Time to get on the TRUMP train

[hutmaster]

Laura Loomer? Seriously this is the nut job you want to quote. She is such a right wing nut job that even another nut job Marjorie Taylor Greene calls her out. LMAO

[garrett]

Look at all these Trumpanzees that are so clueless that they don’t understand basic law. If you are born in the United States you are automatically considered a natural born citizen. There are some that would like to change that but as of now the law is the law. It’s all right there in the 14th amendment and lots of Supreme Court case law to affirm it.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship.

The trumpanzee strategy is just like their leaders….respond with lies and deflections. Opposition to trump doesn’t make one a Biden supporter or a libtard…..and I didn’t vote for Gavin either.

[tyde]

yea you’re right hut…

they’re all ‘nut jobs’

anyone and everyone in the country to dares align themselves with conservatism, and sides with arguably the most popular, and effective president in American history

the same guy who happens to be the odds on favorite to win back the White House in 2024…leaps and bounds ahead of the field

according to your TDS dumb ass, basically 1/2 the population who support Trump…over 80 million voters are all…

‘nut jobs’



DEAL WITH IT ^^

[mickeycrimm]

Laura Loomer? Seriously this is the nut job you want to quote. She is such a right wing nut job that even another nut job Marjorie Taylor Greene calls her out. LMAO

I don't agree with Loomer that Haley is ineligible for the presidency. But Loomer broke the story. There was no one else to quote at the time.

Loomer reported that she discovered that Nikki Haley was an anchor baby. Forget the messenger and concentrate on the message. Is the message true or not?

PS: You are a nut job for thinking MTG is a nut job.

[mickeycrimm]

trump's proposed policies are effectively guaranteed to be catastrophic.

i wonder how many people in this thread are going to be getting their tits shot off by ISIS once trump implements the draft to support his boots on the ground trip.

I'm taking a look back at the predictions made by our liberal friends on election night 2016 when it became apparent Trump was going to win. It should give us a clue as to the value of their predictions if Trump wins the 2024 election.

[tyde]

trump's proposed policies are effectively guaranteed to be catastrophic.

i wonder how many people in this thread are going to be getting their tits shot off by ISIS once trump implements the draft to support his boots on the ground trip.

I'm taking a look back at the predictions made by our liberal friends on election night 2016 when it became apparent Trump was going to win. It should give us a clue as to the value of their predictions if Trump wins the 2024 election.

[NickyPipes]

I found the menu at Trump National to be reasonably priced

The Trump Burger is a bargain

Man of the People

[hutmaster]

yea you’re right hut…

they’re all ‘nut jobs’

anyone and everyone in the country to dares align themselves with conservatism, and sides with arguably the most popular, and effective president in American history

the same guy who happens to be the odds on favorite to win back the White House in 2024…leaps and bounds ahead of the field

according to your TDS dumb ass, basically 1/2 the population who support Trump…over 80 million voters are all…

‘nut jobs’



DEAL WITH IT ^^

And right on cue, your response is to simply lie or make deflections and not actually address the issue. Do you actually read and believe the crap that you spew? Trump the most effective president in history? You want to call someone deranged then just look in the mirror.

[VaughnP]

Look at all these Trumpanzees that are so clueless that they don’t understand basic law. If you are born in the United States you are automatically considered a natural born citizen. There are some that would like to change that but as of now the law is the law. It’s all right there in the 14th amendment and lots of Supreme Court case law to affirm it.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship.

The trumpanzee strategy is just like their leaders….respond with lies and deflections. Opposition to trump doesn’t make one a Biden supporter or a libtard…..and I didn’t vote for Gavin either.

This take on the 14th amendment is parroted everywhere by people who have never looked into the facts.


This is from over 5 years ago:

I've had discussions with relatives who are German citizens about this issue. Germany is generally considered a more "progressive" country than the United States, and even their laws state that the only children born to a non-citizen parent or parents who can obtain citizenship are born to permanent German resident permit holders or parents who have been living in the country for a verifiable minimum of 8 years. And even then, to maintain citizenship they must complete a list of requirements by age 23.

The reason why I bring this up is because legal precedent in the United States is similar.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...._Wong_Kim_Ark

A child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

So even the only case that can somewhat argue the side of "land a plane here, have a baby = citizen" or "cross a river illegally, have a baby = citizen", clearly states that this right is only granted to the children of citizens or permanent residents.

Only posting the tweet screenshot because even a widely respected progressive historian/law professor went public with admitting it's a bullshit take that actually needs challenged.

[tyde]

keep swinging for the fences libtards

[Sanlmar]

I'm taking a look back at the predictions made by our liberal friends on election night 2016 when it became apparent Trump was going to win. It should give us a clue as to the value of their predictions if Trump wins the 2024 election.

I wonder if Hillary’s testosterone levels have declined with age

[big dick]

trump's proposed policies are effectively guaranteed to be catastrophic.

i wonder how many people in this thread are going to be getting their tits shot off by ISIS once trump implements the draft to support his boots on the ground trip.

I'm taking a look back at the predictions made by our liberal friends on election night 2016 when it became apparent Trump was going to win. It should give us a clue as to the value of their predictions if Trump wins the 2024 election.

and you trumppanzees have done nothing but lose since

MAGA will get rocked again in 2024 in local state and national elections

since 2016 MAGA has done noting but lose and its a fact and it isnt debatable . You losers still know what a fact is right?

[big dick]

As we head into 2024, the conventional wisdom is that Democrats are on the back foot for next year’s elections. But there are three reasons I am optimistic that 2024 is going to be a good year for Democrats:

First, President Joe Biden has kept his central promise in the 2020 election: that he would lead the nation to the other side of Covid, successfully. The pandemic has receded. Our economic recovery has been better than any other G7 nation. GDP grew at an annual rate of 4.9% last quarter, and more than 3% for the Biden presidency. We have the best job market since the 1960s and the lowest uninsured rate in U.S. history. The Dow Jones broke 37,000 this month for the first time. Wage growth, new business formation and prime-age labor participation rates are all at historically elevated levels. Prices fell — yes, fell — last month. Rents are softening, and gas prices and crime rates are falling. Domestic oil and renewable production are at record levels. The annual deficit, which exploded under Trump, is trillions less today.

Consumer sentiment has risen sharply in recent weeks, and measures of life, job and income satisfaction are remarkably high. There is no doubt that recent years have been hard — Covid, an insurrection at the Capitol, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, repeated OPEC price hikes, global and domestic inflation — but it is increasingly clear that America is getting to the other side of this challenging period, and are in a far better place than when President Biden took office.

Second, the strength of the president’s record is only matched by the strength of his party. I don’t think it is widely understood how strong the Democratic Party is right now. The party has won more votes in seven of the past eight presidential elections, something no party has done in modern American history. Over the last four presidential elections, Democrats have averaged 51% of the popular vote, their best showing over four national elections since the 1930s.

In both 2022 and 2023, Democrats prevented the historical down ballot struggle of the party in power and had two remarkably successful elections. In the 2022 midterms, Democrats’ statewide margins were greater than the 2020 presidential margins in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania — all recent battleground states. That showing led the party to pick up a Senate seat, four state legislative chambers and two governorships, and helped keep the House of Representatives close, making it far more likely Republicans lose it in 2024.


This year, Democrats flipped a Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin; defeated a six-week abortion ban in Ohio; kept the Virginia state house, debunking the idea that Republicans could hide behind a 15-week abortion ban; and took state legislative seats, municipalities and school board seats across the country. Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, a Democrat, grew his margin of victory from 2019, and Republicans lost mayoral elections in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Jacksonville, Florida, two of the largest GOP-controlled cities in the country. And in over three dozen state legislative special elections around the country, Democrats outperformed 2020 – an election we won by 4.5 percentage points — by an average of 5 percentage points.

While in 2022, Republicans could point to gains in New York and California to offset their losses in the battleground states, there were no places in 2023 where they outperformed expectations. A blue wave washed across the U.S. in 2023, and this ongoing strong performance of the Democratic Party in election after election, in all parts of the country, should fill Biden’s supporters with confidence.

Finally, while Democrats keep winning, conventional wisdom continues to overly discount Trump’s historic baggage and MAGA’s repeated electoral failures. Despite these repeated failures, Republicans are on the cusp of nominating Trump again, who this time is an even more degraded and dangerous version of MAGA than he was in 2020.

Two things have happened to Trump since 2020 that are going to make it very hard for him to win in 2024 — the stripping away of women’s reproductive rights, and his attempt to overturn the 2020 election and end American democracy for all time. Additionally, this year courts have already determined that he sexually abused journalist E. Jean Carroll in a department store; oversaw a yearslong financial fraud; and led a party-wide effort, involving hundreds of Republican leaders and thousands of willing allies, to overturn the last election, culminating in a violent attack on Congress.


Democrats will be able to argue that no one is more responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade than Trump; that his mishandling of classified documents is to blame for the most serious security breach in American history; that in concert with Russian President Vladimir Putin he will end the global liberal order that has brought America and the world unprecedented prosperity and peace; that he supports more dead kids in schools, a faster warming planet, lost health insurance for tens of millions of Americans and the end of American democracy for all time. Trump represents an unprecedented threat to the country, is even more extreme than 2020, and has, in political parlance, the highest “negatives” of any candidate perhaps in our history. It is going to be very hard for him to win next year.

For all these reasons, as we head into 2024, I am optimistic that Joe Biden and the Democrats will once again beat Donald Trump, and hopefully, this time, send MAGA into the dustbin of history where it belongs.

[cleatus]

the daily mail released a poll conducted j.l. partners of likely us voters. Use one word to describe what biden n trump wants in their 2nd term. convert answers into a word cloud and release. trump posts his word cloud on truth social. why?

biden's cloud results are nothing, economy, peace.

[tyde]

yet another swing and a miss for unhinged libtards

[big dick]

Appeals court denies case delay over Trump immunity claim in E. Jean Carroll suit
A federal appeals court on Thursday denied a request by former President Trump to pause author E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case against him while the Supreme Court considers his claim of immunity.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in New York issued a single-page denial of the appeal, two weeks after ruling that Trump cannot assert presidential immunity in the Carroll case.

Trump’s lawyers had asked for a 90-day pause in Carroll’s motion, writing “the denial of this right would upend the longstanding rule that lower courts are divested of jurisdiction for the pendency of an immunity-related appeal.”

In the earlier ruling, the Second Circuit ruled Trump had already waived immunity by failing to assert it in 2019.

Carroll alleged the former president raped her in a New York department store in the mid-1990s, a claim Trump has repeatedly denied, and sued him in 2019. A jury found the former president liable for sexual assault, battery and defamation in May and awarded her $5 million but found she had not proven rape. Carroll has since sued Trump a second time for defamation, with a federal judge already finding him liable. A trial to determine damages is set to begin Jan. 16 to determine the amount the former president owes.

Trump countersued Carroll in June for continuing to assert he raped her after the first verdict, but Judge Lewis Kaplan, the judge in both cases, dismissed the counterclaim in August.

[big dick]

Maine’s top election official removes Trump from 2024 ballot

Maine’s top election official has removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 ballot, in a surprising decision based on the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”

The decision makes Maine the second state to disqualify Trump from office, after the Colorado Supreme Court handed down its own stunning ruling that removed him from the ballot earlier this month. The development is a significant victory for Trump’s critics, who say they’re trying to enforce a constitutional provision that was designed to protect the country from anti-democratic insurrectionists.

Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, a Democrat, issued the decision Thursday after presiding over an administrative hearing earlier this month about Trump’s eligibility for office. A bipartisan group of former state lawmakers filed the challenge against Trump.

Bellows’ decision can be appealed in state court, and it’s all but assured that Trump’s side will challenge this outcome.

“I do not reach this conclusion lightly,” Bellows wrote. “Democracy is sacred … I am mindful that no Secretary of State has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment. I am also mindful, however, that no presidential candidate has ever before engaged in insurrection.”

Most legal experts believe the US Supreme Court will settle the issue for the entire country.

Still, the Maine decision builds on the momentum that Trump’s critics have claimed after the Colorado ruling. Before Colorado, several other states, like Michigan and Minnesota, rejected similar efforts.

Ratified after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment says American officials who “engage in” insurrection can’t hold future office. But the provision is vague and doesn’t say how the ban should be enforced.

Trump denies wrongdoing regarding January 6, 2021, and says the legal challenges are meritless.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/polit...lot/index.html

[Tellafriend]

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[vpbob]

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What a profoundly ignorant tweet. The impeccable legal logic for invoking the 14th Amendment is detailed in a law review article by two prominent conservative legal scholars who are eminently more qualified to opine on this matter than Mark Levin, who reveals his colors as a partisan hack. If Levin has any issues with the logic outlined by Professors William Baude and Michael Stokes he should state them. Otherwise, it's just another example of flooding the zone with shit to sway the uninformed. That is unconscionable.

[cleatus]

Home run.