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    Matt will be taking out communists like you in short order.

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    Just heard Trump said Gaetz is his most important appointment. He is going to get in, if not by the Senate then by recess appointment. He has on his side the fact Garland declined to file charges, so really who cares what the Ethics Committee has to say. Not my first choice obviously, but it's Trumps and he is going to get his way. But he will be the AG.

    Make no mistake, the FBI in Trump's administration will be disassembled. It really was a concoction of JD Edgar Hoover anyway to spy on people. Not much has changed. I have never understood why the FBI has ever existed when you have an AG office.
    Mueller turned the FBI from a police agency into an intelligence/spy agency because Bush 43 bitched him out about not stopping 9/11, which wasn’t in the FBI’s job description at the time.
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    People don't realize the FBI did not grow out of organic need, it grew out of J Edgar Hoover's thirst for power over a 50 year helm over the organization. There is no need for it, actually there never was, and btw FDR was the first to weaponize it against his enemies, not much has changed. I am personally fine with regional federal agencies that protect civil rights or help root out domestic bad actors. But this notion you need a 40,000 person bureaucracy in Washington is just absurd. It's just an arm of politics at this point.

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump and his team anticipated this situation of escalation . Zelensky is now signaling that the war needs to end as soon as possible. It wouldn’t shock me if Trump warned him against escalating further in the next two months, making it clear there would be consequences.

    Meanwhile, Biden’s decision to escalate tensions with Russia at this stage is utterly insane . The best-case scenario is more deaths on both sides; the worst case is a catastrophic escalation spiraling out of control. There’s no upside . Allowing Ukraine to fire American-made missiles into Kursk , a region where the Battle of Kursk holds profound significance for Russians will only make matters worse. People overlook how much the Kursk region means historically and symbolically to Russia and how insulting it would be for Western missiles to be fired on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    I want to know why liberals give Bill Clinton a pass, a sitting President, gets to seduce a 21 year old intern in the Oval Office for months for blow jobs and that is ok, but what Gaetz did is such a moral outrage? Help me understand.
    Well, one is an adult and the other is a child, so there’s that.

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    Are there people that believe Gaetz is guilty of something?

    Please explain why Merrick Garland investigated and didn't press charges. However there were charges and conviction for someone trying to extort him over the accusation. The timing of the accusation was when Matt was about to announce running for higher office in Florida. The deep state is against Matt. That makes him a perfect AG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    Are there people that believe Gaetz is guilty of something?

    Please explain why Merrick Garland investigated and didn't press charges. However there were charges and conviction for someone trying to extort him over the accusation. The timing of the accusation was when Matt was about to announce running for higher office in Florida. The deep state is against Matt. That makes him a perfect AG.
    Here's the problem.

    Like the Epstein Island situation, this isn't as black and white as scandal hunters would like it to be.

    Gaetz loved to do drugs and bang hookers. He had a friend named Joel Greenberg who supplied these hookers (and probably the drugs, too), and would invite Gaetz to his parties. Gaetz probably banged various girls that Greenberg brought.

    It has been proven in a court of law that Greenberg was indeed finding underage girls and paying them to fuck guys at these parties. Greenberg was also bringing hookers age 18+ to the parties. It seemed that he just wanted to procure young chicks willing to have sex for money, and didn't care if they were 18 or not. Obviously that's bad, and he belongs in prison (he got 11 years for this and other offenses), but this doesn't appear to be a pedo ring.

    But regarding Gaetz, there are questions which are difficult to get the full answer. Did Gaetz have sex with the hookers who were underage, or only the ones who were over 18? And if Gaetz did have sex with underage hookers, was he aware they were under 18? And was Gaetz aware at all that Greenberg was bringing underage hookers to these parties, or did he assume they were all of age?

    It's possible that there's not enough proof that Gaetz had sex with underage girls there, and it's also possible that he legit didn't know anyone at these parties were underage. It's also possible that he knew and, like Greenberg, didn't care.

    Anyway, there's almost zero point zero chance he was completely innocent here.

    The extortion attempt was real, but was separate from all of this. It was done by some idiot in his 60s who heard about Gaetz's issues and thought he could squeeze $$ out of him by pretending to be a fixer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    Are there people that believe Gaetz is guilty of something?

    Please explain why Merrick Garland investigated and didn't press charges. However there were charges and conviction for someone trying to extort him over the accusation. The timing of the accusation was when Matt was about to announce running for higher office in Florida. The deep state is against Matt. That makes him a perfect AG.
    The same reason Trump was not convicted of insurrection for J6- investigated and nothing found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    But regarding Gaetz, there are questions which are difficult to get the full answer. Did Gaetz have sex with the hookers who were underage, or only the ones who were over 18? And if Gaetz did have sex with underage hookers, was he aware they were under 18? And was Gaetz aware at all that Greenberg was bringing underage hookers to these parties, or did he assume they were all of age?

    It's possible that there's not enough proof that Gaetz had sex with underage girls there, and it's also possible that he legit didn't know anyone at these parties were underage. It's also possible that he knew and, like Greenberg, didn't care.

    Anyway, there's almost zero point zero chance he was completely innocent here.

    The extortion attempt was real, but was separate from all of this. It was done by some idiot in his 60s who heard about Gaetz's issues and thought he could squeeze $$ out of him by pretending to be a fixer.

    druff- you don't think if there was even a small chance that M. Garland would have gotten a conviction that he would have indicated and humiliated Gaetz? and if not federal, it's not like he couldn't find some state prosecutor to do his bidding in exchange for a better job later. this is all a lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    But regarding Gaetz, there are questions which are difficult to get the full answer. Did Gaetz have sex with the hookers who were underage, or only the ones who were over 18? And if Gaetz did have sex with underage hookers, was he aware they were under 18? And was Gaetz aware at all that Greenberg was bringing underage hookers to these parties, or did he assume they were all of age?

    It's possible that there's not enough proof that Gaetz had sex with underage girls there, and it's also possible that he legit didn't know anyone at these parties were underage. It's also possible that he knew and, like Greenberg, didn't care.

    Anyway, there's almost zero point zero chance he was completely innocent here.

    The extortion attempt was real, but was separate from all of this. It was done by some idiot in his 60s who heard about Gaetz's issues and thought he could squeeze $$ out of him by pretending to be a fixer.

    druff- you don't think if there was even a small chance that M. Garland would have gotten a conviction that he would have indicated and humiliated Gaetz? and if not federal, it's not like he couldn't find some state prosecutor to do his bidding in exchange for a better job later. this is all a lock.
    They probably had a hard time coming up with anything concrete. I'm guessing they can't produce a girl under 18 at the time who will testify that she had sex with Gaetz (maybe because he didn't have sex with anyone underage), and they also can't show that Gaetz knew underage girls were present at all.

    It would not surprise me if he just showed up to Greenberg's parties and thought he was fucking young hookers and doing drugs, and didn't even think about the possible underage issue.

    However, they can probably show that he was at these parties, fucked hookers, and that there were underage girls trafficked, so that's the last thing he wants coming out at the hearings. Hence the resignation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    druff- you don't think if there was even a small chance that M. Garland would have gotten a conviction that he would have indicated and humiliated Gaetz? and if not federal, it's not like he couldn't find some state prosecutor to do his bidding in exchange for a better job later. this is all a lock.
    In the year of our lord 2024 issues of morality have nothing to do with politics. Gary Hart/Donna Rice was a different country. We move on.

    Do you believe @Tellafriend that Gaetz could be massively embarrassed and discredited in a confirmation hearing over his knowledge of the law?

    Otherwise, I am inclined to believe if Trump wants this guy he will get him. I am saying this as one who occupies the real world and not as some kind of ideological bent. I can get +300 (true odds ought to be +350) and am about to push the button.

    Can I get administrative approval to proceed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    druff- you don't think if there was even a small chance that M. Garland would have gotten a conviction that he would have indicated and humiliated Gaetz? and if not federal, it's not like he couldn't find some state prosecutor to do his bidding in exchange for a better job later. this is all a lock.
    In the year of our lord 2024 issues of morality have nothing to do with politics. Gary Hart/Donna Rice was a different country. We move on.

    Do you believe @Tellafriend that Gaetz could be massively embarrassed and discredited in a confirmation hearing over his knowledge of the law?

    Otherwise, I am inclined to believe if Trump wants this guy he will get him. I am saying this as one who occupies the real world and not as some kind of ideological bent. I can get +300 (true odds ought to be +350) and am about to push the button.

    Can I get administrative approval to proceed?
    It does not matter if he knows the day to day law. The Deputy AG will handle that, I am not sure why people are so ignorant to the fact the Cabinet Secretaries don't do the day to day work. His job is to be a flamethrower on TV and root out the 'deep state' if you believe that narrative. Unless there is something more that comes out other than sex on a air hockey table, which he can say did not happen, he will get confirmed. Now if there is a video, well that is something entirely different.

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