PROJEKT:SEP **SCAM** (Rolled: A Jasep Saga)

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Originally Posted by adamantium

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Originally Posted by 4BET

I feel like their should be a response from 4Bet in this thread, O never mind

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Please just STFU with your moronic jasep issues.

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:lol2

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Originally Posted by DRK Star

I would just like to chime in here with some information that might be beneficial to many of us here at PFA. While I dont personally know Jasep, or have any involvement of his buy a piece program, I do know a few things about personal grooming. I believe in taking care of myself and follow a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.

I hope this helps.

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Handsome James is smiling in heaven

Enjoy it Mr. Anal.... you've earned it.... Bravo sir

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Originally Posted by anonamoose

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac

Online Poker is better than live poker by a far stretch the majority of the time IMO. Even the great Doyle Brunson who played live his entire life posted about a million reasons why online is better.

when you're sitting at a poker table you can sit there watch and listen to music maybe.
You can do this online as well

when you're online you're either playing a zillion games and incapable of concentrating on all


Playing a lot of games is good. You can play enough hands in short periods of time to avoid long downswings that occur live because at best you can only get in a little over 1,000 hands a week live on a 40 hr shift. Maybe 1500 with the right dealers and players playing quick. Online you can get that action in 1 hr. If you are playing too many games then you should close the extra tables.


of them or you're off im'ing someone and doing this and that online.
Then shut off your IM!

Live poker you get small comps, online you get bonuses and rakeback

Live poker you are seated in the game they put you in. Online you can table and site hop all day.

You can watch lobbies all day long and only play good games if you really wanted to online on a $40 internet bill 24-7. Live poker you have to travel to the casino every day and use gas money which adds up fast.

Rake is better online for the most part and you don't have to tip dealers.



2 good things about live poker. If you are a reg in big enough games where you are the best or one of the best I am sure you can make a decent living but at the same time you could just hit variance for a year live and break even. Very rarely will you see a consistent winning online cash player break even or even have a losing year if they are doing things correctly .


Live poker you can get you cash right at the window when you leave. Online it is more difficult to get paid but in my 10 years of online poker I have never been stiffed by a site. Actually 2 of the 3 U.S. sites right now you can cash out in less than 7 days which is good.

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it's a lot easier to do what you say when you're in a situation designated for that. not everyone can just plop down on the sidewalk and fall asleep regularly because it's not a place you normally sleep. online may be better for the terms you speak of, but like i said in this case

i have habits of when i'm on a computer of doing this and that and i have habits of sitting at a poker table in almost a sense of meditation dedicated to poker that i can't achieve playing on a computer. it's just not a mental state i can hit on a computer.

this type of stuff isn't uncommon and can be seen in a variety of every day type items. some people can't wake up without coffee and it ruins their whole day. some people are extremely smart and can take what they learn in a class and put it to use further than anyone else, but couldn't pass a test if their life depended on it. some people are extremely smart and ace every exam but are incapable of putting that knowledge to a practical use.

why is this any different?

yeah there is added expenses but what the hell does that matter when you make a profit using one method vs another you can't make a profit on? when i have a bad beat at a poker room i stand up walk away for a minute talk to some people and come back. i can't do that online it's just not the same.

i also rely strongly on observing people. yeah i know betting patterns and know how to pick off a lot of bluffs using it (and this is probably my one strong point online), but i'm consistently better at it in person when i can see how a person reacts after placing a bet vs just the numbers popping up on the screen.

also when i'm online the multi tabling into games i probably shouldn't be playing just because i find them "fun" occurs constantly too. it's an impulse after i start winning so much and it's not something i've been able to shake. online i can play pretty conservative until i'm up several thousand and then it all starts to go down the drain. it's just my train of thought.

when i'm sitting at one game on one table irl it doesn't matter if i have 1 dollar or 10000 in front of me, i'm concentrating purely on the people in the game and how to get their money.

am i a bad online poker player, yes because i don't have the discipline to do it, and i probably never will. am i a bad poker player, no i don't believe i am.

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I honestly didn't even read this. But seeing who posted it and how long it is, I'm sure there is some lol in it.

:lol2

azzclown single-handedly exposed 95% of this forum. unreal.

Druff you may want to re-think the theme of this site.

Hershiser was spot on all along.

I feel bad Tony B got blown up in all this.

I go back to the fact China and Druff never participated in the BAP. I remember seeing the list of "investors" and wondered why either did not participate.

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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

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Originally Posted by Mad Dad

I am an investor. I did not inherit the money I invested, I earned it the hard way by good decisions and sound investments in the past. I do not have a trust issue with anyone. The suggestion that investors somehow didn't know they were placing trust in Jasep is pretty goofy - from my perspective. Whether the investors made a wise or profitable decision or not will only be known in the future - there is no way to really know until Projekt:Sep is over. Speculation and commenting was and is an expected part of the Projekt:Sep, but I think the focussing on trust that has gone on recently on this board is way over board. It should be obvious to anyone that trust was being placed in Jasep by the investors and I don't know what more needs to be said than that. I haven't really paid attention if any actual investor is complaining in this thread. In any case, I don't think this thread would be the way to complain to Jasep if an investor had a complaint. It seems to me that this thread recently has gone completely to shit. I don't think that is good for Druff, Jasep or the investors.

I think Projekt:Sep is an interesting idea and I continue to support the idea and Jasep as Projekt:Sep continues.

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:this
None of this "noise" is coming from the investors/backers. That's all that really needs to be said.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

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None of this "noise" is coming from the investors/backers. That's all that really needs to be said.

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i hope you realize that the majority of your arguments were based off of meaningless conjecture. the outcome would have been the same with or without you, and would have only been detrimental if your out of control drivel about items were exactly as they appear, unrelated to the circumstances at hand.

but it's ok that PLOL stole 1100 from pstars.

:lol2

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Originally Posted by El Gallo

Enjoy it Mr. Anal.... you've earned it.... Bravo sir

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Yes he has and their would be 1000 more of these if i could have posted with out the threat of being banned

Brandon on radio now.

I would also like to say that while I was probably one of the first to pick up on this and voice my opinions (screamed fminc and Peterdc), this was by no means a lone effort. A vast portion of material that I posted were things passed onto me by fellow users. All these people have chosen to remain anonymous for whatever reason. Anyone who wants to take credit for anything I posted is more than welcome to do so. I would say all this info came from more than 10 or so active, well known members.

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Originally Posted by 4BET

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Originally Posted by El Gallo

Enjoy it Mr. Anal.... you've earned it.... Bravo sir

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Yes he has and their would be 1000 more of these if i could have posted with out the threat of being banned

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do tell

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Originally Posted by Sandwich

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Originally Posted by Cokehead

BTW just to let u know, a few of your investors have sent me private messages and told me to keep pressing with these Qs cuz they are nervous. They said they would rather I do it than them because you are holding their $$$ and dont want to piss u off. So in case you think I am just some asshole or troll starting shit, Im really not.

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LOL, "a few of [his] investors"?
WHO?
Why don't they ask him themselves, publicly or privately? He's given investors multiple ways to contact him.

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You really are a clueless fucking idiot.

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Originally Posted by handicapme

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Originally Posted by Cokehead

Jasep thanks for answering the above. If you dont mind can you please answer a few more questions-

1. You said you would pay out every Thursday night. The first week you did not do that and made some excuse, then said you played Friday and lost most of that weeks profits. That was huge red flag #1 to me. Can you explain why you didnt just pay out Thursday like you said?

2. I dont think your private life is any of our business but Im sorry, I just dont believe you accepted a convction for something you didnt do, just so you could have less friction with your daughters mom. I think it would be better if you just told us the truth and that you made a mistake.

3. Can you do anything to prove you still have the $$$ people invested? I think your critics here believe you took the money and spent it on other things and are just playing with a minimal roll and are pretending to have 5k behind.

4. Can you explain why you waited so long between collecting the $$$ and starting to play? It looks like you purposely put a large gap of time in between. I have been a member of the staking community for many years (even posted on neverbeg in the past lol) and Ive never seen such a thing.

BTW just to let u know, a few of your investors have sent me private messages and told me to keep pressing with these Qs cuz they are nervous. They said they would rather I do it than them because you are holding their $$$ and dont want to piss u off. So in case you think I am just some asshole or troll starting shit, Im really not.

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Seriously STFU. If his investors have been sending you private messages asking you to press him, they should just message him privately. I had one question that I took up privately and he answered it fully. I suggest that any other investor do the same, but I highly doubt anyone has contacted you saying this. Fuck off, you're just trying to start up shit again. Stay out of it.

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Originally Posted by The_PHA

Hershiser was spot on all along.

I feel bad Tony B got blown up in all this.

I go back to the fact China and Druff never participated in the BAP. I remember seeing the list of "investors" and wondered why either did not participate.

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Appreciate the sentiment bro, but no bad feelings necessary. I went in with eyes open and props to Azzy for having this snuffed out. I've been duped twice now and am taking my lumps like a man because I deserve to for being as my man Sonatine put it....

COUNTRY FUCKING STUPID

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Originally Posted by Mad Dad

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Originally Posted by limitles

Now that’s a real Poker Fraud Alert.

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There is nothing new here, it is known by anyone that cares and needs to know, and yet - somehow it needs and is allowed to be repeated - especially after Jasep has just answered concerns ? This is not a Poker Fraud Alert - what this is - is shit and if that is what this site is about, I will probably not post any more (not that anybody cares) and will likely not come by very much (again not that anybody cares). I suggest other decent people consider doing the same. This site cannot exist without reasonable moderation and continue to fulfil its stated mission. Druff - take note. Life is much too short and far to good to live in this way. I have much better things to do than see decent people, albeit not saints, that may have made mistake in their lives, attacked by ass holes. We should collectively be ashamed of ourselves if we allow and condone this kind of behaviour. Without any way to change the behaviour in the community, the only course for me is to withdraw from the community. Life is supposed to be about enjoyment and getting along and sharing in life's struggles and not trashing people in your own community. It is one thing to give some good natured ribbing. It is something else to use people's names and smear them repeatedly. What is being done here is a mile over the line.

I continue to support Projekt:Sep for what it is on the surface - a minor league poker player trying to make a living playing poker over a period of time and chronicling the adventure. If that isn't good enough for you - then I suggest you go stick your head up your ass since that is what you seem to enjoy - living in a world full of shit.

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:lol2

How did you ever manage to survive to breeding age?

I love it

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by pikachar

Wow what the fuck is wrong with you people?? Can't you see this is a you problem not an us problem...

The dude pays his BAP's

100% satisfied

Case closed?

-Discuss-

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Nuthugger.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by Mad Dad

There is nothing new here, it is known by anyone that cares and needs to know, and yet - somehow it needs and is allowed to be repeated - especially after Jasep has just answered concerns ? This is not a Poker Fraud Alert - what this is - is shit and if that is what this site is about, I will probably not post any more (not that anybody cares) and will likely not come by very much (again not that anybody cares). I suggest other decent people consider doing the same. This site cannot exist without reasonable moderation and continue to fulfil its stated mission. Druff - take note. Life is much too short and far to good to live in this way. I have much better things to do than see decent people, albeit not saints, that may have made mistake in their lives, attacked by ass holes. We should collectively be ashamed of ourselves if we allow and condone this kind of behaviour. Without any way to change the behaviour in the community, the only course for me is to withdraw from the community. Life is supposed to be about enjoyment and getting along and sharing in life's struggles and not trashing people in your own community. It is one thing to give some good natured ribbing. It is something else to use people's names and smear them repeatedly. What is being done here is a mile over the line.

I continue to support Projekt:Sep for what it is on the surface - a minor league poker player trying to make a living playing poker over a period of time and chronicling the adventure. If that isn't good enough for you - then I suggest you go stick your head up your ass since that is what you seem to enjoy - living in a world full of shit.

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Pop a few of these until your monthly "visitor" is gone-



You aren't posting what 500 other people haven't already said. If this place hurts your sensitive feelings, fuck off. That's what the previous 499 did. You'll be forgotten before this thread makes it off the front page, as would anyone else.

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I hope you picked some of these up.

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Originally Posted by zealanddonk

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

Nuthugger.

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:lol2

Doesn't the ? after "case closed" explain it?