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    Regarding Boz and sonatine

    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Sonatine cried to Druff, and maybe sucked him off so I’m banned from that thread but….

    This is getting frustrating.

    Boz, I like you, and when you suggested earlier this year that we meet up in Vegas, I would have totally done it if I were there at the same time as you. So this is nothing against you at all.

    However, recently you've gotten very irritating with the ruining of threads with low-quality trolling of sonatine. Note that I am not protecting sonatine at all. He is antagonistic to a number of users here (sometimes even me), and it's definitely fair that he receives some insults/trolling in return. However, there's a time and place for it. I don't like when serious threads are cluttered because you see him posting and decide it's time to drop non-sequitur insults on him.

    In the thread where I banned you, I deleted like 4 posts where you were doing this, and asked you to stop. You then proceeded to do it twice more the same day. It was at that point when you were banned.

    FYI, sonatine did not complain to me at all. In fact, he hasn't complained to me about you ever, nor has he ever asked me to remove posts trolling him. This was all done on my own.

    Here are my feelings regarding sonatine:

    1) He is an intelligent guy and a longtime major poster in this community, dating back to 2007 or so. Most members here enjoy his presence, though I'll concede that some people here hate him.

    2) He and I are not friends, and never have been. In fact, as I'm sure you've seen, he will sometimes insult me and this site. I don't have any feelings of favoritism towards him, aside from showing respect for being a longtime member who has contributed a lot of content to the community.

    3) He generally stays on topic. Sometimes his posts will be provocative or satirical, but he usually sticks to the subject being discussed. That's important for the flow of these threads, and the readability of the site.

    4) One thing that did bother me about him was when he would sometimes clutter threads with spam when he didn't like the thread or didn't like the poster. Not only did I delete that stuff when I saw it, but I also warned him to stop. To his credit, he doesn't really do much of this anymore.

    5) He brings a lot of good threads/topics to the site. Sometimes it's political shitposting, but a good percentage of the topics he brings here I find interesting, even sometimes the left-wing political ones.


    I don't care that he's left wing. I don't want a right wing echo chamber here. I like the fact that there are members on the left, center, and right who post here, so we get a wide range of viewpoints. That's the same reason I never joined Truth Social or any of the other right-wing echo chamber social media sites. That's also why I'm not active in any right-wing Facebook groups. I have always wanted diverse points of view around me.

    The bottom line is that sonatine is a long-established, active member of the forum, and his overall contributions are much appreciated, even if sometimes he's a dick and can be rude to me. At the same time, I understand that he's not a sweet angel here, and I have no issue with you or others insulting/trolling him. Just don't do it in a fashion where it disrupts or ruin threads.

    Thank you.

     
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    Druff- More and more members are tired of Sonatine aka Pedotine in this forum. He ruins most threads with BS including the bogus IA evals. Members keep telling and complaining to you and it gets ignore. Sonatine is ruining the PFA experience every week and eroding your good name in poker.

    I dont know why you keep defending and covering for this guy and keep using the old "been here a long time" excuse. Sonatine is like Joe Biden- also been here a long time a a constant problem.

    I see the issue is this- This place is like Mexico, there are no real rule and admin plays favorites and looks the other way when something happens.

    Why dont you just try an experiment and ban Pedotine for a month and see how this board operates. Because his shit is wearing on most of us and its getting beyond old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Druff- More and more members are tired of Sonatine aka Pedotine in this forum. He ruins most threads with BS including the bogus IA evals. Members keep telling and complaining to you and it gets ignore. Sonatine is ruining the PFA experience every week and eroding your good name in poker.

    I dont know why you keep defending and covering for this guy and keep using the old "been here a long time" excuse. Sonatine is like Joe Biden- also been here a long time a a constant problem.

    I see the issue is this- This place is like Mexico, there are no real rule and admin plays favorites and looks the other way when something happens.

    Why dont you just try an experiment and ban Pedotine for a month and see how this board operates. Because his shit is wearing on most of us and its getting beyond old.
    If most members of the forum were polled as to who was deriving the most benefit from "Druff favoritism", the winner wouldn't be sonatine... it would be you!

    sonatine is a fixture here and brings overall quality content to the site. The only way I would ban him is if he were to blatantly disregard the rules here and refuse to stop when asked.

     
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    This is fair, I’ll admit anger Wednesday with the shooting got the best of me and I ignored your warnings and kept posting in the thread calling out the pathetic chili eating fat fuck.

    I actually agree with your moderation overall other than the limiting of DR. Those who don’t like him can easily block him and yes, I could do the same with TPCEFF. You put up with a lot of unneeded shit with your free speech views.

    But unlike DR, I don’t want him banned, and I know you won’t. Letting him continue to post allows us to laugh at how pathetic he, or the sick character he is portraying, truly is.

    By the way Buehler has given up 1 through 4.

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    surely this time they will listen to you. they were probably just distracted the other 14 times and definitely arent mentally defective people incapable of emotional regulation.

     
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      Ryback_feed_me_more: Just gonna say it fuck off Jason. Must piss you off BTC remains viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If most members of the forum were polled as to who was deriving the most benefit from "Druff favoritism", the winner wouldn't be sonatine... it would be you!
    Yes, I have seen the same 3/4 liberal nut jobs in here say the same thing. Again, we have have remember the basic internet rule- "because I say so" is not the law of absolute truth. Actually, Pedotine does get more favoritism in here as he has-

    1. Never been banned.
    2. Never had a post restriction.
    3. You let him violate the rules and spam IA readings in here weekly.


    sonatine is a fixture here and brings overall quality content to the site. The only way I would ban him is if he were to blatantly disregard the rules here and refuse to stop when asked.
    There you go again, treating him like a long time union member- Well, he has seniority here, so he cant do anything wrong. Much like Joe Biden and the illegal aliens, you keep turning a blind eye and the bad behavior keeps getting worse.

     
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      The Boz: With you on this, seniority is a crutch used by the weak, and in this case by a pathetic chili eating fat fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    surely this time they will listen to you. they were probably just distracted the other 14 times and definitely arent mentally defective people incapable of emotional regulation.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    This is fair, I’ll admit anger Wednesday with the shooting got the best of me and I ignored your warnings and kept posting in the thread calling out the pathetic chili eating fat fuck.

    I actually agree with your moderation overall other than the limiting of DR. Those who don’t like him can easily block him and yes, I could do the same with TPCEFF. You put up with a lot of unneeded shit with your free speech views.

    But unlike DR, I don’t want him banned, and I know you won’t. Letting him continue to post allows us to laugh at how pathetic he, or the sick character he is portraying, truly is.

    By the way Buehler has given up 1 through 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    surely this time they will listen to you. they were probably just distracted the other 14 times and definitely arent mentally defective people incapable of emotional regulation.
    Just a simple FUCK YOU!

     
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    I enjoy unfettered chili talk. Ty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Druff- More and more members are tired of Sonatine aka Pedotine in this forum. He ruins most threads with BS including the bogus IA evals. Members keep telling and complaining to you and it gets ignore. Sonatine is ruining the PFA experience every week and eroding your good name in poker.

    I dont know why you keep defending and covering for this guy and keep using the old "been here a long time" excuse. Sonatine is like Joe Biden- also been here a long time a a constant problem.

    I see the issue is this- This place is like Mexico, there are no real rule and admin plays favorites and looks the other way when something happens.

    Why dont you just try an experiment and ban Pedotine for a month and see how this board operates. Because his shit is wearing on most of us and its getting beyond old.


    yet, you are the one currently serving under a post restriction.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    yet, you are the one currently serving under a post restriction.
    YES, I am so proud of you- you actually picked up on the point being made. Most people pick up on the obvious and note it in their head, but you...you made a post about it. Good job on picking up on the secret message I put in my post. Just for that, you get a gold star...


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    yet, you are the one currently serving under a post restriction.
    YES, I am so proud of you- you actually picked up on the point being made. Most people pick up on the obvious and note it in their head, but you...you made a post about it. Good job on picking up on the secret message I put in my post. Just for that, you get a gold star...



    wow druff ban this anti-semite for making light of the holocaust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    wow druff ban this anti-semite for making light of the holocaust.
    You obviously never received a gold star in school, because you are a pedo.

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    I have no dog in this race, but Sonatine seems to have an obsession with accusing others of pedophilia. Historically speaking, those who are loudly accusing others of that, are usually pedophiles themselves. It would not surprise me if the same was true in Sonatine's case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 420powersme View Post
    I have no dog in this race, but Sonatine seems to have an obsession with accusing others of pedophilia. Historically speaking, those who are loudly accusing others of that, are usually pedophiles themselves. It would not surprise me if the same was true in Sonatine's case.

    can you show me some examples of this? there is exactly one person i can recall accusing of being a pedophile and its desertrunner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 420powersme View Post
    I have no dog in this race, but Sonatine seems to have an obsession with accusing others of pedophilia. Historically speaking, those who are loudly accusing others of that, are usually pedophiles themselves. It would not surprise me if the same was true in Sonatine's case.
    Sonatine has some deep, dark secrets

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Druff- More and more members are tired of Sonatine aka Pedotine in this forum. He ruins most threads with BS including the bogus IA evals. Members keep telling and complaining to you and it gets ignore. Sonatine is ruining the PFA experience every week and eroding your good name in poker.

    I dont know why you keep defending and covering for this guy and keep using the old "been here a long time" excuse. Sonatine is like Joe Biden- also been here a long time a a constant problem.

    I see the issue is this- This place is like Mexico, there are no real rule and admin plays favorites and looks the other way when something happens.

    Why dont you just try an experiment and ban Pedotine for a month and see how this board operates. Because his shit is wearing on most of us and its getting beyond old.
    Jesus fucking christ stop. "Us" would rather have Sonatine here more than boz or yourself combined. Like not even close.

    This is well known but people got tired ofposting vs Druffs team of shitposters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 420powersme View Post
    I have no dog in this race, but Sonatine seems to have an obsession with accusing others of pedophilia. Historically speaking, those who are loudly accusing others of that, are usually pedophiles themselves. It would not surprise me if the same was true in Sonatine's case.

    can you show me some examples of this? there is exactly one person i can recall accusing of being a pedophile and its desertrunner.

    also this isnt even true, i literally fed his posts into the most powerful AI on the planet that was trained on the literal entirety of psychology guidelines and _it_ pegged him as a pedo.


    here look:

    Name:  desertrunner projection.png
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    Name:  desertrunner pedo.png
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    anyway im glad we got that cleared up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 420powersme View Post
    I have no dog in this race, but Sonatine seems to have an obsession with accusing others of pedophilia. Historically speaking, those who are loudly accusing others of that, are usually pedophiles themselves. It would not surprise me if the same was true in Sonatine's case.

    can you show me some examples of this? there is exactly one person i can recall accusing of being a pedophile and its desertrunner.
    Tine wrote pedophillic fantasies.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    can you show me some examples of this? there is exactly one person i can recall accusing of being a pedophile and its desertrunner.

    also this isnt even true, i literally fed his posts into the most powerful AI on the planet that was trained on the literal entirety of psychology guidelines and _it_ pegged him as a pedo.


    here look:

    Name:  desertrunner projection.png
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    Name:  desertrunner pedo.png
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    anyway im glad we got that cleared up.
    LOL the more defensive you get, the more obvious it is that there is something there. Please keep posting your AI walls of text, they are only helping to prove my point.

     
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      desertrunner: SPOT ON, nailed it.

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