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    if patel is still head of the fbi by tomorrow night, ill genuinely be shocked. there is simply no way a competent professional wouldnt have a suspect in custody by now.
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    This was so Kirk though. He probably did an Israel is great show next.

    My gut reaction to his shooting was I’m shocked someone found him relevant enough to shoot. Like he was well past his cultural zenith. He was over 30 now and was just the weird dude on campuses.

    Whatever strong positions or ideas he ever had, he’d immediately backtrack on the next day. Like he was outraged at the Epstein is a hoax story and bombing Iran for exactly a day and then immediately brought back under heel. He was a company man. Lot of used car salesmen Matt Gaetz vibes, but more moral than Gaetz. But greasy opportunist in the same vein. He was a big stop the steal guy while I found it hard to believe he was ever that dumb to truly believe it. Staying on the MAGA gravy train seemed his only real passion.

    I wasn’t happy, I wasn’t sad for anything beyond his kids because he’s no loss to the world like most of us, but in general, why this dude was my only strong opinion? He’s more important in death than he ever was alive. Poor mistake to kill him on that front if you really hated him that much. Someone made a martyr of a milquetoast C student type.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    This was so Kirk though. He probably did an Israel is great show next.

    My gut reaction to his shooting was I’m shocked someone found him relevant enough to shoot. Like he was well past his cultural zenith. He was over 30 now and was just the weird dude on campuses.

    Whatever strong positions or ideas he ever had, he’d immediately backtrack on the next day. Like he was outraged at the Epstein is a hoax story and bombing Iran for exactly a day and then immediately brought back under heel. He was a company man. Lot of used car salesmen Matt Gaetz vibes, but more moral than Gaetz. But greasy opportunist in the same vein. He was a big stop the steal guy while I found it hard to believe he was ever that dumb to truly believe it. Staying on the MAGA gravy train seemed his only real passion.

    I wasn’t happy, I wasn’t sad for anything beyond his kids because he’s no loss to the world like most of us, but in general, why this dude was my only strong opinion? He’s more important in death than he ever was alive. Poor mistake to kill him on that front if you really hated him that much. Someone made a martyr of a milquetoast C student type.
    Literally yes. I said to a coworker when news broke "the college republican kid?"

    Vaguely remembered the name. Couldn't have picked his face out of a lineup.

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    Hahahahaaa. All you monkeys flinging poo at each other...

    HAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHA...


     
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    With any due respect, he’s doing the same thing.

    And you never answered the question if he sucked you off or not.

    Legit question based on what you let him get away with.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    This was so Kirk though. He probably did an Israel is great show next.

    My gut reaction to his shooting was I’m shocked someone found him relevant enough to shoot. Like he was well past his cultural zenith. He was over 30 now and was just the weird dude on campuses.

    Whatever strong positions or ideas he ever had, he’d immediately backtrack on the next day. Like he was outraged at the Epstein is a hoax story and bombing Iran for exactly a day and then immediately brought back under heel. He was a company man. Lot of used car salesmen Matt Gaetz vibes, but more moral than Gaetz. But greasy opportunist in the same vein. He was a big stop the steal guy while I found it hard to believe he was ever that dumb to truly believe it. Staying on the MAGA gravy train seemed his only real passion.

    I wasn’t happy, I wasn’t sad for anything beyond his kids because he’s no loss to the world like most of us, but in general, why this dude was my only strong opinion? He’s more important in death than he ever was alive. Poor mistake to kill him on that front if you really hated him that much. Someone made a martyr of a milquetoast C student type.
    Last week my kids were telling me that he has a huge following from the boys in middle school and up. I was surprised to hear that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    This was so Kirk though. He probably did an Israel is great show next.

    My gut reaction to his shooting was I’m shocked someone found him relevant enough to shoot. Like he was well past his cultural zenith. He was over 30 now and was just the weird dude on campuses.

    Whatever strong positions or ideas he ever had, he’d immediately backtrack on the next day. Like he was outraged at the Epstein is a hoax story and bombing Iran for exactly a day and then immediately brought back under heel. He was a company man. Lot of used car salesmen Matt Gaetz vibes, but more moral than Gaetz. But greasy opportunist in the same vein. He was a big stop the steal guy while I found it hard to believe he was ever that dumb to truly believe it. Staying on the MAGA gravy train seemed his only real passion.

    I wasn’t happy, I wasn’t sad for anything beyond his kids because he’s no loss to the world like most of us, but in general, why this dude was my only strong opinion? He’s more important in death than he ever was alive. Poor mistake to kill him on that front if you really hated him that much. Someone made a martyr of a milquetoast C student type.
    Last week my kids were telling me that he has a huge following from the boys in middle school and up. I was surprised to hear that
    Really? Is he reaching them through churches or something? I’m around kids that age a lot and I know Fuentes has made an impact. I can’t imagine what appeal a Charlie Kirk has to a kid. Like I didn’t find him entertaining. I find all kinds of people I disagree with entertaining and get their appeal, but not that dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post

    Last week my kids were telling me that he has a huge following from the boys in middle school and up. I was surprised to hear that
    Really? Is he reaching them through churches or something? I’m around kids that age a lot and I know Fuentes has made an impact. I can’t imagine what appeal a Charlie Kirk has to a kid. Like I didn’t find him entertaining. I find all kinds of people I disagree with entertaining and get their appeal, but not that dude.
    We live in a red area. Maybe a few "cool kids" were listening and it spread. Don't these influencers or whatever he was pay to have their shit pushed into peoples algorithms. I don't know how that works. I am old. BTW I thought the dude was about 38 or 39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
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    Really? Is he reaching them through churches or something? I’m around kids that age a lot and I know Fuentes has made an impact. I can’t imagine what appeal a Charlie Kirk has to a kid. Like I didn’t find him entertaining. I find all kinds of people I disagree with entertaining and get their appeal, but not that dude.
    We live in a red area. Maybe a few "cool kids" were listening and it spread. Don't these influencers or whatever he was pay to have their shit pushed into peoples algorithms. I don't know how that works. I am old. BTW I thought the dude was about 38 or 39.

    im guessing the kids in question are either members of or ex members of andrew tate's mlm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    if patel is still head of the fbi by tomorrow night, ill genuinely be shocked. there is simply no way a competent professional wouldnt have a suspect in custody by now.
    Fair but i’m finding more fault with the campus/local police who should have had this guy *long* before the FBI could get mobilized.

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    I had to remove Boz from the thread. I asked him to stop with the low-quality troll posts in the thread aimed at sonatine, and he made several more.

    As I said, this is not censorship. You are welcome to create a new thread bashing sonatine if that's what you'd like to do. Just stop ruining threads like these where serious discussion is taking place.

    sonatine is making some satirical and controversial posts, but he's staying on topic and not trolling anyone in the thread. That's why I haven't removed any of his posts.

     
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    Charlie Kirk is relevant because he has a wide range of appeal. He wasn't an unapologetic asshole like Fuentes, and he wasn't a nerdy intellectual like Ben Shapiro. He's also been around the right wing social media space for a long time. His access to Trump also made him quite influential policy-wise.

    This really is a huge deal. The conservatives I've spoken to about it have expressed shock and sadness -- like they haven't even fully processed yet that this happened and he's never coming back.

    If this shooting was by a right winger, the story will die fairly fast.

    If it was by a left winger, which is more likely, buckle up.

    If it was by a trans, double buckle.



    I am curious how the shot was so accurate, right into his neck, from what had to be a long distance (hence nobody witnessing the shooter). That really narrows down who had the capability to pull this off.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Charlie Kirk is relevant because he has a wide range of appeal. He wasn't an unapologetic asshole like Fuentes, and he wasn't a nerdy intellectual like Ben Shapiro. He's also been around the right wing social media space for a long time. His access to Trump also made him quite influential policy-wise.

    This really is a huge deal. The conservatives I've spoken to about it have expressed shock and sadness -- like they haven't even fully processed yet that this happened and he's never coming back.

    If this shooting was by a right winger, the story will die fairly fast.

    If it was by a left winger, which is more likely, buckle up.

    If it was by a trans, double buckle.
    Political violence is a cancer. Solid leadership could keep political violence from becoming another school shooting cultural phenomenon.

    I have marked the United Health shooter as political on my scorecard btw.

    That said, the (R) Utah governor’s press conference was outstanding. He’s a unicorn sadly. Buckle up.

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    This suspicious post is making it's rounds on the interwebs, but no confirmation yet...





    Also, it might just be me, but if I witness a sniper on the building, I am saying something or calling 911...

    https://twitter.com/JasonCain/status/1965897957758349678

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    They still haven't id'd the shooter? omg.
    https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1965903763278877118

    The comments section to the above.


    Dear god please protect us from the Orweillian nightmare known as Palantir.

    RIP Mr Kirk

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