Time to get on the TRUMP train

[country978]

Are you rooting against President Trump? Do you want him to fail? C'mon already. Do you want the wars to continue also? I truly have no idea where you're coming from with all the ugliness and negativity.

The people have spoken. You should be rooting for the people.

You are ignorant

You gonna be okay with AMERICAN TROOPS fighting israels war for them?

Trump will give Israel ‘blank check’ which may mean all-out war with Iran, says ex-CIA chief
Leon Panetta says he also expects US president-elect to favor letting Russia retain control of areas of Ukraine

Donald Trump will as president give Benjamin Netanyahu a “blank check” in the Middle East, possibly opening the way for all-out war between Israel and Iran, the former CIA director and US defense secretary Leon Panetta predicted.

“With regards to the Middle East, I think he’s basically going to give Netanyahu a blank check,” Panetta said of Trump, who won the presidential election this week and will take office again in January.

“‘Whatever you do, whatever you want to do, whoever you want to go after, you have my blessing.’ I mean, he basically said that [before the election].”

The Israeli prime minister has overseen attacks on Iran and its assets as part of a growing conflagration since Hamas attacked Israel on 7 October last year. He and the US president-elect were reported to have spoken during the US election campaign. Netanyahu congratulated Trump on Wednesday, after Trump’s victory over Kamala Harris was confirmed.

Panetta continued: “And so the real question there is whether Netanyahu decides to continue to try to expand that war, go after Iran, or do things that basically create an even greater concern about whether or not the Middle East is ever going to resolve itself or be in constant conflict.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...r-iran-panetta



and dont give me Panetta is deep state bullshit or whatever nonsense the right wing propaganda machine has planted in your head

I'm hesitant to even respond to you. I dislike the way you've spoken to me despite past assurances that we treat each other respectfully even if we don't agree. You broke that. I did not.

As for the Iranians, I highly doubt we will be going to war with them any time soon. The remaining hostages held by the Palestinians (Americans included) are likely to be released on 1/20/25. The war with the Russians will be over too.

We should all want peace. Its coming soon.

[big dick]

You are ignorant

You gonna be okay with AMERICAN TROOPS fighting israels war for them?

Trump will give Israel ‘blank check’ which may mean all-out war with Iran, says ex-CIA chief
Leon Panetta says he also expects US president-elect to favor letting Russia retain control of areas of Ukraine

Donald Trump will as president give Benjamin Netanyahu a “blank check” in the Middle East, possibly opening the way for all-out war between Israel and Iran, the former CIA director and US defense secretary Leon Panetta predicted.

“With regards to the Middle East, I think he’s basically going to give Netanyahu a blank check,” Panetta said of Trump, who won the presidential election this week and will take office again in January.

“‘Whatever you do, whatever you want to do, whoever you want to go after, you have my blessing.’ I mean, he basically said that [before the election].”

The Israeli prime minister has overseen attacks on Iran and its assets as part of a growing conflagration since Hamas attacked Israel on 7 October last year. He and the US president-elect were reported to have spoken during the US election campaign. Netanyahu congratulated Trump on Wednesday, after Trump’s victory over Kamala Harris was confirmed.

Panetta continued: “And so the real question there is whether Netanyahu decides to continue to try to expand that war, go after Iran, or do things that basically create an even greater concern about whether or not the Middle East is ever going to resolve itself or be in constant conflict.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...r-iran-panetta



and dont give me Panetta is deep state bullshit or whatever nonsense the right wing propaganda machine has planted in your head

I'm hesitant to even respond to you. I dislike the way you've spoken to me despite past assurances that we treat each other respectfully even if we don't agree. You broke that. I did not.

As for the Iranians, I highly doubt we will be going to war with them any time soon. The remaining hostages held by the Palestinians (Americans included) are likely to be released on 1/20/25. The war with the Russians will be over too.

We should all want peace. Its coming soon.

I hope you're right
You're prob not but I hope you are

Yoav Gallant reportedly says Israeli army has nothing left to do in Gaza
Ousted defence minister also quoted as saying Netanyahu rejected peace deal against advice of his security officials


ael’s ousted defence minister, Yoav Gallant, has reportedly said the army has achieved all its objectives in Gaza and that Benjamin Netanyahu rejected a hostages-for-peace deal against the advice of his own security establishment.

Gallant was speaking to hostages’ families on Thursday, two days after being sacked by Netanyahu, and reports of his remarks quickly surfaced in Israeli media.

“There’s nothing left in Gaza to do. The major achievements have been achieved,” Channel 12 news quoted him as saying. “I fear we are staying there just because there is a desire to be there.”

He reportedly told the families that the idea that Israel must remain in Gaza to create stability was “an inappropriate idea to risk soldiers’ lives over”.

Citing a source familiar with the conversation, Haaretz also reported that Gallant had said the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) had achieved all their objectives in Gaza. The Israeli newspaper’s report said the prime minister’s considerations regarding a hostage deal “are neither military nor political”.

Gallant is said to have told the families that Netanyahu was the only person who could decide on whether to make a deal involving the release of Israeli hostages by Hamas in return for the freeing of Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons and an initially temporary ceasefire.

The Biden administration has been trying to broker such an agreement since May, when the US president announced the blueprint of a phased agreement, claiming it had been accepted by the Netanyahu government, but the Israeli prime minister made a series of comments distancing himself from its terms.

He later made an agreement contingent on maintaining an IDF presence in the Philadelphi corridor on the Gaza-Egypt border, which was unacceptable to Hamas. US officials came to see Netanyahu as at least as big an obstacle to peace as Hamas.

Gallant reportedly told the hostage families there was no military reason for holding on to the strip of land.

“The IDF commander and I said there was no security reason for remaining in the Philadelphi corridor,” Channel 12 reported him as saying. “Netanyahu said that it was a diplomatic consideration; I’m telling you there was no diplomatic consideration.”

Gallant’s departure from the coalition government removes the last major rival to Netanyahu, and the last relative moderate, from a cabinet dominated by the hard right. The Knesset passed a bill on Thursday, put forward by a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party, which would allow the deportation of close relatives of anyone convicted of terrorist offences, even if the deportee was an Israeli citizen.

Although it is not specified in the text of the law, it is widely assumed that the new law is intended to apply to Palestinian citizens of Israel, and not to the relatives of convicted Jewish terrorists.

Gallant’s remarks on Thursday are politically explosive in Israel, where the families of the remaining hostages being held in Gaza, their supporters and the Israeli opposition have all accused Netanyahu of keeping the conflict in Gaza going to put off a new election, and the risk of losing power.

The absence of a ceasefire in Gaza has also prolonged the conflict in Lebanon, where the Shia militia Hezbollah has vowed to keep up attacks on Israel as long as Palestinians are being bombed in Gaza.

Lebanon’s civil defence service said 30 people were killed in an Israeli airstrike on an apartment building in the town of Barja, in the Bekaa valley on Wednesday. The IDF has claimed that 60 Hezbollah fighters had been killed within 24 hours. Lebanese news agencies said two drones in the vicinity had been targeting moving cars.

The health authorities in Gaza said 27 had been killed on Thursday morning, most in northern Gaza, where the IDF has been ordering civilians to evacuate.

More than 43,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza during the past 13 months of Israeli bombardment, according to estimates by the Hamas-run health authorities, which are generally seen by the UN and other aid agencies as reliable.

Over the same period, more than 3,000 people have been killed in Israeli strikes on Lebanon, the vast majority in the past six weeks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-to-do-in-gaza

[Tellafriend]

Also, Trump is going through with his mass deportation.
The company I work for has contracts with several logistic companies throughout the states. When we are setting up a new location with the client, I oversee everything on my company's end. I've been to countless warehouse throughout cali and one thing seems consistent, about 98% of the on floor staff are Mexicans. More women than men usually and many barely speak English. They are hired through agencies and there are a lot of agencies lol.

These people work hard, come in every day for shit pay and no opportunity for growth. Its a fucked situation but they do it.

And who are going to fill these iobs? They are offered to anyone but its only the Mexicans that takes them. There would have to be some kind of negative consequence for removing that large of the labor force without any plan to keep the companies, and thus the movement of goods, running.

Americans will be reduced to taking them eventually

MAGA you guys lost too you just dont know it yet. bookmark this post

Im rooting for America and the American people ofc but I suspect this isnt going to end well for most of us.

the 10 richest people have already made 64 billion since Tuesday

Get used to it.

you sound uber jealous. what's the matter, did you not do well financially this week like the rest of us? did you wager your family's wealth again and lose. all on your sure thing.

you are an arrogant, brainwashed fool.

let us know, did your dad tell you how to vote again in this election like he did in 2016? those were some funny posts once you admitted that.

what a clown. and a broke one at that.

[desertrunner]

[RichardBrodiesCombover.]

Cringe. Why is MAGA obsessed with daddys

[VaughnP]

Look at all these Trumpanzees that are so clueless that they don’t understand basic law. If you are born in the United States you are automatically considered a natural born citizen. There are some that would like to change that but as of now the law is the law. It’s all right there in the 14th amendment and lots of Supreme Court case law to affirm it.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship.

The trumpanzee strategy is just like their leaders….respond with lies and deflections. Opposition to trump doesn’t make one a Biden supporter or a libtard…..and I didn’t vote for Gavin either.

This take on the 14th amendment is parroted everywhere by people who have never looked into the facts.


This is from over 5 years ago:

I've had discussions with relatives who are German citizens about this issue. Germany is generally considered a more "progressive" country than the United States, and even their laws state that the only children born to a non-citizen parent or parents who can obtain citizenship are born to permanent German resident permit holders or parents who have been living in the country for a verifiable minimum of 8 years. And even then, to maintain citizenship they must complete a list of requirements by age 23.

The reason why I bring this up is because legal precedent in the United States is similar.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...._Wong_Kim_Ark

A child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

So even the only case that can somewhat argue the side of "land a plane here, have a baby = citizen" or "cross a river illegally, have a baby = citizen", clearly states that this right is only granted to the children of citizens or permanent residents.

Only posting the tweet screenshot because even a widely respected progressive historian/law professor went public with admitting it's a bullshit take that actually needs challenged.

[splitthis]

The truth will be exposed. As horrible as the last 4 years has been, it is for the greater good. Full republican power and no chance of forgetting tranny Joe and crew.

[Tellafriend]

just wait until the bribery is exposed between the Ukraine and Bidens.

This is the way it is done up there. So many of the politicians are being paid/bribed via back channels, kids getting jobs, family jobs, property deals, investment opportunities, book deals lol.

It is all a grift. Hunter got caught doing this and worse. But his dad was so entrenched in the establishment that they all went to protect their own.

imagine when it all comes out and what we spent/wasted on this conflict.


likewise, how will it be thought of when we look back and realize we allowed a sitting president's administration to indict his political opponent, also a former president, and then it turns out that the President did the same thing, only to have his own DOJ determine that he was too incompetent to even sit through and understand his trial. Our nation's response - nothing. he stays in charge but doesn't face charges. no discussion of him resigning or being pushed out of power. it's lunacy. everyone shrugs. this encapsulates where we are now. end of times.