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    odds of iranian weapons grade fissile material ending up in the hands of like whatever the new isis is are basically 100 out of 100 at this point.
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    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-856407

    Yael Ariel, one of the abuse survivors, shared: “I experienced ritual abuse over many years until my late teens and was forced to harm other children. I chose to speak out and make my voice heard. I received threats after revealing my story. From age five to age 20, I was harmed in these ceremonies.”

    According to Ariel, she received testimonies from several women who claimed that doctors, educators, police officers, and past and present members of the Knesset were involved in these abuses.

    “I filed a complaint with the police that was closed after a few months, and I know of other cases that were closed. Speaking out today in the Knesset is a historic moment,” she said.

    Another survivor, Yael Shitrit, testified: “You have no idea what ritual abuse is. The human brain cannot comprehend it. You can’t imagine what it means to program a three-year-old girl through rape and sadism so they can do whatever they want without anyone knowing.

    “Their trafficking of me happened all over the country. They moved me from ceremony to ceremony. Naked men stood in a circle. My therapist, her husband, and her son harmed me, and there were dozens of other girls and boys who harmed me.

    “There were ceremonies and rituals meant to make me forget,” Shitrit continued. “The police have known about this for a year, but they don’t have the tools to deal with it.
    The people who will fall are very, very senior figures. These people run communities and government agencies. They threaten us. I have children I need to protect. Something needs to be set up that can deal with this.

    They tried to make us like them – the people who caused us endless pain,” Shitrit said. “Your role is to make this stop in Safed, Jerusalem, Jaljulya, or anywhere else,” she declared.

    DR. NAAMA GOLDBERG, head of an NGO called Lo Omdot MeNegged (Hebrew for “Not Standing Idly By”), which assists prostitution survivors, explained that the depictions are sometimes so gruesome that they are hard to believe, but this incredulity serves the abusers, who convince victims not to complain by arguing that they will not be believed.

    “Several years ago, I received descriptions of sadistic abuse of children,” Goldberg said. “The accounts sounded absurd. [But] the testimonies kept coming and would not let up. They described gang rape by men, and sometimes by women. The abuse was filmed, and drugs were used. There were ritual practices and symbolism.

    “I presented the police with written testimonies from five women. To this day, no one has contacted me. Since the report, additional testimonies have surfaced,” Goldberg said.

    A representative of the Israel Police, Ch.-Supt. Anat Yakir, said that there was a national unit reviewing all cases and that the complaints were “a top priority in the intelligence division.”


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    People downplaying the effectiveness of the strikes don't know what they're talking about and are falling for Iranian, libtard media co-opted talking points.

    That aside, Israel of course forced the U.S. into acting here, but one thing that the public is not considering is that Trump's actions and how quickly he did it is also to give the Israelis no real excuse and no more time to continue escalation. Every directly hired or indirectly hired media shill of the administration is making it clear that "this was about stopping nuclear capabilities, not about regime change".

    Will this stop the Israeli government from heading further down the war path? Doubtful. Guess who wants regime change?


    I fully support the Israeli people, but the actions of their government, especially if this doesn't end the escalation, are more and more completely indefensible. Was the threat of nuclear weapon development not the supposed issue? Did the U.S. not just drop 14 MOPs and dozens of Tomahawks on these facilities, almost surely disabling them for now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    People downplaying the effectiveness of the strikes don't know what they're talking about and are falling for Iranian, libtard media co-opted talking points.

    That aside, Israel of course forced the U.S. into acting here, but one thing that the public is not considering is that Trump's actions and how quickly he did it is also to give the Israelis no real excuse and no more time to continue escalation. Every directly hired or indirectly hired media shill of the administration is making it clear that "this was about stopping nuclear capabilities, not about regime change".

    Will this stop the Israeli government from heading further down the war path? Doubtful. Guess who wants regime change?


    I fully support the Israeli people, but the actions of their government, especially if this doesn't end the escalation, are more and more completely indefensible. Was the threat of nuclear weapon development not the supposed issue? Did the U.S. not just drop 12 MOABs and dozens of Tomahawks on these facilities, almost surely disabling them for now?
    Unless you have some inside information nobody has any idea of the effectiveness of the strikes. USA and Iran both running high propaganda campaigns right now.z

     
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    Should the price of gas get to high i'm sure Jews and the Israeli govt will set up a program to reimburse US drivers the difference.
    That's what allies are for. right guys? Keep your reciepts, Bibi's good for it.. I love that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post
    People downplaying the effectiveness of the strikes don't know what they're talking about and are falling for Iranian, libtard media co-opted talking points.

    nobody here knows shit about their effectiveness, including you.

     
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    iran had like a week to fill the tunnels with soil after moving all their enriched uranium.

    believing implicitly that a non-nuclear solution made a dent in that reality is the height of maga magical thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    iran had like a week to fill the tunnels with soil after moving all their enriched uranium.

    believing implicitly that a non-nuclear solution made a dent in that reality is the height of maga magical thinking.
    Does it even matter? The Iranians have closed the Straits of Hurmuz? And this, of course, is only going to escalate hostilities further. To what end?

    Those encouraging regime change in Iran who are not Iranians living in Iran are terrible people. We've had a lifetime of "regime change" operations and none of them have ever gone as planned. Its incredibly sad having to say over and over and over again that we've never learned a single important lesson from Viet Nam.

    The Tucker Carlson interview with Ted Cruz was disgusting. Cruz might be one of the worst Americans to have ever lived. Lindsey Graham is even worse. The stupidity and immorality of the war mongers, after all that's happened to get us to this point, is astounding.

    We invaded Iraq under false pretense in 2003. or did I imagine that? We spent 20 years in Afghanistan to kill one person who was killed years before we left in disgrace or did that not happen also? We instigated a fight with the Russians we could never win only to capitulate to a worse outcome years later? And now this? There is something seriously wrong.

     
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    Every target was hit successfully at all three sites. The goal was to destroy access to the facilities first and foremost. It doesn't matter if the structures underground weren't caved in if they cannot get any people or cargo in and out of the places. Any attempt to would obviously be seen by our satellites. Please don't let antisemitism get in the way of common sense.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Iran's just one angle. Look at the Universities being threatened with losing funding if they dare tell the truth.
    Look at the masked officers snatching people off the street for not supporting genocide.
    Colleges and Universities have undercover officers deployed on campus to make sure nobody says anything negative towards Israel Zionists Jews etc.
    At airports across the country people are being detained and questioned if they've ever said anything negative about Israel.
    and they're just warming up
    Wait til Palantir gets their hands on every bit of data on every single American.
    They'll show you how AI powered Bolsheviks roll
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    If anything, doesn’t this whole situation show that the notion of false flags and shit like that is largely just tinfoil shit? Not saying it never happens, but not very often.

    This strike is a total loser for Trump. Iran has never had a successful terrorist attack on US soil. Even back in 79/80, they took 52 hostages and gave us back 52 hostages. They struck us one time over there the first Trump presidency, but only after we killed one of theirs under the pretense he was going to be a threat to us in the future.

    There is no world where they were a threat to the US homeland.

    Fuck he sucks Saudi Arabia’s dick when every guy at the towers was a Saudi and they financed it. Iran hasn’t done shit to us really. Not saying I like a bunch of retarded mullahs, but they weren’t a threat.

    Logically in a tinfoil world, we pull off some false flag here that we attribute to Iran and then there is zero pushback on attacking them. That’s how tinfoil thinkers imagine the world works.

    Yet now, very best case scenario for Trump is this is a one and done, and he retains 75% of his base. Twenty-five percent will always think he’s Bibi’s bitch now and never view him the same. A lot of them just don’t like Jews under any circumstance. He’ll pick up a few Jews on the left, but they are so small in numbers it doesn’t matter from a math standpoint.

    They might still consider him better than the other side, but he’s lost that young emerging demo he was building who largely hate Israel.

    In that light, I’d say it’s kind of a brave act if he really believed it was necessary or was fooled into thinking it was necessary. But there is usually more to the story with him and you find he got paid. Miriam all ready gave him $100 million.

    But like if he loses 10 Americans because of something everyone knows wasn’t done for America first in any way, he loses way more. Let it turn into more troops on the ground in the Middle East and he’s a 3 year lame duck.

    I can’t ever recall a US strike against anything that wasn’t initially met with a wave of patriotism. This hasn’t been at all. Forget the Dems. A good amount of his people hate this and think he got worked.

    Weird spot. I hope they were as bad as Israel contends. I don’t blame them. It’s totally understandable for them to want to crush Iran. If they were lying about this being imminent, I blame us for falling for it. Actually Trump gets the blame solely. His own intelligence told him they had nothing and he struck without congressional approval on his own with very little upside.

    The only way this is ever positive is if Iran actually launches some nuke at Israel now. Then you were right and they were right. But that’s not a win you want.

    This was just a really poorly executed run up and explanation for why it needed done. To go from your own intelligence chief saying they had nothing a few months ago to this is just nuts. Then to run on no new wars and do something that could possibly turn into one. Makes zero sense. No one made a case for why this is necessary at all. Same weeks away for 30 years, yet we have to do this now.


    I wouldn’t want to be some immigrant just working and minding my own business this week. He’s really down and will be looking for something to distract and try to reenergize his base. I’d stay at home if I was an immigrant and could afford it for a week. He will be looking to start a fight with them. His only real popular position. People hate tariffs. People hate his decision here. They like seeing him ship immigrants out.

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