Tremendous Trivia Question you can make money on

[tgull]

It's about a rule in football, but you can win some side bets on. I will post in a few minutes. But this is a cash machine against your friends. Soon.

[tgull]

Trivia questions for your friends, ask them to throw out $20s to bet.

Name the point totals you can make on a NFL score? Seems simple right? 6 points for a TD, 3 points for a Field Goal, 2 points for a safety, 2 and 1 points for an extra point. Right? Or is it that simple? Clean up the bets. Never happened in the NFL, but on the books. Happened twice in college. Nobody really has ever heard about this.

[tgull]

Here it is explained, the only second time that it ever happened. In a crazy turn of events the same announcer from the Texas game was on this game. What are the odds of that?

[BCR]

Here it is explained, the only second time that it ever happened. In a crazy turn of events the same announcer from the Texas game was on this game. What are the odds of that?

You’re right. Never heard of it. Being a gambler, thought I’ve seen it all. Had games flip on returned extra points that result in 2. I’ve never seen that.

[Daly]

True story The name of my main fantasy team for 20+ years

“The one point safeties”

Its the rarest play in sports, more rare than an unassisted triple play.

I was inches away from calling one in a High School game but it was a blowout before halftime so we game the team some leeway. All we talked about after the game was how we should of called it.

[Daly]

The first clip is a classic amongst football official circles. Brent Musberger has no idea wtf was going on in the A&M game.

[tgull]

True story The name of my main fantasy team for 20+ years

“The one point safeties”

Its the rarest play in sports, more rare than an unassisted triple play.

I was inches away from calling one in a High School game but it was a blowout before halftime so we game the team some leeway. All we talked about after the game was how we should of called it.

Apparently there was almost a 1 point safety on MNF a few years ago with the Patriots. The announcers did not even acknowledge it because they had no idea themselves.

[Tellafriend]

does it make any difference that the ball was caught on the kick and then moved backwards versus it hitting some lineman and then the ground and then moved backwards?

[tgull]

Basically you block a kick on an extra point, or there is a fumble on a 2 point conversion. The defense (which is now the offense) gets the ball and runs forward then runs back into the endzone to try to move the ball forward and gets tackled in the endzone. Presumably they are trying to run the ball back 99 yards or so for a 2 point score. When they are tackled in the endzone they are technically the offense, hence the 1 point safety.

Here is the rule, NFL and college:

A 1 point safety is when the team trying to score a 2-point conversion or PAT turns the ball over, the defense takes the ball out of the end zone, then gets tackled in the end zone for a safety.

What I don't know is if this can happen on a punt, or just relegated to extra points.

[limitles]

Another piece of trivia involved O.J. His brilliance was recognized where late in his career he was awarded 8.5 points per touchdown. Look it up

[PLOL]

No joke, I used to do this trivia question with friends when I was in 8th grade

[Walter Sobchak]

Basically you block a kick on an extra point, or there is a fumble on a 2 point conversion. The defense (which is now the offense) gets the ball and runs forward then runs back into the endzone to try to move the ball forward and gets tackled in the endzone. Presumably they are trying to run the ball back 99 yards or so for a 2 point score. When they are tackled in the endzone they are technically the offense, hence the 1 point safety.

Here is the rule, NFL and college:

A 1 point safety is when the team trying to score a 2-point conversion or PAT turns the ball over, the defense takes the ball out of the end zone, then gets tackled in the end zone for a safety.

What I don't know is if this can happen on a punt, or just relegated to extra points.

It can happen on any play, but it’s only worth one point if it happens on a PAT. If it happens on a scrimmage play, including a kick, it’s just like any other safety and is worth two points.

[Tellafriend]

another interesting scenario

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[tgull]

I mentioned this to a buddy today and he was like WTF? He bets all the time and I showed him the videos, he was shocked this rule exists. He had never heard of it. Nobody really has. One day, maybe in our lifetime this will happen in an NFL game, hopefully a playoff game and people will freak out. Can you imagine a Jets game against say the Ravens in the playoffs and the Ravens win on this? The city literally would become unglued.

[Walter Sobchak]

I mentioned this to a buddy today and he was like WTF? He bets all the time and I showed him the videos, he was shocked this rule exists. He had never heard of it. Nobody really has. One day, maybe in our lifetime this will happen in an NFL game, hopefully a playoff game and people will freak out. Can you imagine a Jets game against say the Ravens in the playoffs and the Ravens win on this? The city literally would become unglued.

The flaw in your scenario is the Jets making the playoffs in our lifetimes.

[Daly]

I mentioned this to a buddy today and he was like WTF? He bets all the time and I showed him the videos, he was shocked this rule exists. He had never heard of it. Nobody really has. One day, maybe in our lifetime this will happen in an NFL game, hopefully a playoff game and people will freak out. Can you imagine a Jets game against say the Ravens in the playoffs and the Ravens win on this? The city literally would become unglued.

The flaw in your scenario is the Jets making the playoffs in our lifetimes.

My “go to” trivia question when someone from New York is fucking with me is….


How many teams are in the AFC East?

New Yorker will answer 4 Pats, Jets, fins & bills

Yes so in what place do the Jets fall for all time AFC East champions

New Yorker will answer “fuck off…. What fourth?”.

Nope

Third

Nope

Cant be first or second….

Nope - All time they are Fifth. Pats, Bills, Fins, Colts and then Jets.

A team that hasnt been in the AFC east in 20 years has more first place finishes than the jets.

[Walter Sobchak]

Here's another unusual rule not many people know. The fair catch kick.

Whenever a team fair catches the ball on a punt, they can forgo putting the ball in play from scrimmage and attempt a fair catch kick from the spot of the fair catch. If it goes through the uprights it is a field goal worth 3 points like any other field goal.

You might ask, so what? A team can try a field goal at any time. But the fair catch kick differs from a field goal attempt in several important ways. It's a free kick, not a scrimmage kick, so it's basically like a kickoff (the old style of kickoff before 2024). That means:
1. It is attempted in kickoff formation, with the defense lined up ten yards back as if it were a kickoff, not right up over the ball.
2. You don't have to snap the ball back and make the kick 8 yards longer.
3. There's no snap, so the defense can't move until the ball is kicked, so the kicker can get a running start, like on a kickoff. (But he can't use a tee.)

And one big advantage is that you can attempt one with no time left on the clock. If the half runs out on a play where you fair catch, you can extend the half for an untimed fair catch kick. In the right situation that's huge.

Fair catch kicks are attempted rarely, because for it to make sense to try one instead of putting the ball in play from scrimmage, you basically need the following conditions:
1. You fair catch a punt.
2. The spot of the fair catch is close enough to reasonably make a field goal.
3. Time expired in the half. (Otherwise if you have time you probably want to run a scrimmage play.)
4. If it's the second half, the chance for a field goal would have to make a difference in the game.

The last successfully converted fair catch kick in the NFL was in 1976. But they have been attempted more recently.

Here's a compilation of some fair catch kicks. The first one in this video actually won the game.



A couple more attempts, all failed.

[Walter Sobchak]

Here's another unusual rule not many people know. The fair catch kick.

Whenever a team fair catches the ball on a punt, they can forgo putting the ball in play from scrimmage and attempt a fair catch kick from the spot of the fair catch. If it goes through the uprights it is a field goal worth 3 points like any other field goal.

You might ask, so what? A team can try a field goal at any time. But the fair catch kick differs from a field goal attempt in several important ways. It's a free kick, not a scrimmage kick, so it's basically like a kickoff (the old style of kickoff before 2024). That means:
1. It is attempted in kickoff formation, with the defense lined up ten yards back as if it were a kickoff, not right up over the ball.
2. You don't have to snap the ball back and make the kick 8 yards longer.
3. There's no snap, so the defense can't move until the ball is kicked, so the kicker can get a running start, like on a kickoff. (But he can't use a tee.)

And one big advantage is that you can attempt one with no time left on the clock. If the half runs out on a play where you fair catch, you can extend the half for an untimed fair catch kick. In the right situation that's huge.

Fair catch kicks are attempted rarely, because for it to make sense to try one instead of putting the ball in play from scrimmage, you basically need the following conditions:
1. You fair catch a punt.
2. The spot of the fair catch is close enough to reasonably make a field goal.
3. Time expired in the half. (Otherwise if you have time you probably want to run a scrimmage play.)
4. If it's the second half, the chance for a field goal would have to make a difference in the game.

The last successfully converted fair catch kick in the NFL was in 1976. But they have been attempted more recently.

Here's a compilation of some fair catch kicks. The first one in this video actually won the game.



A couple more attempts, all failed.

This actually happened last night for the first time since 1976!