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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    country978: Boston fans can be like that


    The fewer the miles a given team is from ground zero & English soccer the more passionate and knowledgeable the fan base.

    Bad news for Man Utd as top 10 'worst behaved' fanbases in English football revealed, Millwall are only fifth
    https://www.sportbible.com/football/...19953-20231025

    If folks only knew what Boston once was before we won the World Series. Wipes away tear.
    Buckner came back to Boston for a stint after '86. Maybe it was '90-"91? I sat along the 1st base line at Fenway one game that year and witnessed a display of fan behavior unthinkable in today's world. People despised that guy and let it be known for hours non-stop. Fenway security would never tolerate these things now.

    Here's a funny video"
    https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1949290782621638780

     
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    This is an incredibly plush HR situation with the steamy weather in the small park. Dodgers (Ohtani) will sit on Chase’s fastball - not that this iteration of the Dodgers is a great fastball hitting team but still. How many times have we seen Ohtani ambush a pitcher first at bat this year?

    Yoshi is gonna wilt as is his reputation in these conditions. I’m not a Yoshi fanboy anyway.

    Runs, runs, runs and homeruns.

    winning money isn’t everything to some people. you be you

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    Which site is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Which site is that?
    Ball Park Pal

    BPP - yeah, you know me

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    Doyers 7th highest K% vs RHP last 3 weeks

    Red’s Burns K% 39% @home.

    Oh, the agony Druff

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    Daly, what have you learned about weather and wagering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If you're the Braves, and you make a trade right now, what do you do?

    Salary dump?

    Acquire prospects?

    How about acquire one of MLB's worst 2025 starting pitchers, who is in his 30s?

    They chose the third option: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...edde-cardinals


    What is this team doing?
    The Braves season has been an unmitigated disaster by any objective measure. There is zero question they are sellers at the deadline. Well, if they can fine anyone to take Iglesias and if Ozuna is willing to be traded (he has 10-5 rights and thus a no-trade). Pierce Johnson who has a team option for next year is the only player they have that might net a fringe prospect. The other two are pure salary dumps at this point. Maybe if you eat enough Ozuna money you can net a lotto ticket prospect.

    The move to pick of Fedde totally makes sense. They gave up nothing. Their entire 5 man starting rotation coming into the season is on the 60 day DL. Their current #2 starter is Bryce Elder, he of a 6.29 ERA. They brought up their closest to being ready 20 year old pitching prospect and he got shelled in 4 starts to the tune of a 13.85 ERA. They are trotting out bullpen games 3 out of every 5 days now. They just need warm bodies to eat innings. They have no other options.

    Ozuna getting benched makes sense. His trade value was already low. Sean Murphy has arguably been the 3rd best Catcher in MLB this season and his OPS is 100 points higher than Ozuna. But the benching is about making sure Drake Baldwin gets to play everyday. One, so he can get the reps and experience particularly against lefties. Secondly, if he can prove that the Murphy/Baldwin tandem is good enough to both play every day alternating C/DH that saves a chunk of money next season in not needing to replace Ozuna. And third, it gives Baldwin the best chance to win ROY this year where he's currently in a close race with Misiorowski. Given he was a top 100 prospect him winning ROY would net the Braves an extra draft pick after the first round.

    So both the move of benching Ozuna and grabbing Fedde to eat innings makes sense. They will likely acquire another washed SP soon too if one becomes available for free; as they just need bodies at this point.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If you're the Braves, and you make a trade right now, what do you do?

    Salary dump?

    Acquire prospects?

    How about acquire one of MLB's worst 2025 starting pitchers, who is in his 30s?

    They chose the third option: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...edde-cardinals


    What is this team doing?
    The Braves season has been an unmitigated disaster by any objective measure. There is zero question they are sellers at the deadline. Well, if they can fine anyone to take Iglesias and if Ozuna is willing to be traded (he has 10-5 rights and thus a no-trade). Pierce Johnson who has a team option for next year is the only player they have that might net a fringe prospect. The other two are pure salary dumps at this point. Maybe if you eat enough Ozuna money you can net a lotto ticket prospect.

    The move to pick of Fedde totally makes sense. They gave up nothing. Their entire 5 man starting rotation coming into the season is on the 60 day DL. Their current #2 starter is Bryce Elder, he of a 6.29 ERA. They brought up their closest to being ready 20 year old pitching prospect and he got shelled in 4 starts to the tune of a 13.85 ERA. They are trotting out bullpen games 3 out of every 5 days now. They just need warm bodies to eat innings. They have no other options.

    Ozuna getting benched makes sense. His trade value was already low. Sean Murphy has arguably been the 3rd best Catcher in MLB this season and his OPS is 100 points higher than Ozuna. But the benching is about making sure Drake Baldwin gets to play everyday. One, so he can get the reps and experience particularly against lefties. Secondly, if he can prove that the Murphy/Baldwin tandem is good enough to both play every day alternating C/DH that saves a chunk of money next season in not needing to replace Ozuna. And third, it gives Baldwin the best chance to win ROY this year where he's currently in a close race with Misiorowski. Given he was a top 100 prospect him winning ROY would net the Braves an extra draft pick after the first round.

    So both the move of benching Ozuna and grabbing Fedde to eat innings makes sense. They will likely acquire another washed SP soon too if one becomes available for free; as they just need bodies at this point.
    I guess this all makes sense. I just haven't seen it before where a team presumably out of the race acquires a washed up 30s arm. I realized that Fedde was basically free, but wouldn't they be better off promoting an arm from AAA and seeing how things go? Once in awhile you'll get a guy who surprises you, despite unimpressive minor league numbers. I would have expected Fedde to be acquired by a wildcard-chasing team with pitching issues, to where they feel they can tweak him enough to where he will at least eat innings.

    The Ozuna thing is more understandable, but it's just weird. You watch the Braves far more than I do, so what do you think is wrong? He was a fearsome hitter in 2023 and 2024, especially last year. Now he's fallen off a cliff. I realize he's had some variance. 2015 was an off year for him, he was lousy in 2021 for the limited games he did play, and in 2022 he was mediocre. Yet some other years he raked. I expected some regression in 2025 (some even believed 2024 was roid-aided), but not like this.

    I think Misiorowski wins ROY, as long as he keeps going well. Baldwin has been good, but his numbers aren't eye-popping (.820 OPS). Misiorowski is the Skenes of 2025, though he might be on an inning count, so they could shut him down early or severely limit his action, this hurting his chances. Baldwin also has the problem in that he's competing with Miami catcher Agustin Ramirez. Baldwin has been better, and Ramirez has had some defensive issues, but Ramirez is also the more explosive hitter, and a hot streak in the final 2 months could end up causing him to steal some votes from Baldwin.

    I do have to wonder why so many formerly fearsome Braves hitters have struggled all at once. You look at that lineup and it looks incredible on paper, but so many guys are performing under expectation. Michael Harris is a good example. Sometimes he looks like a breakout star, and other times he's an automatic out.

    Imagine if someone told you at the beginning of the season that, on July 27, the Braves would be 6 games behind the Marlins, and 17.5 games worse than the Brewers.

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    Emmanuel Clase is on leave due to gambling probe related to Luis Ortiz: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...gambling-probe

    His ties to the investigation that started following a June 27 alert from IC360, a firm that monitors betting markets for abnormalities, are unclear. Sportsbooks and gambling operators were alerted after a spike in action on Ortiz's first pitch in the bottom of the second inning against the Seattle Mariners on June 15 and in the top of the third inning against the St. Louis Cardinals on June 27, according to sources. In both cases, unusual amounts of money were wagered on the pitches being a ball or hit batsman from betting accounts in New York, New Jersey and Ohio, according to a copy of the IC360 alert obtained by ESPN. Both pitches wound up well outside the strike zone.

    Why are guys who are making so much money getting involved in rigging props? And why do these sportsbettors think they can bet abnormally large amounts on these weird props and get away with it?

    At least Ortiz is making under $800k per year. Clase is on a 5-year, $20m deal which will later result in much more money if he stays healthy and pitches at least fairly well, even if he doesn't duplicate his 2024 campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Emmanuel Clase is on leave due to gambling probe related to Luis Ortiz: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...gambling-probe

    His ties to the investigation that started following a June 27 alert from IC360, a firm that monitors betting markets for abnormalities, are unclear. Sportsbooks and gambling operators were alerted after a spike in action on Ortiz's first pitch in the bottom of the second inning against the Seattle Mariners on June 15 and in the top of the third inning against the St. Louis Cardinals on June 27, according to sources. In both cases, unusual amounts of money were wagered on the pitches being a ball or hit batsman from betting accounts in New York, New Jersey and Ohio, according to a copy of the IC360 alert obtained by ESPN. Both pitches wound up well outside the strike zone.

    Why are guys who are making so much money getting involved in rigging props? And why do these sportsbettors think they can bet abnormally large amounts on these weird props and get away with it?

    At least Ortiz is making under $800k per year. Clase is on a 5-year, $20m deal which will later result in much more money if he stays healthy and pitches at least fairly well, even if he doesn't duplicate his 2024 campaign.

    Being that they are both Dominican, slight chance they have been compromised by family/people threatening family.

    Otherwise, who knows. In a way, the ability to bet all these crazy props is temporarily making the sports more legit, which is kind of the opposite of most of what the pearl-clutching sportswriters like to say. All these idiots thinking they can hammer "unders" on some scrubs stats or first pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
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    Emmanuel Clase is on leave due to gambling probe related to Luis Ortiz: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...gambling-probe




    Why are guys who are making so much money getting involved in rigging props? And why do these sportsbettors think they can bet abnormally large amounts on these weird props and get away with it?

    At least Ortiz is making under $800k per year. Clase is on a 5-year, $20m deal which will later result in much more money if he stays healthy and pitches at least fairly well, even if he doesn't duplicate his 2024 campaign.

    Being that they are both Dominican, slight chance they have been compromised by family/people threatening family.

    Otherwise, who knows. In a way, the ability to bet all these crazy props is temporarily making the sports more legit, which is kind of the opposite of most of what the pearl-clutching sportswriters like to say. All these idiots thinking they can hammer "unders" on some scrubs stats or first pitch.
    If the family is being threatened in the Dominican, you'd think Clase would just pay these people off and be done with it, rather than risk his career on rigging sports props. But maybe he was dumb enough to think he won't get caught, because it's just a few pitches.

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    Pray for Ohtani.

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    Did you hear the Reds play "You Had a Bad Day" from American Idol when Ohtani walked off?

    Bad form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Did you hear the Reds play "You Had a Bad Day" from American Idol when Ohtani walked off?

    Bad form.
    As you would expect, I was watching the Cincinnati broadcast. You’d think Shoehei was not likely to play baseball the rest of the year if you were only listening.

    Sawks fans boo’d Ohtani 4 days ago. As a bushido warrior Ohtani has been known to boo himself in these situations. Instantly, wins over the crowd.

    Your SoCal upbringing and sensitivity are showing. I accept your differences.

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    Andy Pages will cost Druff a playoff game in the first round of playoffs. Probability says a goofy base running error but his low IQ leaves the field open to almost anything.

    Dropped foul tonight was not scored an error but we know the truth. Cost Dodgers the game.

    We will revisit this post in October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Andy Pages will cost Druff a playoff game in the first round of playoffs. Probability says a goofy base running error but his low IQ leaves the field open to almost anything.

    Dropped foul tonight was not scored an error but we know the truth. Cost Dodgers the game.

    We will revisit this post in October.
    He's already playing over his head, hitting-wise.

    After a decent year last year, he was off to a horrid start in 2025, and was a hair away from being demoted and never being heard from again. Then he caught fire, and now he sits with a .281 average, 19 HR, and an OPS near .800. I don't think he will keep it up, as he was only a semi-fringe prospect -- not a total nobody, but not expected to be a starter on a team like the Dodgers.

    But yes, the Puig-like defensive/baserunning fails can be aggravating.

    Shohei finished off the game as DH, so he couldn't be that injured.

     
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    So much for the motley crew of Matt Strahm and Orion Kerkering saving games for the Phillies. They've acquired Jhoan Duran from the Twins, giving up prospects Mick Abel and Eduardo Tait. Abel has struggled in his first season in MLB, though he's only been in 8 games.

    Much more bizarre is the Cardinals shipping off closer Ryan Helsley to the Mets, who already have Edwin Diaz. Helsley will be the Mets' setup man. Mets also grabbed Tyler Rogers from the Giants.

    Ke'Bryan Hayes went from the Pirates to the Reds, and the other Rogers brother -- Taylor -- was the one who went to Pittsburgh in return.

    The Cardinals are 55-55 and I guess decided they're sellers. They're presently 5.5 games behind the Padres for the 3rd wildcard spot.

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    Trades coming fast and furious.

    Great site to keep up on them.

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

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    So far no major, game-changing deals.

    Duran and Eugenio Suarez remain the biggest names to move thus far.

    The Padres acquired Mason Miller from the A's, though Robert Suarez has better numbers than him. Suarez also has 30 saves! The guess right now is that Miller will go to setup.

    Seems like it's mostly been relievers moving this year. Kyle Finnegan was shipped to Detroit, and David Bednar is probably going to the Yankees.

    Brock Stewart, originally with the Dodgers, is BACK with the team now, as the team has finally given up on James Outman and sent him in return. But that's not a high impact move. The Dodgers acquired 3 young players earlier in a 3-way trade with the Reds and Rays, in exchange for catcher Hunter Feduccia. None of these moves are likely to make a major impact on the team, though it might improve the bullpen enough to where a closer can emerge, and maybe prevent some of these late inning fails.

    If Bednar moves, that means the NL will see different closers on the Phillies, Nationals, Pirates, Cardinals, and Padres, compared to just 48 hours ago.

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    Cedric Mullins joins the Mets from Baltimore, sending Jeff McNeil to play 2B, and Brett Baty to the bench. Harrison Bader is now a starting outfielder on the Phillies, and is having his best year since 2021, though still has an OPS of only .778.

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