window. I purposely newer use this board supplied graphic as its just not for me. Any other "homophobic" posts or material by me, I just dont think there has been much.

In short, if I banned sonatine or deleted all of his posts, it would have zero effect on my reputation in poker.

Based on....? I also disagree. You have multiple good members here telling you they are tired of his routine here. I think that would reflect accurately onto the real world. Most real life poker pros do not want to see naked black men or fat naked black women here along with the more recent annoying enlarged bogus IA profile summaries.

If I banned you or deleted all of your posts, it would reduce the amount of flak I get from some people in live poker settings regarding what I allow here.

I find that hard to believe and think youre just throwing that on here to shift the conversation. I do believe you have a few liberal minded players approaching you, but I question if they are actually saying- "You know that desert runner, he sure upsets me...:" I just dont find that believable. All of my posts here are pretty mellow and within normal guide lines and the posted 2016 rules.

is it sinking in that hes a crazy person yet druff?

Time for druff to get the shock collar back on retard, easier to train a dog than get your real life friend to show you respect.

I know its 'different strokes, different folks' but getting repeatedly cucked by your staggeringly retarded friend is a humiliation fetish I cant quite put my finger on.

[Dan Druff]

Nobody has approached me at WSOP and specifically mentioned desertrunner. That part is true.

However, they have described the types of posts that upset them here, and it's mostly the race-related ones, and occasionally the ones related to gay/trans stuff.

desertrunner, you can say over and over that you're trying to help my reputation by suggesting I remove sonatine and others, but I'm giving you reality regarding what these people find objectionable.

Keep in mind that much of these complaints were from before you were active on the forum, so I'm not even blaming you. I'm just saying that if I removed the type of thread you often post (and not just from you, but from everyone), I'd stop getting complaints about the "bigoted" content here. Nobody cares about pictures of naked black men or other shock stuff. It's the rants against blacks, gays, trans, etc which some people find problematic.

Again, I don't just back down and delete this stuff due to these complaints. I usually push back and tell them that this is a mostly free speech forum, and that I rarely censor things, even allowing insults against me personally. I remind them that I'm not the one posting the content they find offensive.

I'm just trying to tell you that I take a lot of shit for allowing as much as I do here, which is why it's so frustrating to hear that your suggestions would "protect" my reputation. I'm being honest regarding the type of complaints I get, and those complaints much more mirror the type of stuff you post, rather than anything posted by sonatine/BCR/whoever.

[desertrunner]

Is there a reason you only post nig shit in the end of times thread?

Are you sure about that?

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...=1#post1168972

[desertrunner]

However, they have described the types of posts that upset them here, and it's mostly the race-related ones, and occasionally the ones related to gay/trans stuff.

I doubt its my posts, they are pretty normal and not extreme.

desertrunner, you can say over and over that you're trying to help my reputation by suggesting I remove sonatine and others, but I'm giving you reality regarding what these people find objectionable.

I have absolutely never said "I am trying to help your reputation." I have said- these retards tarnish your poker reputation and the N word complaint at a WSOP was a good example.

Keep in mind that much of these complaints were from before you were active on the forum, so I'm not even blaming you.

So they were from 2012 and before, ok, makes sense.

I'm just saying that if I removed the type of thread you often post (and not just from you, but from everyone), I'd stop getting complaints about the "bigoted" content here. Nobody cares about pictures of naked black men or other shock stuff. It's the rants against blacks, gays, trans, etc which some people find problematic.

Well I am glad I do NOT post "rants against blacks, gays, trans" on here. But I have posted normal and calm opinions on those topics and actually repeated my opinions very times here. On other member did post the term "nig shit" in this thread earlier and it was not me.

Again, just so we are very clear, I have NOT posted any "rants against blacks, gays, trans", I do have my opinions on those topics and posted them here accordingly with the posted forums rules. I see that Druff is quietly trying to suggest for a second time that I am the one making these obnoxious posts that are being complained on and I need to point out that its not the case. NO Druff, they are NOT complaining about me, I do not even post the "LATER FAG" graphic on this board. I get the polite accusing of my posting, but its not me they are talking about.

Again, I don't just back down and delete this stuff due to these complaints. I usually push back and tell them that this is a mostly free speech forum, and that I rarely censor things, even allowing insults against me personally. I remind them that I'm not the one posting the content they find offensive.

Good, thank you.

I'm just trying to tell you that I take a lot of shit for allowing as much as I do here, which is why it's so frustrating to hear that your suggestions would "protect" my reputation. I'm being honest regarding the type of complaints I get, and those complaints much more mirror the type of stuff you post, rather than anything posted by sonatine/BCR/whoever.

Your reputation is your business, my personal opinion is that the resident retards here tarnish your reputation and the proof is the N words removal, which had nothing to do with me.

And again, most of the complaints you get are from the resident liberals here. They get mad, triggered and run to you and complain and then you feel obligated to take action. But then again, you let the 3 main problem people here continue causing problems even as more of the good members (Boz) bring it to your attention.

All good, carry on.