**** Official Donald Trump - Kamala Harris Debate Thread **** September 10th ABC

Starting this now, because Kamala is already trying to get out of it. ABC rejected her demands of being able to be seated, allow notes, and open mics. They said, correctly so, the terms were already agreed upon. We know why she does not want to debate, she knows she will do even worse than Biden. These answers are 90 seconds a piece and she absolutely will fail. Even she knows this.

Like an event, the hype leading up to it is better than the event itself. My guess is she bails. I actually think the MSM will not give her a pass on this one given her CNN interview was a mess. She is truly a Manchurian Candidate.

She probably already has the questions to practice.

I don’t think she will have a earpiece she cannot listen and talk at the same time so nix that conspiracy

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Originally Posted by Texter

She probably already has the questions to practice.

I don’t think she will have a earpiece she cannot listen and talk at the same time so nix that conspiracy

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Lol Team Retard pre-coping, smart

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Originally Posted by tgull

Starting this now, because Kamala is already trying to get out of it. ABC rejected her demands of being able to be seated, allow notes, and open mics. They said, correctly so, the terms were already agreed upon. We know why she does not want to debate, she knows she will do even worse than Biden. These answers are 90 seconds a piece and she absolutely will fail. Even she knows this.

Like an event, the hype leading up to it is better than the event itself. My guess is she bails. I actually think the MSM will not give her a pass on this one given her CNN interview was a mess. She is truly a Manchurian Candidate.

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Not going to bother correcting the errors in your first paragraph.

The narrative that Harris will fold in a live debate is ridiculous.
Anyone who successfully passes a bar examination achieves a level of competence beyond the average.
FYI California's bar exam is rated the most difficult in the nation.

"1. California

Pass rate: 52%
Law students across the US may be familiar with the famed “impossible” California bar exam. But why is the California bar exam so hard? For starters, the cut score (the score needed to pass the test) of the California bar is 1390 out of 2000, which is 40 points above the national average."

No guarantees going forward, proficiency is "judged" by the test of time.
Advancement to District Attorney, chief prosecutor, is a clear indication of proficiency

Prosecutors, attorneys etc are not the people you should hope to debate.
They come prepared. This alone provides an advantage.
They are skilled orators. Public speaking is a requirement and with experience becomes routine.

Trump, a convicted felon, is wading into dangerous waters.
He must avoid his track record at all costs

With no teleprompter or notes he is left with hucksterism
That will fall flat in a debate focused on policy.

This debate will gather a wide audience, worldwide,
because it will be/could be the definitive stake through the heart
of a menace

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Originally Posted by Texter

She probably already has the questions to practice.

I don’t think she will have a earpiece she cannot listen and talk at the same time so nix that conspiracy

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She definitely has the questions, Donna Brazile who worked for CNN in 2016 and gave the questions to Hillary Clinton, now works for ABC, who hosts this debate. It does not matter, she was hidden by the Biden Administration for nearly 4 years for a reason. She is simply not going to be able to stand at a podium for 90 minutes without a teleprompter. I predict she will have a panic attack, if she goes through with the debate, and potentially walk off the stage. Which is precisely why I believe she will find a way out of the debate.

If she does happen to go through with the debate, if I am Trump I am staring at the side of her face every time she speaks. She will become completely unnerved and like I said she will walk off the stage. There is a reason she wants an open mic, she knows she will become unnerved and pray that Trump will interrupt her to give her a breather. I have been an MC at several events before (mostly corporate), a eulogy twice, and it's fucking hard to speak uninterrupted in front of say 100/200 people let alone the entire nation. Most people that critique people in these setting, have never done it before themselves. They are usually the loudest critics. I have seen plenty of people that just fucking choke when having to speak uninterrupted in front of others. With no teleprompter, I think Harris just dissolves in front of the nation.

Reading up on her debate history. Seems a mixed bag. Viewed as a winner of some. Tulsi got her by going to the left on her and accusing her of being too law and order.

Trump killed the large GOP field in 2020 multi candidate debates. The Hillary one was viewed as toss up.

Was viewed as loser against Biden in 2020, but it was an all around horrible debate with constant interruptions. He just was viewed as more the cause of disruptions.

The only debate he was viewed as winning decisively was against 2024 Biden when Joe didn’t know where he was.


Watched her asking questions from senate floor. In that setting, she’s quite good. I don’t know about debate. I assume people who like yelling and nonsense will view him as winner. I’m curious more in her approach. Appeal and energize the left or try to appeal to center? Seems the first is much easier, as she has no good answers when she gets asked about thr border and such. She can nail him on abortion as he’s been all over the map on that and changed his stance multiple times.

These people are so ivory tower that they sometimes miss the layups that would fracture the others base. If I were her I’d accuse him of being a nutjob who thinks the earth is flat and when he denies it and says that’s crazy, he’d lose 25% of his voters. I continue to see that idiocy every day.
I’ve actually seen the most ardent pro-Trump people who used to post pro-Trump shit all day now meme 10-1 on shit like that and chemtrails compared to him. I’d try my best to get him on record calling them crazy and denying he believes that nonsense. She basically has to debate like him. Ignore the question and just attack him and get him on record saying shit. I’d congratulate him for rushing the vaccine through clinical trials and see how he responds. Try to fracture his support.

Hard core MAGA are now obsessed with the flat earth and all other nonsense. It’s their new passion and religion. I’d do my best to get him to comment on that shit.

She’ll likely lose though. Dems still treat it like it’s an academic debate. He will treat it like a knife fight. Everyone loves a knife fight, no one watches debates on tv.

Her main problem is after getting attacked like she did from the left in 2019 debates, she seems to have went way left in her rhetoric assuming she’d some day have to go through Dem primary again. Instead she’s simply on ticket and now a lot of those positions aren’t popular. Reality is she incarcerated a whole lot of people, but has spent the next years after getting called on it making silly statements with the future in mind that sound radical left and won’t play well in regards to policing and law and order. She also has a lot of left economic policy that doesn’t play well from her California days.


This is why you don’t put California Dems on top of ticket.

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Watched her asking questions from senate floor. In that setting, she’s quite good.

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Anyone would be good literally in that setting. It's easy to be a "prosecutor" in that setting. But that is not this format. I am speaking from personal experience having to stand up in front of 100 - 200 people and fill multi minute blocks with obviously no teleprompter. It's hard, everyone staring at you, some wanting you to have a trainwreck moment just because they want to see it. Anyone can volley back and forth with one liners that is easy, but in the debate, Kamala is going to have to fill up 90 second answers multiple times in front of the world, not 100-200 people, it will get into her mind real quick. It's why Trump wants mics off. Partly to protect himself, but more because he knows what we all know, she will crater and spiral out of control. I have no doubt very early on in the debate you will see her highly nervous laugh and it's not because she thinks something is funny. If I am Trump the first nervous laugh she has, when it gets back to his time, he simply says "I don't see what is so funny". And then its in her mind and she will continue to have Tourette Syndrome behavior and it will be a never ending political commercial from that point on.

The Republican nominee George W. Trump is on FOX News telling a bunch of lies to get us in another disastrous war for Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULimTa8byBg
Remember when he ran against lying America into wars. Just like FDR ran against sending Americans to go fight a war in Europe and Woodrow Wilson did the same.


Here's the difference between Trump and Kamala, do you want billionaires to get trillions in tax cuts?
Both candidates will deliver on a treasonous war for Israel and maintain an open border policy?

That's the only difference.,

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Originally Posted by Texter

She probably already has the questions to practice.

I don’t think she will have a earpiece she cannot listen and talk at the same time so nix that conspiracy

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Lol Team Retard pre-coping, smart

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I’m guessing you didn’t see the softball CNN interview she couldn’t handle.

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Lol Team Retard pre-coping, smart

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I’m guessing you didn’t see the softball CNN interview she couldn’t handle.

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that wasn't an interview. it was a pre-written and screened commercial for their candidate.

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Originally Posted by tgull

I have no doubt very early on in the debate you will see her highly nervous laugh and it's not because she thinks something is funny. If I am Trump the first nervous laugh she has, when it gets back to his time, he simply says "I don't see what is so funny". And then its in her mind and she will continue to have Tourette Syndrome behavior and it will be a never ending political commercial from that point on.

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that's really an excellent idea; too bad you can't pass it along.

Public speakers who can genuinely stir emotions are somewhat rare. Since the age of broadcasting, the most notable
in this category, are the likes of Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, Martin Luther King etc. Most of the historic speeches on record were written and rehearsed. What is remembered however is the conviction behind the words.

Kamala Harris has that vibe. There is a passion when she speaks.

Trump doesn't have that.

This debate will not determine the election results.
It's already been decided.

So funny that MAGA, realizing they have lost,
suggest the debate questions are being handed to Harris.

The topic everyone knows will be addressed is Roe V. Wade.
Trump's crowning achievement according to him.

Drop the mic time for Kamala unless
the convicted felon wants to speak about crime
Someone convicted on many counts of fraud is by definition
a cheat and liar. No need to name call

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Originally Posted by limitles

Public speakers who can genuinely stir emotions are somewhat rare. Since the age of broadcasting, the most notable
in this category, are the likes of Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, Martin Luther King etc. Most of the historic speeches on record were written and rehearsed. What is remembered however is the conviction behind the words.

Kamala Harris has that vibe. There is a passion when she speaks.

Trump doesn't have that.

This debate will not determine the election results.
It's already been decided.

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Actually this is your first well thought out post in a really long time. You are correct in the fact a debate here or there does not matter. In this case it does. You have a political candidate in Harris who embarrassed herself in 2019 and dropped out of the race when she did so awful she just walked away. Her candidacy was the biggest flop in the last 20 years, she could not even make it to the first primary. She effectively imploded. This was after she dominated fundraising for months.

Then as VP the Biden Administration just ignored her. She bombed so badly her first year they just cut their losses and you really never heard from her again.

She is going to have to sell a few hundred thousand people nationwide she is the right person for the job. Based on what I have seen from her over the years, unscripted, she will fail and fail badly. There was a reason why she was ghosted for the last 3.5 years. There is also a reason why she is prepping for 10 days in advance of the debate. That leads me to believe she is terrified of this format because she generally gets nervous and starts to laugh. It's a form of Tourettes Syndrome and I think the moment will overwhelm her.

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Originally Posted by limitles

Public speakers who can genuinely stir emotions are somewhat rare. Since the age of broadcasting, the most notable
in this category, are the likes of Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, Martin Luther King etc. Most of the historic speeches on record were written and rehearsed. What is remembered however is the conviction behind the words.

Kamala Harris has that vibe. There is a passion when she speaks.

Trump doesn't have that.

This debate will not determine the election results.
It's already been decided.

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Actually this is your first well thought out post in a really long time. You are correct in the fact a debate here or there does not matter. In this case it does. You have a political candidate in Harris who embarrassed herself in 2019 and dropped out of the race when she did so awful she just walked away. Her candidacy was the biggest flop in the last 20 years, she could not even make it to the first primary. She effectively imploded. This was after she dominated fundraising for months.

Then as VP the Biden Administration just ignored her. She bombed so badly her first year they just cut their losses and you really never heard from her again.

She is going to have to sell a few hundred thousand people nationwide she is the right person for the job. Based on what I have seen from her over the years, unscripted, she will fail and fail badly. There was a reason why she was ghosted for the last 3.5 years. There is also a reason why she is prepping for 10 days in advance of the debate. That leads me to believe she is terrified of this format because she generally gets nervous and starts to laugh. It's a form of Tourettes Syndrome and I think the moment will overwhelm her.

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You didn't read my last edit.
Prosecutor vs. convicted criminal.
Abortion

Harris can and does speak to both issues daily. America prides itself on freedom of choice. Donald Trump was instrumental in taking away the reproductive rights of women in your country. His disregard for women is also on record. Felony sexual assault convictions for one.

If "the tough on crime" topic is presented it's a layup for Harris simply by reminding
the viewers of Trump's recent convictions

Border topic? National security? Only one candidate stole classified documents from the White House.
Only one candidate considers himself a friend of brutal dictators.
All questions, all topics, are loaded and waiting.

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Originally Posted by limitles

Public speakers who can genuinely stir emotions are somewhat rare. Since the age of broadcasting, the most notable
in this category, are the likes of Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, Martin Luther King etc. Most of the historic speeches on record were written and rehearsed. What is remembered however is the conviction behind the words.

Kamala Harris has that vibe. There is a passion when she speaks.

Trump doesn't have that.

This debate will not determine the election results.
It's already been decided.

So funny that MAGA, realizing they have lost,
suggest the debate questions are being handed to Harris.


The topic everyone knows will be addressed is Roe V. Wade.
Trump's crowning achievement according to him.

Drop the mic time for Kamala unless
the convicted felon wants to speak about crime
Someone convicted on many counts of fraud is by definition
a cheat and liar. No need to name call

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you're as drunk as Scamala and Nancy Pelosi combined, you're probably really close to a self induced alcohol coma...

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/18...EENLDqSWyJ3hng

https://x.com/wallstreetsilv/status/...EENLDqSWyJ3hng

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Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar

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Originally Posted by limitles

Public speakers who can genuinely stir emotions are somewhat rare. Since the age of broadcasting, the most notable
in this category, are the likes of Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, Martin Luther King etc. Most of the historic speeches on record were written and rehearsed. What is remembered however is the conviction behind the words.

Kamala Harris has that vibe. There is a passion when she speaks.

Trump doesn't have that.

This debate will not determine the election results.
It's already been decided.

So funny that MAGA, realizing they have lost,
suggest the debate questions are being handed to Harris.


The topic everyone knows will be addressed is Roe V. Wade.
Trump's crowning achievement according to him.

Drop the mic time for Kamala unless
the convicted felon wants to speak about crime
Someone convicted on many counts of fraud is by definition
a cheat and liar. No need to name call

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you're as drunk as Scamala and Nancy Pelosi combined, you're probably really close to a self induced alcohol coma...

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This is the mindset of a MAGA supporter. Literally unable to speak /debate an issue.
This forum is dominated by such members but does not reflect the general public.

I presented the issue of abortion and the rights of women that have been taken away via political influence.

I presented the issue of criminality and the potential election of a criminal.
Both are facts

You posted nothing in response

This thread, a tgull special, is about the debate.
Right out of the gate MAGA members say the fix is in.
As if the most important issues are unknown or ABC is
conspiring to undo Trump.

If it's true then it still works out. A millionaire, narcissist, convicted felon is done.

Do you remember back in 2016 Trump appearing almost everyday on CNN before he won the republican primary. Then after that he was on Fox almost everyday. I seen him a gillion times answering hardball questions.

Then when he was in office he was always answering questions from the press. Do you remember all those times he was walking to the helicopter and stopped to answer questions. Hardball questions too. Trump has a ton of experience dealing with reporters that ask gotcha questions.

Meanwhile, Kamala hides from the press. She's scared shitless. She's never had to answer a single gotcha question. And they won't ask her one in the debate but she is still scared shitless.

Anyone that thinks Kamala will out perform Trump in the upcoming debate is stupid times 29.

Here is what Kamala will be facing:

https://youtu.be/RogUJp69YE4

#SeenDrunk Tgull

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Originally Posted by limitles

Public speakers who can genuinely stir emotions are somewhat rare. Since the age of broadcasting, the most notable
in this category, are the likes of Churchill, FDR, Kennedy, Martin Luther King etc. Most of the historic speeches on record were written and rehearsed. What is remembered however is the conviction behind the words.

Kamala Harris has that vibe. There is a passion when she speaks.

Trump doesn't have that.

This debate will not determine the election results.
It's already been decided.

So funny that MAGA, realizing they have lost,
suggest the debate questions are being handed to Harris.

The topic everyone knows will be addressed is Roe V. Wade.
Trump's crowning achievement according to him.

Drop the mic time for Kamala unless
the convicted felon wants to speak about crime
Someone convicted on many counts of fraud is by definition
a cheat and liar. No need to name call

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Donna Brazille got caught when she gave Hillary the questions, you think they won’t do whatever it takes to win this time?

You dog faced pony soldier.