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https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...l=1#post737500
7 years ago.
7.
And S&P Global cut the rating in 2011.
Return since then?
Average annual return of 12.2% on the 500.
You get off this shit dreaming of the markets dropping and everyone having to sit around and eat chili to survive.
Your hatred of success is very telling. It’s an old act.
one way to visualize what will likely start happening at 6pm on sunday; after the aug 1 2023 downgrade from fitch, 90 days later america was worth like 10% less than it was at market close on july 31.
sell every single rip for the next 3 months.
We're good for it.
I admit, I’m not so knowledgeable in this area, but I always remind myself that the federal financial parts are large and move slow. So, over time, the corrections will happen and those moving parts will stabilize and improve.
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Originally Posted by desertrunner
That image might be optimistic. And that’s not a commentary on Trump, but he hasn’t helped. These ratings are far more optimistic than reality. This is one of those be happy you are over 50 moments, which are rare.
https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/1923556198701244503
one of trumps retard kids is going to start an 'alternate ratings agency' and rate the US credit rating quadruple A and somehow they are going to be named the 'official ratings agency of the greatest nation on earth the united states' and also somehow offer a shitcoin on pumpfun called AAAA.
Qatar and Saudi Arabia are our new China. They’ll buy our debt like they are buying everything else regardless of rating. Praise be to AllahQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
QE was god. QE gonna make a comeback tooQuote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Inflationary deleveraging for the win
there are people who have been in this business for 5 decades saying this is the begin of a mean reversion bear swing thats been promised since 1995.
Simpler times for US bonds
https://youtu.be/jqE5-20mtu4?si=fCqjFKxyRLzlNq5v
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Originally Posted by BCRQatar and Saudi Arabia are our new China. They’ll buy our debt like they are buying everything else regardless of rating. Praise be to AllahQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Bessent speaks of our new overlords
During an appearance on Sunday morning’s Meet The Press, Bessent said that the real evidence of America’s economic reputation is evidenced by the recent investment deals signed by President Trump.
“If we go back to your initial question on the Moody’s downgrade, who cares? Qatar doesn’t. Saudi doesn’t. UAE doesn’t. They’re all pushing money in.”
we will know in the next 12 hours whether or not this guts us fast or slow.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
I’ll be surprised if it moves the needle much in the short term, but that’s just a guess. How the world views that in a macro sense is beyond my depth.
I mean Japan or China is one thing, but half our debt is from our stupid wars to fight “terrorists “ financed by the guys that are now loaning us money to pay for it. Praise be to Allah
I can go slow, if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
the wildcards here are QE and of course trump doing a presser to say he just had an incredibly productive talk with china etc etc.
short of that, historically speaking we can expect a 2% move.. using the qqq options tree from friday close, the 508 put pays out 50 to 1 at the end of the day if that happens.
Symbol: QQQ250519P00508000
Strike: 508
Side: put
Cost: 0.11
Projected Value: 6
Profit: 5.89
ROI: 5614.29%
Volume: 2472
ill have to look at the options chain again at around 9:32am est tomorrow to know whats actually in play but if you want to flip $100 into a million by friday, this might be the week for it.
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Originally Posted by BCR
how much of the total us debt does the federal reserve own?
AI Overview
The Federal Reserve holds approximately $4.7 trillion of the US national debt, which is about 20% of the debt held by the public. According to Reuters, the Federal Reserve system holds $4.7 trillion in US debt. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget reports that the Federal Reserve holds about $5.0 trillion, not including debt held under repurchase agreements.
futes dont seem to give a fuck about any of this but we also saw this happen in 2023 with fitch, where everything was in nothingburger mode until the US market opened in the morning.